POLL: How Trump Leaves WH

[Equinox Moon]

Would he step down before 2020? He would lose his power to pardon, friends, family, or the outrageousness of pardoning himself. Plus, the presidency is protecting him from indictment. The good news is, he will be gone one day.

114 votes, 2 passes | Time left: Unlimited
	Trump steps down before 2020
	33 (29%)
	Impeachment & Removal (house and senate)
	3 (3%)
	His health takes him down before 2020
	15 (13%)
	Republicans insist he steps down
	15 (13%)
	25th Amendment gets enacted
	0 (0%)
	He is voted out in 2020
	43 (38%)
	Other: state in comments
	5 (4%)
	2 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[Delmette2.0]

1. He always looks to blame someone or something.

I think he will fake a health crisis to get out of office and to get out of being prosecuted.

[Geechie]

15. Likely

I saw a report on here about a week ago, saying that his lawyers were building a case for his being physically unable to carry on his duties. I think mental would be more likely ...

[Delmette2.0]

24. Claiming a stroke would cover both physical and mental.

[Geechie]

75. Hey, if it gets him out of OUR house,

I'm cool with it. He's probably got a vial of polonium with his name on it if he ever broke "character."

[Delmette2.0]

76. Yes, just get out of our house.

[llmart]

49. I agree and that would have been my answer.

I think he's already working on the performance he will put on. He is probably thinking that faking illness would at least garner him some sympathy, though I doubt it would. I'm still wondering why the false show of "love" and concern Melania showed him when she did that pat on the head and held his hand. Was that part of the onset of the performance? I don't know.

[Duppers]

54. His offsprings will be charged with crimes.

If he leaves, he forfeits the pardons...unless he takes care of them before leaving.

[spinbaby]

2. KFC will take him out

He’s a heart attack waiting to happen.

[Freddie]

7. Wish I could be so optimistic

Unfortunately he has good genes on his side, I think his dad lived to 93.
I think the only way to get rid of him is by the power of the vote. That’s why we have to be extremely careful to pick a candidate who with wide appeal who can ***win***.

[LeftInTX]

72. It will make him a martyr.

[Pholus]

3. He rage quits.

The "grownups" around him will say he needs to spend time rebuilding his business after he gave SO much good stuff to the unappreciative fools.

Then he moves to Dubai.

[Scarsdale]

33. He HAS to be removed.

Taxpayers should not be trapped paying a pension, plus perks to this useless blob. His family has spent more than enough taxpayers money so far, on business trips etc. They all need to be SHAMED, not allowed to quietly exit of their own accord.

[Rhiannon12866]

89. +1000!

[Equinox Moon]

4. When he was elected Witches cast spells on him (yes, this actually happened)

Maybe, their spells come to fruition.

[JudyM]

28. This would be lovely. Keep it coming.

[Scarsdale]

37. Well, he was already one

repulsive SOB, so it was not his looks they cast a spell on. He has gained lots of weight acquired a few chins, too. He most certainly has not learned anything, or even tried to educate himself on the job. Waste of (considerable) space.

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

41. There is a DU group that often promotes Binding Spells

[Codeine]

78. Fucking LARPers. nt

[calimary]

97. And he'll be ensnared by the "WITCH HUNT!!!"

Actually, I often fantasize about him being dragged out of there by the armpits by two big beefy Capitol Hill police or Secret Service, kicking and yowling while the White House staffers flee in panic or try to hide under their desks - mass hysteria and noise and crowds gathering to cheer and hold up big block-lettered “TRAITOR!” signs and chant “Lock Him Up!” And of course additional crowds of reporters, camera crews, and paparazzi yelling questions about treason and Russian sympathizers and whether Putin’s going to intervene again this time and when Melania is going to file for divorce!

I can dream, can’t I?

[democratisphere]

5. drumpf lawyers will attempt an insanity underage minor's defense

but eventually he will be tried as an adult and convicted!

[JDC]

6. "Early Alzheimer's" will be his excuse and parting defense.

[Joe941]

8. I said voted out in 2020 but...

I think he just wont run to reelection.

[Equinox Moon]

9. Ohhhhh...Clever. This is an option I had not considered.

He has never stopped raising money for re-election and will walk away to keep it. Hmmmm...

[onenote]

10. +1

[elocs]

11. Trump will declare his presidency the greatest and most beautiful in history

and choose not to run for reelection because he will claim there is a massive conspiracy by Liberals and the media to bring him down and he is certain there will be massive voter fraud with millions of illegals voting for the Democratic candidate.

[Equinox Moon]

20. I think this might be the most likely thing to happen, IF...

none of the other ones get him first.

[Shrike47]

27. Sounds about right. And he'll believe it.

[Duppers]

57. That's it!

You've nailed it.

[eppur_se_muova]

60. Maybe like this ...

http://www.simpsonsworld.com/video/276994115834

start the action at 12:26

[bdjhawk]

90. I voted "other"

For this reason (won’t run again).

[Garrett78]

93. By jove, I think you've got it. No embarrassment of a loss or resignation.

He can just decline to run again.

But, if he resigns, Pence can pardon him.

[Sneederbunk]

12. On a rail.

[hlthe2b]

13. NOT FAST ENOUGH...

the one choice we could all agree on...

[Andy823]

14. I really don't care

Just as long as he leaves, and can do no more harm to this country!

[H2O Man]

16. Recommended.

Trump will step down before the 2020 election season.

[Quixote1818]

19. I agree. If he thinks he has no chance of winning he will NEVER allow himself to be voted out.

The only hitch is no matter how bad it looks for him his ego is so huge he may still think he can win, even with the economy in the tank.

[WinstonSmith4740]

46. And when he loses...

He'll just not accept the results, which he threatened to do in 2016. But this time he'll have the power of the office between the election and when Beto O'Rourke is sworn in (I can dream, can't I? ), and try to declare himself "President for Life." Actually, that scenario just brought on a vision of him being dragged out of the White House in handcuffs. It was wonderful.

But I think he will run for the reasons you stated. His ego would never let him accept that he could lose.

[Quixote1818]

17. If he thinks he will lose I guarantee you he will step down and declare America Great again

With the economy about to go to the shitter and everything ele this is looking more and more likely.

[Equinox Moon]

21. Or, just not run in 2020 and

takes his election campaign money he has raised for 4 years.

[Quixote1818]

88. Actually you have it correct. nt

[Geechie]

18. Call me old fashioned, but

Whatever happened to good old tar and feathers, run out of town on a rail?

[TheBlackAdder]

22. Trump and family fly to Russia, on a State visit and never return. He never resigns either.

[Equinox Moon]

23. Ohhhh... this is good too.

[milestogo]

25. OTHER: Kicking and Screaming "Witch Hunt"

[Oneironaut]

26. Imo, there is virtually no chance Trump is removed from office.

I’m not even sure Nixon would have been. Trump may lose in 2020 - depends on the economy.

[watoos]

34. You may be right, if Trump wants a second term.

[Codeine]

79. Agreed. nt

[yowzayowzayowza]

29. I've thought he'd pull a Palin since the day he was elected. n/t

[watoos]

38. I agree but,

it all depends on whether Pence remains in office. Trump is going to need a lot of pardons for him and his crime family. Remember, he is a narcissist.

[Duppers]

58. Would Pence runs in Trump's place in 2020?

Don't think he'd have much of a chance with all the provable stink on him.

[Efilroft Sul]

30. Other: Feet first, and not by natural causes

He's served his purpose.

[tavernier]

87. Yeah, this.

I’m surprised it hasn’t happened already.

[gopiscrap]

31. he wins 2020 by cheating

just to show the American people he can do it, and then steps down because of "health reasons"

[KCDebbie]

32. Why is "In Pieces" not one of the choices?

Just saying...

[bitterross]

35. I beleive the best option is the 2020 election

If he leaves early and Pence replaces him, then he gets pardoned like Nixon was. After he's out of office, then the prosecutors do not have to hold back on indicting him.

I do think impeachment and removal from office is the appropriate thing to happen to him. I just don't believe the Senate GOP will vote to convict. They've proven they are too afraid of his cult. I don't really think that's going to change with the evidence Mueller has. His cult, and more, felt it was perfectly fine for him to not pay taxes. They thought it made him a great business man because he figured out how to dodge the IRS. So their anger will not be roused by financial crimes. They've already started thanking Putin for getting him elected. So they're not going to be angry about the obvious conspiracy to get him elected.

A very large part of America will say "yep, he cheated and broke the law - so what?" Seriously, they won't care. They hate Hillary and the idea of her being President THAT much.

[Polybius]

36. No option for 2024?

I think he'll lose in 2020, but I would be very curious to have seen how many picked that option. I know some who think he'll steal that one too.

[watoos]

39. What about the possibility

that Kasich primaries him and beats him out? Is that even permissible?

[Polybius]

48. That's even less likely because Kasich is now hated by the right

There is no way he could beat Trump in the primaries. He couldn't even beat Cruz if they both run in 2024.

[LeftInTX]

71. If we can keep all the states we won and take back WI, MI and PA we will win. 273 EVs

It all depends on how voters in those states feel and how robust his campaigning is.

We talk alot about Trump's health issues here on DU. But what we see isn't always what we get.
He also is very prone to gaffes...like not reciting the Apostle's Creed. (Bull in the china shop stuff)
He also picked horrible staff and then fires them. This is stuff the general public notices.


I haven't been following his recent rallies. (TX, MO, GA etc)
If he needs to show up in a golf cart etc, then it will hurt his re-election chances.

I also think people voted for Trump cuz they wanted "something different". Voters can be fickle.

[andym]

40. Trump's not going anywhere until at least 2020

No matter what he's done--it's going to be "witch hunt" and "fake news" 24/7 from Trump, Fox News, and GOP pols. McConnell would never allow the Senate to convict him if he is impeached. If Mueller's got the goods on him, he'll have to run in 2020 to stay out of jail. Hopefully, the Rust Belt states will toss him out.

[Coffeegirl]

56. I think I agree with you.

He'll stay right where he is, just as long as he can.

[Marrah_Goodman]

42. In a straight jacket

[yuiyoshida]

43. Why CAN'T IT BE TAR AND FEATHERED...WITH rotten tomatoes thrown in?

[Soxfan58]

44. I say his health

Whether its real or made up I don't know. Then he can become some sort of Martyr to his deranged followers. And with the words " this fake witch hunt caused me to get sick from stress" we have a substantial uptick in violence on our hands.

[cstanleytech]

45. He is to arrogant with delusions of grandeur to step down and the Repugnants in the

House and Senate are to corrupt to impeach him and then convict him so the odds are he will stay in office until we vote him out in 2020.

[oberliner]

47. Wins a second term, leaves office in 2024

I know we all want to do everything we can do to prevent that from happening, but it seems at least as likely as some of the listed options, unfortunately.

[LeftInTX]

70. It depends on who we have on the ticket

And how much "energy" Trump has.

When he's in official duty, he's "off"...(we also tend to overemphasize his issues)

I haven't been following his recent campaign rallies.

If Trump is in good campaign mode, then he has a good chance.
If he shows up in golf cart, gets short winded etc., then odds are against him.

He could get more votes than 2016 or he could get less. He barely won last time. Much will depend on WI, MI, and PA.
Can he win if he loses those states? As long we keep NV, CO, and NM?

Will we need Ohio?

I think Florida is a lost cause.

The odds I see are 50/50

ETA: Based on 2016 map, if we take WI, MI and PA and keep all the other states we won we will get 273. I don't know if maps will change in 2020.

More info: Electoral map will be the same as 2016. Source: Wikipedia. Census change will take effect in 2021.

[oberliner]

85. That is a very thoughtful analysis

I think that the party will be more focused on locking down states that may have been previously thought of as relatively safe but ended up going to Trump. My fear is that Ohio and Florida may be lost making those states you mention (WI, MI, and PA) even more critical.

[Garrett78]

95. Our nominee will have 278 with those 3 states. There were 5 faithless electors in 2016, which...

...would have given Clinton 232.

I can't see Trump winning any of the states that Clinton won. And a couple factors at play in 2016 won't be at play in 2020. I'm thinking of Comey and a nominee who faced ruthless attacks for 3 decades.

I think PA and MI will go back to being blue, as they had been for 6 straight presidential elections prior to '16. Same with WI, which had been blue for 7 straight.

I don't think Florida is lost. Historically, Florida is red in mid-terms and purple in presidential elections. It was very close in 2016, extremely close on November 6 (for Governor and Senate), and I think we can pull it out in 2020.

I think our nominee will have a good chance of winning NC and AZ, as well. Even OH, GA, IA and TX could be in play.

Just by putting TX, AZ and GA in play, we force Trump (or whoever) to campaign in those states.

That said, the days of a nominee winning 400+ electoral votes are long gone. Obama's 365 in 2008 is probably the most we can hope for.

[StevieM]

102. I totally disagree that Florida is a lost cause. I defininitely think we can win it. (eom)

[TheCowsCameHome]

50. On a gurney.

[ZeroSomeBrains]

51. He has been sounding increasingly unwell

I voted for health incapacitating him before 2020. Having been around an uncle who ate very poorly his whole life never eating vegetables and also having a mental disorder is that it almost seems like the person invincible but later you realize signs of their demise.

I argue that he has had many mini-strokes at this point and it is showing in his vocabulary and inability to control himself. The sad thing about this theory is that he will probably end up in a hospital bed having to have his adult diaper changed in the middle of the night and be in a wheelchair for a year until he has almost no ability to live a life as we think of it. But I'm sure the rest of his family will be behind bars for the rest of their lives. Womp womp.

[DoctorJoJo]

52. He Wants to Continue, But Those Nasty Bone-Spurs Just Won't Let Him!

[Rizen]

53. He's too much a narcissist to resign

and Republicans don't care about the country or the law as long as they have a racist authoritarian leader in power to save them from independent women and minorities. Everything depends on voting him and the Russian circus out in 2020.

[grantcart]

55. Create a faux health excuse, has pardon in hand from Pence

[Bayard]

61. I don't think it will be faux...

Stress will kill you, along with a totally unhealthy diet and overweight. He'll drop dead, and his cult will make him a martyr.

I can live with that. Please happen soon.

[The Liberal Lion]

59. I want him voted out of office, since that is the method that would insure

complete removal of the filth that he and his cohorts have brought into our government and our nation. However, pubs are crafty. They understand this too, and will do everything they can to protect their power and protect this orange piece of shit at the same time. Stepping down is the only way that can be done IMHO. Therefore I believe he will step down, and we will be left with Pence.

Pence will actually more effectively enact trump's agenda.

[Racerdog1]

62. Under a sheet

Hopefully soon.

[djacq]

63. Glass Half Full

I was 7 years old when Nixon resigned on August 9, 1974.

I get why the majority of my fellow DU members are voting that Trump will be voted out in 2020. I to believe in the power of the ballot.

This country's institutions is being incredibly tested, or more so, as it was back in 1974. The GOP has gone further right than the party of Nixon, Reagan, Bush 41, and Bush 43. They have become complicit and protective of an established criminal and a Russian asset who is continuing to disgrace the Office of the U.S. President in such destructive methods.

This is my thinking... If, and a really big IF, the Republican Party would have any desire to save themselves, they can't look the other way after Mueller submits his team's findings. The Republicans of 1974 had no choice but to insist that Nixon resign. It was a hard break but it was for the sake of their party's leader facing certain impeachment and conviction.

What's the difference?... Look at the poll numbers. Nixon's approval rating during 1973 was between 40-30% and was forced to resigned. Clinton's average approval rating in 1998 was 62.8% and he came out on top despite impeachment. Trump is now skating at 39% (take out the outlier pollster Rasmussen) with possibly more crimes than we can count on our one hand.

Perhaps my naivety of faith towards the constitution is more than my faith in the electorate. The electorate failed us in 2016. I swore to support and defend the Constitution of the United States six times during my 24 years in the Air Force.

If we don't have faith in our Constitution, then what's the point?

[left-of-center2012]

64. Other

He finds an excuse to not run in 2020.

[nuxvomica]

65. After Mueller issues his report...

I think Trump will lose it and threaten something so extreme that even the Republicans can't ignore it and the cabinet agrees to invoke the 25th.

[Recursion]

66. Whatever the neurological problem is, they can't hide it much longer

He requires both hands to hold a glass of water, can't grip when he shakes hands, and can't open doors or close an umbrella. He could do all of those things a year ago, so he's degenerating.

I think it's a combination of #1 and #3, he won't admit to a health problem but that will be the reason. He'll give a speech about how he's a turnaround artist, and he's achieved a series of stunning wins, America is great again, and now he can go back to the private sector leaving the country in the capable hands of Mike Pence.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

100. Mel is crutch

I think the neurological problem is why Melania holds his hand -- she's his crutch.

It pisses me off to think of him getting health care and pension at the expense of taxpayers. He needs to be removed from office in disgrace.

[citizen blues]

67. He resigns in a deal

Where neither he nor Ivanka do any jail time.

[Runningdawg]

68. Other

After losing the 2020 election he must be forcibly removed from the WH by a SWAT team. The whole time he will screaming at his base to avenge the liberal coup, which they will attempt to do.

[DFW]

69. I think he says, "I made America great again. My work is done here," and doesn't run in 2020.

Delusional, egotistical and wrong--to the last.

[Garrett78]

73. A clear majority don't think he'll make it to 2020. I know there's a lot of wishful thinking, but...

...that's remarkable and a testament to the crazy times in which we live.

I'm torn between resignation and him losing in 2020. Either way, he'll have to protect his ego. He'll say he wants to return to running his empire that's under unjust attack, or that the country doesn't deserve him. Or he'll claim the election was stolen and do what he can to incite violence.

It's hard to say what would be more damaging for him.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

74. He'll never run in 2020. If he doesn't step down first he'll be primaried out.

I think GOP leaders will present him with the choice-- step down now or we'll primary you. And if he has any ideas about quitting the GOP and running third party, they'll let him know that he'd forfeit the GOP's protection and risk impeachment.

[Garrett78]

83. His approval rating among Republicans remains sky high. He'll crush anyone who primaries him.

[INdemo]

77. I dont want to think how the 2020 election will go because

they could steal the damn thing ..and Ill bet the planning stage is now in progress.
I expect Democrats to retake the Senate and I believe McConnell will be defeated this time with fair election and closely monitored in Ky.

The Republicans are well organized and have several ways of stealing various states..
Take a look at Fla. OH, NC and other Republican controlled states.

Yes.... Trump will resign for business reasons.

[MineralMan]

80. I don't care how he leaves, as long as he does.

[SoCalDem]

81. Doesn't even really matter

The toxicity will linger for decades.

It will take a long time to re-staff agencies, and to clean up his vile messes.

[mysteryowl]

86. Yes, tragically, a lot of damage has been done will take a long time to recover from.

[GoCubsGo]

82. Other: He'll be stabbed in the back by one of his own ilk.

Or, they'll slip some polonium in his tub of KFC gravy. Or, they'll look the other way when one of the well-armed rubes that put him in office realizes that Trump is the one screwing him/her over, and he/she decides to pop him. The presidency might protect him from indictment, but it won't protect him from people who hate him enough to take him out. And, it will be someone from his own side, as they're the ones with the record for doing that sort of thing. He's surrounded by people who would probably prefer to see him dead, and have Pence take his place. Pence, included.

[Doodley]

84. I know how he will leave. He will leave in a dirty pair of Depends.

[MrsCheaplaugh]

91. What if he refuses to leave in 2020?

[Garrett78]

92. He'd be physically removed. He wouldn't dare suffer that embarrassment.

[Martin Eden]

94. He has an accident

While sitting and tweeting on his gold plated porcelain throne, Trump accidentally drops his phone into the mess. He gets up, turns around to retrieve it, trips over his dropped trousers, hits his head on the rim, and drowns in his own shit.

Karma can be perfect.

[cbdo2007]

96. He has made an entire business career out of quitting

And manipulative timing...i.e. bankruptcy for many failed ventures.

He will wait until the very last second and then resign and flee the country. Then he will live out his few remaining years as a maverick fugitive hero to his fans always blaming Hillary and the crooked Dems.

[Bucky]

98. I think it'll be better for the country if he's voted out in 2020

Fixing our own mistakes is important for a national sense of closure on this embarrassing, ridiculous, frightening episode. American democracy needs a vote of confidence. The people who deluded themselves into supporting this traitorous, walking travesty need to see a strong majority run this crook out of town

[Julian Englis]

99. I'm going with "Rabid raccoons, enraged with tRump's hair, attack and eat him."

Given the way raccoons are attracted to dumpsters, this is a real possibility.

[RandySF]

101. Health

He's in his 70's, terribly out of shape, doesn't watch his diet, addicted to caffeine (and other stuff, according to rumor), stays up all hours of the night, under tremendous and is always angry. He may or may not finish this first term alive but there's no way he makes it through a second.

[Freelancer]

103. Extraordinary rendition -nt