Congresswoman Karen Bass (D-California) gets vaccinated for Covid-19

[AmericanCanuck]

Link to tweet

[AmericanCanuck]

1. This was an experiment to see if Rep. Karen Bass is as fervently rated as

some newcomers to congress. Rep. Bass will be starting her 5th term in the house and has sponsored and cosponsered a lot of legislation. She is popular and well-respected in her district too doing real work for her constituents.

[aidbo]

24. What was your hypothesis and have you come to any conclusion about your experiment?

[AmericanCanuck]

46. As they say, "the proof is in the pudding"

[liskddksil]

35. Maybe instead of running experiments you

should try phone banking to GA, so that Biden's policy agenda has a fighting chance of success come January.

[AmericanCanuck]

45. Can't I do both?

[ehrnst]

58. Apparently not.

Some people are under the impression that whatever irritates them in the least imust therefore be a danger to democracy itself.

[ehrnst]

56. I had no idea that people posting things here on DU that irritate you

will cost us the Georgia Senate race and cripple the Biden adminstration for the next two years at least!



I guess everyone better stop it right now or the Georgia race will all be our fault - thank you for showing us our folly. I see now that your warning to Nurse Jackie that you're "not gonna let it stand" is obviously for the good of the country, and not personal at all.

[mtnsnake]

62. Just because you don't agree with someone is no reason to claim that they are "irrated"

Good grief.

[ehrnst]

63. You mean like someone not agreeing with you on a particular plan means that they

therefore "want to do nothing?"



BTW - 'irritated' is clearly indicated by the hijacking of multiple threads, many of which have nothing to do with what they're irritated about. More than one person has pointed this out.



I guess that list of evidence I provided that Democrats are 'not sitting on their thumbs" and actually calling Trump what you said they weren't bothered you?

[mtnsnake]

64. It might not be a bad idea for you to apologize to that poster.

[ehrnst]

65. If I was wrong I would.

Is an apology from you to several posters that you directed the same two logical fallacies at forthcoming? That would be a good idea, don't you think?


It would at least be consistent with what you are admonishing me to do.

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14745286

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14743341

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14745122

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14745587


But continue all you want. It's a free world.

[mtnsnake]

67. Strawman

[ehrnst]

68. Nope. Completely based in reality.

These are your posts, yes?

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14745286

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14743341

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14745122

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14745587

[mtnsnake]

70. False dilemma fallacy. nt

[ehrnst]

71. Because you say so?

You resorted to it at least four times in one thread, so you might not be clear on what it is.

These are your posts, aren't they?

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14745286

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14743341

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14745122

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14745587

[mtnsnake]

72. Do you know it's against DU rules to insult another poster?

I'm not going to alert your post for insulting liskddksil, but you really should consider apologizing.

[ehrnst]

73. After you.

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14745286

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14743341

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14745122

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14745587

I'm sure that AmericanCanuck is grateful for the kick.

[ehrnst]

75. Right here...

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14745286

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14743341

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14745122

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14745587




Four "insults" ready for an apology.

[mtnsnake]

76. Another false dilemma fallacy.

Why not just apologize to that person?

[mtnsnake]

78. Don't you think the sun should shine on everyone??

Or does it only shine on you?

[ehrnst]

79. Apologies are waiting. Be the change.

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14745286

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14743341

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14745122

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14745587

[mtnsnake]

80. I didn't think you would answer.

I was right.

[Autumn]

86. Gonna be waiting a long time. Or not

[Cha]

82. Oh please.. tell us all about that.

[Cha]

83. omg really?

[Cha]

85. Are you going to answer the question?

You mean like someone not agreeing with you on a particular plan means that they therefore "want to do nothing?"

[Cha]

84. Exactly!

You mean like someone not agreeing with you on a particular plan means that they therefore "want to do nothing?"

[mtnsnake]

61. +10,000

[MerryBlooms]

2. R&K

[SMC22307]

3. Is she going to be called "privileged" and slammed for tweeting? (n/t)

[George II]

8. She joined 10 years ago and has only 6,000 tweets.

[Sewa]

9. Why that matters is beyond me

How does years in Congress and number of tweets figure in?

[George II]

18. See post #3 to which I responded. You might want to ask the person who made....

....the sarcastic comment about Representative Bass tweeting why he/she thinks it figured in.

That sarcastic comment was unnecessary.

[treestar]

55. Years in Congress without having been known to have slammed Democrats

comes into view.

[SMC22307]

25. So you rank members of Congress based on length of time on Twitter and number of tweets.

What's an acceptable ratio? What's the cut-off?

[George II]

27. No I don't. Again, reread the post to which I responded, YOUR post. THAT is what prompted mine.

Can I look forward to you following me around today?

[ehrnst]

60. Now a strawman, on top of false dillemas and relative privation fallacies

all in one thread.

[Hekate]

11. Not even sure what you mean. You can see she's "older," but even more importantly, she's ...

... leading the way for the Black community and other minorities to feel comfortable with getting the vaccine. They are disproportionately dying from COVID19, so this leadership is important.

[cwydro]

19. Exactly.

+1

[SMC22307]

26. As is a young Latina representing a large minority district...

many of whom have died disproportionately. And with constituents perhaps having doubts about the vaccine. They're both providing valuable leadership.

[George II]

40. Interesting how an OP about a 65 year old California Congresswoman winds up being a discussion.....

....about a young Congresswoman on the opposite coast.

[ehrnst]

48. There seems to be an obsession lately with that.

For some.

[ehrnst]

14. Why would she be?

[MrsCoffee]

15. Why would an over 65 yr old black woman be called privileged for getting vaccinated?

Older black Americans are at higher risk than most of the population.

[SMC22307]

29. AOC represents a large minority district in a city brutally hit...

by the coronavirus. She's communicating with and educating her constituents, many of whom may have doubts about the vaccine. Rather than jump on the tedious anti-AOC bandwagon, why not participate in her Twitter and Instagram Q&A? You might learn something.

[George II]

81. Ilhan Omar represents a relatively large minority district too, and she turned down the vaccine...

It is NOT a requirement than Members of Congress get the vaccine. She's older than 30 and her father died from the virus, and she's educating and communicating with her constituents, too.

Ilhan Omar Defers Vaccine Offer, Says It’s ‘Shameful’ Congress Gets Priority

“People who need it most, should get it,” said the Minnesota Democrat.

Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) slammed the prioritization of the COVID-19 vaccine for members of Congress, saying she won’t get the shot that’s being made available to lawmakers because it should first go to “people who need it most.”

Link to tweet

Omar, a first-term lawmaker whose father died from complications of the coronavirus in June, tweeted Sunday it was “shameful” that politicians are in line to receive the vaccine before workers on the frontlines of the pandemic “who are making sacrifices everyday.”




https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ilhan-omar-covid-19-vaccine_n_5fe1b55cc5b66809cb2d37fa

[NurseJackie]

22. Nope, she deserves praise for not making it about herself. And instead...

Nope, she deserves praise for not making it about herself. And instead... her tweet informs about the vaccine.

She understands that now is not the time for personal boasting or bragging. She knows that it's important for our elected representatives emphasize the value and safety of the vaccine itself, without posturing or putting on airs of bravery and courage (ie: if the undertone of the messaging is that one needs to be "brave" or "courageous," then that also suggests and reinforces the false notion that perhaps there's genuinely something to fear... and that's not the case!)

She's taken the exact right approach and tone. It's good when our elected representatives posts tweets that inform; that put people at ease; and that are in the public's interest (rather than in their own self-interest.) She's a class act. I admire her very much.

[ehrnst]

28. +1000.

[liskddksil]

34. Imagine if they would use all the time they have to

crap on AOC, and instead phone bank in Georgia so that Biden has a shot at getting anything done come January.

[ehrnst]

49. False Dilemma fallacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

[treestar]

53. No. We don't know her risk factors

I think it natural to ask why a 30 year old got it this soon. It was answered that Pelosi asked all of Congress to get it and so we then understood that it was a matter of continuity of government. So we know that now.

Further, I have never heard of Karen Bass before, as she has never slammed Pelosi or other Democrats. To my knowledge, she has not called for replacing Pelosi. She is 5 terms in and I've never known or heard her say or tweet anything indicating there is something wrong about Biden or Schumer, etc.

[Dem4Life1102]

4. Good for her

[R B Garr]

5. It's not privileged for older Americans to get the vaccine

first. That’s how it works. Older folks first.

[AmericanCanuck]

6. I am actually eligible for and offered a vaccine last week.

I passed because I am in a relatively low-risk situation so that someone who really needs it will get it first.

[ornotna]

12. Cool story n/t

[ehrnst]

17. Great! I've volunteered for trials and will have a screening on Tuesday.

[Brother Buzz]

47. Yep, and my ninety-six-years-old mother received her first shot the same day

She lives in a California county that has ZERO empty ICU beds; looks like California has a plan.

Meanwhile, this old fart is still standing in a line that hasn't moved, and I still can't see the front of it. It is what it is.

[SMC22307]

7. Rep. Bass: 'Critical' for minority communities to get vaccinated

https://madison.com/video/cnn/news/rep-bass-critical-for-minority-communities-to-get-vaccinated/video_f469da5d-3b01-5b26-8f19-9907d2302a66.html

Good for she and AOC since they're POC and represent large minority communities!

[Hekate]

10. Thank you for showing the way, Congresswoman

[ehrnst]

13. Great message, direct, focused on everyone else and their safety. Especially important

for a demographic that historically has reasons to be suspicious of the medical community - older Black Americans.

No marketing language or memes, just a short video with a calming statement.

[NurseJackie]

20. I like that her tweet informs about the vaccine. She understands that now is not the time for...

I like that her tweet informs about the vaccine. She understands that now is not the time for boasting or bragging, or making it about herself. She knows that it's important for our elected representatives emphasize the value and safety of the vaccine itself. She's reassuring without posturing or putting on airs of bravery and courage (ie: if the undertone of the messaging is that one needs to be "brave" or "courageous," then that suggests and reinforces the false notion that perhaps there's genuinely something to fear... and that's not the case!) Now is not the time for self-serving posts that would end up being counter-productive.

She's taken the exact right approach and tone. It's good when our elected representatives posts tweets that inform; that put people at ease; and that are in the public's interest (rather than in their own self-interest.) She's a class act. I admire her very much.

[AmericanCanuck]

21. [phone]

That is how tweets from elected officials should be. Focused on educating and being informative rather than boasting, bragging and grandstanding while making it about themselves and not the subject matter.

[NurseJackie]

23. Nancy Pelosi's tweet was the same.

It was fact-driven, not focused on herself. I believe that all of our elected representatives would be well-served if they would ask themselves "WWND?" before they speak or tweet. Nancy Pelosi is a class act. She's smart and wise. She has the experience to know that it's NOT "all about her" and she puts the interests of people ahead of her own. She seeks to solve problems, not create them.

Nancy Pelosi is a national treasure.

[ehrnst]

33. +1000. (nt)

[liskddksil]

32. AOC did exactly that as well but all she got was

derision.

[George II]

41. No. And no.

[liskddksil]

42. Yes, and Yes

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-got-pfizer-151600618.html

[ehrnst]

54. Easy now.

AOC is strong enough to endure what goes on at DU, even if you think that she'll be diminished or Georgia will somehow be lost due to people posting here on DU. The flurry of posts accusing everyone on various threads of 'attacking' her makes it appear that some people think she isn't going to be OK if people post things here that others don't like.

[liskddksil]

31. Umm AOC did exactly that with a detailed step

by step process to inform her massive following, and all she got was attacked.

[NurseJackie]

36. This thread is about Karen Bass.

[liskddksil]

37. And plenty of AOC bashing to which I'm not gonna let

stand.

[NurseJackie]

38. Ridiculous. Nobody is bashing anyone here.

[liskddksil]

39. Lol

[ehrnst]

51. And there's certainly no fixation on certain topics.

[ehrnst]

50. You're "not gonna let stand?"

You're reading into things that just aren't there. And AOC is gonna be OK, so you can take it easy. You seem overprotective, and that doesn't say much for your opinion of her ability to endure whatever gets said or not said here on DU.

[George II]

43. Again, no. And no.

[liskddksil]

44. Yes and Yes

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-got-pfizer-151600618.html

[ehrnst]

52. ....

I think she'll be OK, even if you don't.

[treestar]

57. She was no attacked. It was merely questioned why a young person

would get it so soon and the answer was Pelosi asked the House to be vaccinated because they are government representatives and continuity of government is a value. Also pointed out was that as House member, AOC works with a lot of older people, like Bass, who are at risk anyway and would get the vaccine due to age or co-morbidities.

I do not have a problem, because of the above, with AOC getting the vaccine.

[ehrnst]

59. Some people seem to have the belief that AOC must be defended from any criticism or even faint

praise. I have no idea where the idea that she cannot be expected to endure posts on DU came from - a misguided sense of chivalry, perhaps - but she seems to me to be fully strong enough to remain undamaged by it.

Curious.

[mtnsnake]

69. Good point

Both she and Karen Bass deserve a lot of credit for their contributions.

[mtnsnake]

66. Kudos to Congresswoman Bass!

She's a great lady. I love her charisma