i think it's not just the money guys behind this putch. it's the war mongers.

[mopinko]

a lasting peace in the middle east, an end to the war in ukraine, are ENORMOUS threats to their business model.

sure, the american oligarchs hate that he’s a union guy. they hate what he’s doing for consumers. they hate how much black ppl love him.
but if he starts spreading peace around the world, they go BROKE.

amirite?

[applegrove]

1. It is the public. The voters. They are signaling

they cannot vote for Biden. The children of WWII vets, not happy with a MAGA Hitler-curious party, are moving a bit to Biden yet his numbers and his approval are way lower.

Some CNN spokesperson said the voters don't like being gaslighted by either party: Trump because he and MAGA are built on lies and Biden because he has not been forthcoming on his intellectual health and honest to himself about his appeal to voters.

[mopinko]

2. that's not who's driving this bus.

fewer ppl than they wd have u believe r getting on this bus, but voters ARE NOT driving.

[applegrove]

3. The people you blame are looking at polls

in New Hampshire and Virginia where Biden support in these blue states is tanking. The people are the polls. The Democratic leadership is being driven by the poor showing in the polls vs.Trump.

[mopinko]

4. all i can say is wake up.

polls have been stable. this has nothing to do w polls. this is about stopping biden at any cost.

[StarryNite]

7. Not to mention during how many other elections have we been

down in the polls? It's always a roller coaster. But our candidate has never been turned on like this. I think they, the powers that be, are more afraid of Biden winning. I suspect a putin connection, not directly to the Dem politicians but through the donors. Shit leads to putin.

[bigleaffigleaf]

5. Polls are all there is-like headlights on a dark road

They drive money, volunteer resources, and political alliances.

[tritsofme]

6. At this point Biden represents a much more robust American defense posture than the isolationist MAGAs.

Biden certainly hopes for peace, but he knows how to handle the inevitable bad actors, not embrace them as Trump will do.

[mopinko]

9. if bombs arent falling somewhere, they arent making as much money as they want.

[ananda]

8. I won't say you're wrong.

The war/defense industry is huge.

[NickB79]

10. Many at DU were up in arms a couple months ago over the $1 billion weapons sale to Israel

And we're aggressively confronting China in the Pacific, bolstering our allies militaries across Southeast Asia.

But now DU is convinced that the war mongers are tanking Biden's election?

Biden seems pretty comfortable selling weapons globally.

[mopinko]

11. he is committed to peacemaking.

that doesnt men countries r gonna stop stock piling. of course he wants the u.s. to b selling those weapons.
but if they arent using them up, it cuts into sales. peace is a threat to the merchants of death.

cali dems get a lot of money from defense contractors. so do many others.