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[BannonsLiver]

1. Oh my. A real DUzy

[JohnMFWayne]

8. I live in reality

You must be expecting Republicans to play nice.

[BannonsLiver]

12. Clearly.

[orange jar]

23. Republicans were going to throw shit at the wall no matter WHO the nominee was.

[hlthe2b]

2. Oh Bullshit.

[Lovie777]

3. Stop it.......................

[orange jar]

4. ok

Btw, saying that Biden was "forced out/didn't voluntarily step down" helps to amplify the horseshit narrative that Biden isn't in control. It was ultimately his — and only his — decision to step aside.

[Elessar Zappa]

5. It was Joe's decision.

If he had stayed in, his delegates would have stayed loyal and nominated him. I agree that there was pressure but it’s nothing close to what Republicans have done and are doing to dismantle democracy.

[OnDoutside]

42. Ah come on, whatever else this decision is, it wasn't Joe waking up this morning saying "I'm just not feeling it".

Let's at least keep it real.

[Elessar Zappa]

51. I'm not saying he wasn't feeling the pressure.

I’m saying that no one had the power to push him out. He could’ve stayed the course and been nominated. He made the choice not to.

[OnDoutside]

58. Tell that to Al Franken. Sorry that cuts no ice with me.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

64. Agree.

The drumbeat forced him out.

[OnDoutside]

65. Yup

[JohnMFWayne]

56. No, it was not

The party elites pulled the rug out from in under him.

[mucifer]

6. No President Biden made a choice.

[bearsfootball516]

7. Good lord.

[GreenWave]

9. Or Fox, Newsmax, rw am radio, bots, etc. spewed nothing but hatred, lies and fear about him.

Now they are zapped, but 2025 is real with threats aplenty.

[Lulu KC]

10. I don't care what they say

They're always going to say dumb things, most of them lies. We must keep our eye on the ball. Worrying about what they say only hurts us. I won't give them the room in my head.

Go, Kamala!

[Carlitos Brigante]

11. As much as I hate repeating myself....... Cool story brah! nt

[kentuck]

13. Ha! Ha!

That's a good one!

[JoseBalow]

14. Cool story bro

[DFab420]

15. Um no, this is not true lol.

[TnDem]

16. Who knows

They might spout that shit, but it won't matter...We aren't going to be swayed by that garbage.

I am much more concerned about what inner workings of the donor class and "elites" are planning now for the convention.

[obamanut2012]

17. Welcome to DU... and, wrong

[ornotna]

18. Yeah, no

Try harder.

[Cattledog]

19. Just joined today and trashing dems. Wow!

[JohnMFWayne]

24. No one is trashing Dems

I am just telling you what the Republicans are going to do.

You keep sunshine pumping. Some of us will prepare for the coming battle.

[TomSlick]

60. You are trashing Democrats, whether or not that was your intent.

Not a good idea for a new member of DU.

[BannonsLiver]

54. Yep. pretty sure there's a word for that.

[JohnMFWayne]

20. Okay, I was wrong

I am sure the Republicans will play nice.

[BannonsLiver]

26. Who the hell cares if they play nice?

[Lulu KC]

30. No one expects them to play nice

I'm just curious about what your point is. Are we supposed to feel worse than we have for the past three weeks? Are we supposed to get scared? Where are you going with this?

[EdmondDantes]

21. The president was not forced out of running.

To suggest otherwise greatly diminishes him and a very selfless act that he made for the country. He looked at the numbers and simply concluded that someone else could do better, rather than selfishly staying in. If anything he helped preserve democracy.

[Skittles]

36. oh and the pile-on from both parties was just incidental

please

[EdmondDantes]

48. Not buying that line of thought

There's a marked difference between some sort of "pile on" strong arming the President into quitting, and him making a tactical retreat from a very public life of service for the betterment of the nation. I don't get the sudden lack of faith here.

[Skittles]

53. maybe he "looked at the numbers"

but certainly that was after the pile-on

when his own party joined the chorus, it was over

[mindfulNJ]

22. She is on the ticket

We literally voted for Biden AND Harris

[elias7]

25. A Biden strategy? A cancel culture move? Which of these? What just happened?

I'm uncomfortable with the subversion of the primary and nominating process, with the rapidity and force with which this was done. If Biden was part of the strategy, so be it, it could be genius, but if not, it kind of reeks to me how in 4 weeks he was cancelled from re-election.

What is the plan moving forward? I remember Biden was nobody's favorite in 2020 until it was realized Biden was the one person polling consistently ahead of TFG. That took months and months to figure out. We haven't left ourselves with that process this time.

[still-prayin4rain]

27. President Biden is a brilliant fighter! He did not involuntarily step down. He stepped down because

HE decided Kamala being at the top of the ticket was the best thing for this country.

[CentralMass]

28. There naybe some truth to that. Regarding the party elites.

[ariadne0614]

29. Which "threat to democracy" is not like the other?

As long as *Rump is the other candidate, there’s no comparison.

[barbtries]

31. we will never lose the threat to democracy line,

because that's what republicans are.

Kamala Harris for President

[RandySF]

32. You signed up just for this?

[somaticexperiencing]

33. Respectfully do not see it that way. Not behind the decision. And not behind throwing in the towel, ever, on anything

where I don't have to.

And there are PLENTY of ways in which voting for Democratic ticket is defending DEMOCRACY and voting against DICTATORSHIP.

[Skittles]

34. yeah OK

[MacKasey]

35. This was Joe's choice

I think COVID hit him hard and it's going to be a slow recovery

I'm 10 years younger and it took over a month to feel back to normal

[lizardkingjr]

37. Primaries are not elections.

They are a tool for a political party to help decide its candidate for POTUS. There is nothing in the Constitution about the primaries or how they need to be run. It is a process for the party, not the country. Not everyone gets to vote in the Democratic Primary -- unless it is a state with provisions for it, it is limited to registered Democrats.

The nomination will be decided at the convention, which is where it officially always has been done anyway. I doubt if any other Democrat throws his/her hat into the ring other than Kamala Harris. She will be the candidate from a unified Democratic Party, and the only surprise would be whom she picks as her running mate.

[anglesphere]

38. MAGA just lost the 'fixed elections' tag line

If the 'deep state' is fixing elections on your behalf, you don't need to replace your incumbent presidential nominee.

[PCIntern]

39. Enjoy your stay here...

Pizza, anyone?

Nice first post….

[Yorkie Mom]

45. There is more than one in this thread...

I don't think I've ever seen it this bad.

[edisdead]

40. People in this thread are totally missing the point..

It is talking about the republica. Talking point that is being crafted right now. It WILL be a talking point. How could it not be?

So all the “Bullshits!” in this thread are perplexing.

[JohnMFWayne]

50. They literally are not accepting reality

It's no bullshit. Logical thinkers will realize this.

[Self Esteem]

41. Democrats voted for Joe knowing Harris was a packaged deal.

This only becomes an issue if Democrats abandon Harris.

[Doodley]

43. Yawn! Yawn! Yawn!

[Baggies]

44. It's lost its punch

It’ll remain a rallying point for the rank and file who had already determined to vote for the Democratic nominee regardless of who it was. Outside that group and among many of those who believe their candidate of choice was taken from them, not so much.

[jojog]

46. You are "Member since: Sun Jul 21, 2024, 03:20 PM"

[JohnMFWayne]

52. ...and that changes what just happened

HOW???

[anamnua]

47. It is not as simple as that.

I bow to nobody in terms of my respect and admiration for JB. But it was pretty clear that he was fighting a losing battle against Father Time. I am also a medical doctor with decades of experience in geriatrics and his cognitive decline was starkly obvious. The adverse implications of his staying on under those circumstances are crystal clear. And it would also would have been cruel to the man himself to expect him to do do.
And he was not pushed. He might have been advised but he was not pushed. He alone could call it. And being the selfless patriot that he is he called it the right way. The contrasts with his opponent -- which are now powerfully pushed into national focus -- could not be starker.

[happy feet]

49. I disagree. Repubs will Repub

Who cares what they will do? We know who they are. We're still the party of democracy. GOTV!

[JCMach1]

55. What shit were the yahoos not tossing?

[lapfog_1]

57. Joe removed his name from contention for the Presidency

maybe others asked him to leave... but no one held a gun to his head.

He has a heath problem. If it was cancer, everyone here boohoo ing the situation would all of a sudden be like "oh man, please go take care of yourself" and we would all move on to picking a new nominee... of course there would be a lot of people crying, but NO ONE would say "oh the doctors forced him out of the race".

But Joe's issue is a mental issue... and memory and logic issue. Not unusual.

I have the same issue in my life... and I am 13 years younger. But occasionally I will reach for a word or a name... and I can't for the life of me... recall it. If I am talking... I will trail off and mumble something or try to cover my inability to remember. It isn't bad yet. I can still work in the industry I love... and my experience and knowledge gained over 40 years still makes me valuable to my company I work for. But honest, it scares me to my core. So far it is just memory... logic isn't affected. I remember where I left my keys... I remember (most of the time) what meetings I need to be in.

But... Joe is 13 years older. I will be where he is... and I hope I am as good as he appears to be. But no way would I think that I would be qualified to be President.

Joe is stepping down. People who love him convinced him to do this. We all need to move on and defeat Trump and the authoritarians that support him.

[viva la]

59. That's a really sophisticated argument for the party that insists it wins when it loses--

And can only win because the electoral college was designed to protect Confederate states.

I think they'll just spew out the usual garbage about race and immigrants and hate and communism and sharks.

[R0ckyRac00n]

61. _(ツ)_/

*yawn*

[Rstrstx]

62. The exact opposite

Biden is dropping out BECAUSE he saw the reality that he probably wouldn’t win and chose to put country over his own ambitions

[Renew Deal]

63. Welcome to DU

It has already started

[malaise]

66. BS

That is all