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Arkansas Granny

(31,950 posts)
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 09:55 AM Sep 2024

I realize this is purely anecdotal, but I don't see Trump signs all over the place like I did in 2016 and 2020.

As I've been driving around town and in rural areas of this deep red state, I have been watching for campaign signs. I see a lot of signs for local and statewide candidates, but I can't recall the last Trump sign I've seen. In 2020, people around here were littering their yards with signs, driving around in trucks with multiple flags and stickers and wearing MAGA hats and t-shirts. This year, nada.

To be fair, I'm not seeing Harris/Walz signs either, so I don't know if this is a good sign or not, but it does seem like the enthusiasm for Trump is waning, at least in my neck of the woods.

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I realize this is purely anecdotal, but I don't see Trump signs all over the place like I did in 2016 and 2020. (Original Post) Arkansas Granny Sep 2024 OP
I have noted a bit similar effect here.. yagotme Sep 2024 #1
Same here in Red Upstate NY - no boat parades, nearly no signage or flags... Dennis Donovan Sep 2024 #2
I think they've all gone back under their rocks. Seriously. NCDem47 Sep 2024 #28
Getting off your ass and voting requires enthusiasm for your candidate... Dennis Donovan Sep 2024 #34
My theory is that a lot of Trump's support has died off. Literally. Joe Cool Sep 2024 #3
I've been wondering about the COVID effect, as well. Many of the MAGA crowd were anti-vaxxers and died Arkansas Granny Sep 2024 #11
It won't effect voting because not enough died. More minorities and likely Democrats probably ended up dying. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #22
More urban people and minorities died initially Sky Jewels Sep 2024 #31
Well none have died in my neighborhood. Many minorities have been lax about vaccines. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #62
In my limited driving around, I have seen far fewer TSF signs. rzemanfl Sep 2024 #4
Same here DeepWinter Sep 2024 #5
Yeah, it's scaled back. Ironically I didn't see any in 2016! LeftInTX Sep 2024 #23
Interesting. I have to assume they have them underpants Sep 2024 #6
It will help if everyone mentions their states kansasobama Sep 2024 #9
It's pretty obvious that my state is Arkansas. The only state redder than this is West Virginia (and possibly Oklahoma) Arkansas Granny Sep 2024 #14
Virginia underpants Sep 2024 #26
PA Here RobinA Sep 2024 #50
Ground game kansasobama Sep 2024 #15
That sounds like a great idea 🤪 underpants Sep 2024 #37
He should be getting a lot from the RNC lees1975 Sep 2024 #17
Yeah I remember seeing that too. underpants Sep 2024 #25
I think Trump has no ground game Johonny Sep 2024 #35
I think so too. underpants Sep 2024 #38
Well, Some Group RobinA Sep 2024 #58
Same here in suburban Texas county. northoftheborder Sep 2024 #7
Same amount here. tavernier Sep 2024 #8
The campaign can't afford to print them? There are no union shops that will print them? Oopsie Daisy Sep 2024 #10
Amazon sells the flags LeftInTX Sep 2024 #19
Yeah... I've seen those. Made in Jy-nah and none of the money goes to the Trump campaign. LOL! Oopsie Daisy Sep 2024 #21
Last Saturday, I drove through rural Wisconsin, Kenosha to Janesville. lees1975 Sep 2024 #12
I believe this could happen in WI kansasobama Sep 2024 #18
I was thinking the same thing. crim son Sep 2024 #13
I'm seeing them in San Antonio LeftInTX Sep 2024 #16
Hope it helps your Senate race kansasobama Sep 2024 #20
This election reminds me of 2016 tbh Self Esteem Sep 2024 #39
I think it's because people don't want to advertise what morons they are. bif Sep 2024 #24
I'm in Chicago. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2024 #27
The Trump Show is in reruns. Everyone's seen every episode by now & the magas more than once. CrispyQ Sep 2024 #29
The RNC isnt spending on local staff.... getagrip_already Sep 2024 #30
I finally saw a Trump bumper sticker yesterday - it was a 2020 RainCaster Sep 2024 #32
I'm seeing a lot of tRump signs here in a suburb of Detroit. bif Sep 2024 #33
I live in a liberal district Johonny Sep 2024 #36
There no absence of Trump crap here. As of now doc03 Sep 2024 #40
I think the stuff is visible in swing states. II saw it in WI. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #46
There no absence of Trump crap here. As of now doc03 Sep 2024 #41
"Donalt, vee can't even fantasize the enthusiasm -- ees record!" Kid Berwyn Sep 2024 #42
She looks like an over dressed care giver Bristlecone Sep 2024 #45
Someone invested a lot of time and money in them... Kid Berwyn Sep 2024 #49
They aren't investing in field offices Trenzalore Sep 2024 #43
Far less in my red CO. county Bristlecone Sep 2024 #44
I'm in Alabama Stuckinthebush Sep 2024 #47
Where I live in MI, one short stretch of highway has many Kaleva Sep 2024 #48
The Magat in my community tore down his signs! GreenWave Sep 2024 #51
My Parents epreic01 Sep 2024 #52
I hope that lack of enthusiasm means that some of them just won't vote at all this year. Arkansas Granny Sep 2024 #61
Same here in NE California Mz Pip Sep 2024 #53
The little town I live in duncang Sep 2024 #54
True, very true. republianmushroom Sep 2024 #55
I See Fewer Too ProfessorGAC Sep 2024 #56
3 to 1, Trump advantage in rural Maine Easterncedar Sep 2024 #57
They Like RobinA Sep 2024 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author Island Blue Sep 2024 #60
Here just south of Pittsburgh kwolf68 Sep 2024 #63

yagotme

(4,058 posts)
1. I have noted a bit similar effect here..
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 09:59 AM
Sep 2024

Last edited Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:09 AM - Edit history (1)

I live in a fairly red county, the other elections, there was a LOT of TSF signage out, with a few scattered "D" signs. Our signs are a bit fewer, but the TSF signs are WAY down in a lot of spots.

ETA: For grins and giggles, "and trolling", I found the number to the local Rethug office, and asked them if they had any signs. THEY DIDN'T!!! The reason they gave, was that the local campaign didn't want to put any excess money out, as this was a "red" area. So no free signs for the yahoos. I could go online to the TSF organization, and buy some, but I said "no thanks".

Dennis Donovan

(29,727 posts)
2. Same here in Red Upstate NY - no boat parades, nearly no signage or flags...
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:00 AM
Sep 2024

By this time in 2020, both were prevalent - the enthusiasm seems to be much weaker than 4 years ago. Purely anecdotal, as well, but noticeable.

NCDem47

(2,631 posts)
28. I think they've all gone back under their rocks. Seriously.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:37 AM
Sep 2024

They’ll still vote for him. But outward displays of support has waned big time.

Dennis Donovan

(29,727 posts)
34. Getting off your ass and voting requires enthusiasm for your candidate...
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:51 AM
Sep 2024

They might just stay home if they can't be bothered to put a sign out (or fly their stupid flags). I have one die-hard neighbor who still had their flag out (as of last weekend - I haven't been outside to look since the due to illness) but they're anti-social, negative nabobs (to paraphrase Spiro Agnew) to begin with. Not expecting them to change. We (myself and the other neighbors in my little subdivision) refer to them as Adolf and Eva...

Joe Cool

(1,057 posts)
3. My theory is that a lot of Trump's support has died off. Literally.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:04 AM
Sep 2024

It's been eight years since 2016 and four since 2020. Trump draws the most support from white, less than college educated, and older than 50 crowd. More Republicans than Democrats ended up dying from COVID. A lot of Trump's supporters have died off from other causes.
It might be a sign that the predicted Republican demographic decline is here.

Arkansas Granny

(31,950 posts)
11. I've been wondering about the COVID effect, as well. Many of the MAGA crowd were anti-vaxxers and died
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:17 AM
Sep 2024

at a higher rate than those who got the vaccine. I don't know how that affects voting, but it could be a factor.

LeftInTX

(32,761 posts)
22. It won't effect voting because not enough died. More minorities and likely Democrats probably ended up dying.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:26 AM
Sep 2024

Many of them didn't have the luxury of staying home during Covid.

Sky Jewels

(8,920 posts)
31. More urban people and minorities died initially
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:38 AM
Sep 2024

but after the vaccine came out, red areas got walloped and there was ultimately a big disparity in red v blue deaths, with the red team “winning” that contest by dying in far greater numbers.

LeftInTX

(32,761 posts)
62. Well none have died in my neighborhood. Many minorities have been lax about vaccines.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 03:14 PM
Sep 2024

Many minorities also have preexisting health problems. The GOP's demise has been greatly exxagerated.

rzemanfl

(30,476 posts)
4. In my limited driving around, I have seen far fewer TSF signs.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:04 AM
Sep 2024

There are a few nutcases who have had signs and flags up since 2017 but very few new signs on lawns and vehicles.

 

DeepWinter

(931 posts)
5. Same here
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:05 AM
Sep 2024

I've seen zero Harris/Waltz signs, but fewer Trump signs than prior years. I am in a super red area, so no Harris/Dem stuff is the norm, but I am surprised by not seeing Trump stuff everywhere I turn. It's there, but seriously cut back.

LeftInTX

(32,761 posts)
23. Yeah, it's scaled back. Ironically I didn't see any in 2016!
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:28 AM
Sep 2024

2020 is when it kinda went nuts around here.

I see less than 2020, but I attribute some of it to Covid. Many had nothing better to do. The Trump trains caught on because they didn't violate Covid restrictions.

underpants

(189,335 posts)
6. Interesting. I have to assume they have them
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:06 AM
Sep 2024

but he has very little ground game from what I understand. Not a lot of offices. That could be a cost cutting move or it could reflect the leadership of the RNC….or both.

On edit - there have been reports of a dip in enthusiasm so….

Arkansas Granny

(31,950 posts)
14. It's pretty obvious that my state is Arkansas. The only state redder than this is West Virginia (and possibly Oklahoma)
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:19 AM
Sep 2024

underpants

(189,335 posts)
26. Virginia
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:32 AM
Sep 2024

I can’t say I’ve seen any signs for Trump. In Richmond lots of Harris Walz signs but the city always votes heavy Dem.

I’m in the burbs west of the city which flipped Dem with Obama in 2008. Youngkin was a fluke

RobinA

(10,280 posts)
50. PA Here
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 11:59 AM
Sep 2024

Trump signs have multiplied like bunnies in the past two weeks in my area. I was feeling a bit confident sign-wise, but than I ran errands last weekend. And I'm not even counting the guy up the street, who's had Trump 2024 signs up since 2020. And I'm not in red PA technically, it's more purple here. We have zero Harris signs at the moment, although I know they exist. Weirdly, we don't have either party's Senate nominee signs - a race that could flip the Senate.

kansasobama

(1,696 posts)
15. Ground game
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:19 AM
Sep 2024

Trump had planned to hand over ground game to third parties. Will the third parties do that job with enthusiasm on election day? We will know on Nov 5th. Trump had instructed his campaign that no field offices are needed. He said to them he is the draw and there is no need. That may be true as a cult figure. However, what will happen if he is down around Nov 5th? No one knows. Hen e, it is important for enough negative campaigning.

By the way, I am giving this info based on reading good articles.

underpants

(189,335 posts)
37. That sounds like a great idea 🤪
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 11:00 AM
Sep 2024

I know there’s supposedly going to be “poll watchers” okay 3%ers to intimidate and probably slow down voting. My experience has been that there’s a ground game for canvassing and calls (and giving out signs) and then there are poll volunteers. In Virginia, the watchers from parties IN the voting area have to register with the Commonwealth. Outside could be people from the ground game office handing out materials or just being there as advertising.

If he really actually did farm this out my spidey sense could see something like his inauguration where they WAY over paid friends of there’s and who knows where all the money ended up.

lees1975

(6,315 posts)
17. He should be getting a lot from the RNC
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:20 AM
Sep 2024

Their congressmen and Senate candidates are complaining that all of the money coming in is going to him first, leaving them to raise their own.

underpants

(189,335 posts)
25. Yeah I remember seeing that too.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:30 AM
Sep 2024

Planning and attention to anything other than himself aren’t exactly string suits for him.

Johonny

(23,055 posts)
35. I think Trump has no ground game
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:56 AM
Sep 2024

His campaign is a cult of personality that is relying on free TV and Internet coverage. I guess they're running ads. But local GOP has been suffering as the RNC has become just another money laundering center. Without those safe districts, the GOP would probably be in deep trouble.

underpants

(189,335 posts)
38. I think so too.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 11:04 AM
Sep 2024

As posted above, he supposedly farmed out the ground game to third parties. If you remember, a lot of money went to friends for his inauguration many of which had just been set up.

RobinA

(10,280 posts)
58. Well, Some Group
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 02:09 PM
Sep 2024

is getting it together, because his signs in SE PA have proliferated recently. And not just those little ones, but big ass ones you tack to the side of your house or barn.

northoftheborder

(7,622 posts)
7. Same here in suburban Texas county.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:11 AM
Sep 2024

It’s been over a year since I last saw a Trump sign anywhere - no signs no bumper stickers. This is a 75% + Republican county.

Oopsie Daisy

(5,438 posts)
21. Yeah... I've seen those. Made in Jy-nah and none of the money goes to the Trump campaign. LOL!
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:25 AM
Sep 2024

lees1975

(6,315 posts)
12. Last Saturday, I drove through rural Wisconsin, Kenosha to Janesville.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:18 AM
Sep 2024

In 2020, there were flags and signs everywhere, only an occasional Biden-Harris sign, in that stretch of about 70 miles of mostly two lane highway through the farms and fields and small towns, I counted 8 Trump signs. There were a decent scattering of Harris signs at either end, in Kenosha and in Janesville.

I help with weekend canvassing in Kenosha, even though I live in Illinois. It's been fun. The Democratic turnout might just be a surprise this time around, like it was in 2008.

crim son

(27,530 posts)
13. I was thinking the same thing.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:18 AM
Sep 2024

Here in Bangor, Maine, during his last effort, certain neighborhoods were littered with signs supporting The Orange One. This time there are relatively few. I'm not ready to assume this means people aren't going to vote for him again, but I do enjoy not having to be reminded that some of my neighbors are fools.

LeftInTX

(32,761 posts)
16. I'm seeing them in San Antonio
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:20 AM
Sep 2024

2020 was a crazy year
I think the flags and Trump trains were popular in response to Covid restrictions.
Now one of the Trump train guys is being sued.

We saw a car with pictures of Trump all over it yesterday. Hubby took a pic.
I see plenty of Trump bumper stickers.

I'm not seeing as many of the big old flags like 2020.

Incidentally, I did not see Trump flags or signs in 2016.


I do think the crazy Trump trains and flotilla were a response to Covid restrictions.
Can't have rallies? Let's have trains?

kansasobama

(1,696 posts)
20. Hope it helps your Senate race
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:23 AM
Sep 2024

Whatever happens, Texas will go Trump. Hispanics in Texas have been hoodwinked by Trump. He can call vermins, Uvalde can happen, but nothing matters. Cruz is not likes le. So, I hope the Senate race gives a surprise.

Self Esteem

(1,990 posts)
39. This election reminds me of 2016 tbh
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 11:09 AM
Sep 2024

In 2020, there was far more visibility from Trump supporters. Lots of flags, boat parades and just a much larger presence. I think because he was the incumbent, it made his supporters more open about their support.

But after everything, we're back to that shy support where people might not want to advertise it, just like 2016.

There was a brief moment after that shooting where many rushed to show their support but it's faded.

Now that doesn't mean I think Trump wins like in 2016 but we can't get complacent and think his support has died out. A lot of it just seems to have gone quiet.

bif

(24,893 posts)
24. I think it's because people don't want to advertise what morons they are.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:30 AM
Sep 2024

Even though they're still voting for the Orange Turd.

CrispyQ

(39,278 posts)
29. The Trump Show is in reruns. Everyone's seen every episode by now & the magas more than once.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:37 AM
Sep 2024

I checked out one of my trumper relative's FB pages yesterday, a guy who was a DeSantis supporter in the primaries, & sure enough, he has a meme with a pic of DeSantis & the text, "Miss me?"

getagrip_already

(17,636 posts)
30. The RNC isnt spending on local staff....
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:38 AM
Sep 2024

Those are typically the people who call supporters and ask them to put up signs, then deliver them directly.

Those people dont exist this round because the cash is going to tsf.

It isnt that support isnt there, there is no staff to push out the signs.

RainCaster

(12,325 posts)
32. I finally saw a Trump bumper sticker yesterday - it was a 2020
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:45 AM
Sep 2024

Couldn't even buy a new one for this year. A truly faithful MAGAt.

Johonny

(23,055 posts)
36. I live in a liberal district
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 10:58 AM
Sep 2024

But in 2016, and 2020 there were yard signs, pick up truck rallies, a merchant booth on the street corner. This time around there is nothing.

doc03

(37,565 posts)
40. There no absence of Trump crap here. As of now
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 11:09 AM
Sep 2024

the only Trump train I have seen consisted of one pickup and one SUV.

LeftInTX

(32,761 posts)
46. I think the stuff is visible in swing states. II saw it in WI.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 11:30 AM
Sep 2024

Why waste time in a red state like Texas or a blue state like NY?

doc03

(37,565 posts)
41. There no absence of Trump crap here. As of now
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 11:09 AM
Sep 2024

the only Trump train I have seen consisted of one pickup and one SUV.

Kid Berwyn

(19,531 posts)
42. "Donalt, vee can't even fantasize the enthusiasm -- ees record!"
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 11:25 AM
Sep 2024


"Go look out window! Belieeeeeeve me! You are so popular! Really. Look! Stay looking at window leetle longer, Donalt. You'll know when to come in."

Trenzalore

(2,575 posts)
43. They aren't investing in field offices
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 11:27 AM
Sep 2024

So there isn't a distribution network unless someone goes out and buys them themselves.

The GOP political arm has also outsourced the ground operations so there is no organized centralized campaign.

Stuckinthebush

(11,104 posts)
47. I'm in Alabama
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 11:36 AM
Sep 2024

and there are very few compared to last time. I think it is indicative of the MAGA level of excitement. I think they are exhausted as well.

Kaleva

(39,044 posts)
48. Where I live in MI, one short stretch of highway has many
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 11:42 AM
Sep 2024

As for other roads, there are far fewer then there was back in 2020 or 2016.

GreenWave

(10,657 posts)
51. The Magat in my community tore down his signs!
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 12:16 PM
Sep 2024

No more Hung Cow (WTF?) or magats for city...

Too bad I already know who NOT to vote for!

epreic01

(262 posts)
52. My Parents
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 12:17 PM
Sep 2024

Have a houseboat in Tennessee and in summer of 2016 almost every boat in the Marina had a Trump flag. A little less in 2020…
I went down in August and there were maybe 3?
I don’t think that means those people aren’t voting for him, but it does to me point a lack of enthusiasm.

Mz Pip

(28,029 posts)
53. Same here in NE California
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 12:19 PM
Sep 2024

This time in 2016 and 2020 this deep red county was blanketed with Trump signs. I’m not even seeing bumper stickers.

duncang

(3,767 posts)
54. The little town I live in
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 12:54 PM
Sep 2024

Doesn’t allow political signs out for awhile. Kind of nice since it’s a very red area. The regulations changed a few years back. I think you can’t put them up until 30 days from the election and have to take them down within a certain time. The big problem was the tfg signs. Down the road from me one house had over 20 signs up including a few of the big ones. Maybe 6x3. And I remember seeing them months after the election.

ProfessorGAC

(71,925 posts)
56. I See Fewer Too
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 01:02 PM
Sep 2024

And, I see more Harris signs than I saw HRC or Biden signs in those years. Northeast Illinois.
Not sure what that means, but I am seeing a similar phenomenon.

Easterncedar

(4,020 posts)
57. 3 to 1, Trump advantage in rural Maine
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 01:56 PM
Sep 2024

In two days of driving outside Augusta. In Augusta and on the coast Harris signs outnumber Trump 5 to 1, although the mango Mussolini’s followers seem to go for big banners and lots of placards around their houses.

RobinA

(10,280 posts)
59. They Like
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 02:18 PM
Sep 2024

big signs here in PA, too. Not so much in 2020, but in 2016 and now in 2024 the gigantic signs are out in force. Weirdly, the Trump/Conspiracy Theory guy on my way home from work still has all his conspiracy theory crap all over his yard, but has nothing for Trump. This from a guy with an upside down American flag on a flagpole and a F*ck Biden flag hanging from his porch roof.

Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

kwolf68

(7,980 posts)
63. Here just south of Pittsburgh
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 03:17 PM
Sep 2024

Harris and Walz signs are all over the place. It seemed to happen within the last two days. Harris signs far outnumber Biden's from 2020. Good sign.
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