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Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
Tue Oct 1, 2024, 11:56 PM Oct 2024

I agree with those that felt Walz won the debate tonoght.

But one thing that disturbed me was Vance kept refering to Harris as the "Border Czar". The only time I have ever heard that title assigned to her was by Trump and Vance. Why didn't Walz challenge him on that? Am I incorrect? Did she really have that title?

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I agree with those that felt Walz won the debate tonoght. (Original Post) Mr.Bill Oct 2024 OP
Fucking Ugly mini Sick Fuck Goebbels mentee. Cha Oct 2024 #1
Same epreic01 Oct 2024 #2
Can't wait to see the Republican compilation of JD Vance's greatest moments during the debate. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2024 #4
Either way JD Pissflaps is a fucking pantload. SoFlaBro Oct 2024 #3
CNN poll shows Walz favorability up crimycarny Oct 2024 #5
No, Kamala never had any such title. Qutzupalotl Oct 2024 #6
I think Walz did a lot better than slick. StarryNite Oct 2024 #7

epreic01

(262 posts)
2. Same
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 12:05 AM
Oct 2024

I would have been happier if he had challenged some things more.
And I’d say Walz wasn’t as articulate as Vance, but I think he connects better to blue collar voters.
Also, the sound bites and aftermath will favor Walz.

OAITW r.2.0

(29,320 posts)
4. Can't wait to see the Republican compilation of JD Vance's greatest moments during the debate.
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 12:07 AM
Oct 2024

Should be....er, interesting.

crimycarny

(1,669 posts)
5. CNN poll shows Walz favorability up
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 12:19 AM
Oct 2024

Walz favorability from +14 pre-debate to +37 post debate. 59% approval rating after debate.

Vance improved too but still negative: -22 predebate to -3 post debate.

JD Vance is bound to do something to increase his negativity as time goes on. He’s has to fake who he is in front of an audience. Walz was himself.

Interestingly I wonder how Trump will feel about JD Vance having a better debate than him? I felt Walz won the debate but it Vances performance wasn’t a train wreck like Trump/Harris (though still full of lies) Just curious how Trump will react.

Qutzupalotl

(15,202 posts)
6. No, Kamala never had any such title.
Wed Oct 2, 2024, 12:44 AM
Oct 2024

Thread from Sen. Chris Murphy on her role and successes:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219242699
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1816850542208876756.html

VP Harris was not made "border czar". That's made up.

She WAS put in charge of addressing the root causes of migration from Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala and Mexico. A targeted but important task.

1/ And I got my hands on some data about the results that you need to see.
2/ First, what did VP Harris do? She created something called The Partnership for Central America, and convinced 56 companies to invest more than $5 billion to bolster Central American economies to address the causes of economic migration.
3/ She regularly met with leaders from Mexico and the Northern Triangle countries to slow down the human trafficking cartels and invest in public safety in areas where high crime drove migrants to the U.S.
4/ Here are Harris's results.

From 2021-23:

- Hondurans encountered at the border dropped by 50%
- El Salvadorian encounters dropped by even more - 60%
- Migration from Guatemala dropped by 50%.
- And even Mexican migration - the steadiest flow - dropped by 6%.
5/ Vice President Harris was given a nearly impossible task, and in just two years she helped drive a massive decrease in migration from Central America, and a meaningful decrease from Mexico.

Those are the (stubborn) facts.

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