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Kid Berwyn

(19,616 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:39 AM Nov 2024

Just so you know: Republicans ALWAYS Cheat



1968 - Nixon-Agnew dealt with North Vietnam to sabotage Paris peace talks

1980 - Reagan-Bush dealt with Ayatollah hostage takers

1988 - Bush pardons Weinberger and other Iran-Contra traitors to avoid trial and exposing his own role

2000 - Bush-Cheney count on GOP-leaning Supreme Court to “win” Florida and, thus, US election

2016 - Trump calls on Russia for help to defeat Hillary Clinton

The record is clear: In Presidential election after Presidential election, Republicans get away with treason.

And after they “win,” We the People are told to, “Move on.” And the GOP gets away with it, again.



One last PSA: Remember Project 2025 is set to dismantle democracy and kick-off a building boom, among other things.
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Just so you know: Republicans ALWAYS Cheat (Original Post) Kid Berwyn Nov 2024 OP
Yes they always cheat and lie and kill... Ysabel Nov 2024 #1
Absolute NAZI Kid Berwyn Nov 2024 #5
I've been saying that since I was 17 back in 1976... Ysabel Nov 2024 #9
Yes and that's why they've won the game. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2024 #2
The FBI never released its investigation of Russian hacking from 2016. Kid Berwyn Nov 2024 #7
They always get away with it. SamKnause Nov 2024 #3
Weird, that. Kid Berwyn Nov 2024 #8
The last Republican* who won without cheating was Dwight Eisenhower Botany Nov 2024 #4
Legacy Hires Kid Berwyn Nov 2024 #10
I have no reason to affirm the result of this election Marthe48 Nov 2024 #6
Wall Street seeks R.O.I. Kid Berwyn Nov 2024 #11
Is that Rights of Individuals? Marthe48 Nov 2024 #12
Return On Investment or "Big Oil Wins Again" Kid Berwyn Nov 2024 #19
Yep Marthe48 Nov 2024 #24
EXACTLY! NT CommonHumanity Nov 2024 #16
Erased millions of votes, amplified certain minority groups/men with a small % shift to right... MaeScott Nov 2024 #13
No. That simply is not true. Jk23 Nov 2024 #21
Greg Palast warned us. Kid Berwyn Nov 2024 #22
Of course they do. But here's the thing. If everyone voted, we'd always win. Iggo Nov 2024 #14
Not sure about that anymore, my Friend. Kid Berwyn Nov 2024 #23
How do you know it's true? questionseverything Nov 2024 #25
2024 massive vote suppression and purges live love laugh Nov 2024 #15
So disheartening... karin_sj Nov 2024 #17
It is disheartening. Kid Berwyn Nov 2024 #26
They just won an election unconstitutionally nuxvomica Nov 2024 #18
That would be my basis for arresting SCrOTUS and the rest of the GOP assembly in Congress RFN. Kid Berwyn Nov 2024 #27
And 2004 Ohio, & thus presidential, election stolen. CaptainTruth Nov 2024 #20
Thank you yellow dahlia Nov 2024 #30
Thank you for thanking me! Ive spent hundreds of hours... CaptainTruth Nov 2024 #32
The Suspicious, Disturbing Death of Election Rigger Michael Connell (Fitrakis and Wasserman) Kid Berwyn Nov 2024 #33
You have to see this video: DSandra Nov 2024 #28
Greg Palast is TOPS!!!! Kid Berwyn Nov 2024 #34
Curiously, MAGAS claim elections are always "stolen" when THEY lose. B.See Nov 2024 #29
knr struggle4progress Nov 2024 #31

Kid Berwyn

(19,616 posts)
5. Absolute NAZI
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:51 AM
Nov 2024

Pat Oliphant came out of retirement in 2017 to warn us.



Soon, that insane and dirty prick will be one if his chief advisors.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,240 posts)
2. Yes and that's why they've won the game.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:42 AM
Nov 2024

It doesn’t help to play by the so-called “rules” when your opponent will do anything to win.

“If you ain’t cheatin’, you ain’t tryin’” - Sonny Dykes

SamKnause

(14,121 posts)
3. They always get away with it.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:43 AM
Nov 2024

Why would they stop ???

Now we are suppose to turn the other cheek and act as if nothing has happened.

We are suppose to act like this is normal.

We are suppose to act like this is fair.

Kid Berwyn

(19,616 posts)
8. Weird, that.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:57 AM
Nov 2024

We have to live by the rules.

They never are held to account for breaking the law.

And when they do, their Chief Justice ignores the word “Insurrection” and invents new ones that are nowhere in the Constitution to grant the traitor a chance to Pardon Himself.

Nice.

Botany

(73,642 posts)
4. The last Republican* who won without cheating was Dwight Eisenhower
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:44 AM
Nov 2024

* or was the legacy of cheating.

Kid Berwyn

(19,616 posts)
10. Legacy Hires
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:03 AM
Nov 2024

“They come to me.” — Jane Roberts, wife of Chief Justice John Roberts.



’They come to me’: Jane Roberts’ legal recruiting work involved officials whose agencies had cases before the Supreme Court

In newly revealed testimony, the wife of Chief Justice John Roberts said she worked for “U.S. attorneys, cabinet officials, former senators” and more.


By HAILEY FUCHS and JOSH GERSTEIN
Politico, 01/31/2023

Jane Roberts, the wife of Chief Justice John Roberts, acknowledges having represented a wide variety of public officials — including senior Justice Department officials and Cabinet members — as they transitioned to jobs in the private sector, according to testimony in an arbitration hearing to resolve a lawsuit filed by an ex-colleague against her former legal recruiting business.

A partial transcript of that testimony was included in a complaint submitted to the House, Senate and Justice Department filed in December on behalf of the former colleague.

Snip…

Jane Roberts’ placements included at least one firm with a prominent Supreme Court practice, according to the complaint, which also includes sworn testimony from Roberts herself, in which she notes the powerful officials — whose agencies have had frequent cases before her husband — for whom she has worked.

“A significant portion of my practice on the partner side is with senior government lawyers, ranging from U.S. attorneys, cabinet officials, former senators, chairmen of federal commissions, general counsel of federal commissions, and then senior political appointees within the ranks of various agencies, and I -- they come to me looking to transition to the private sector,” Roberts said, according to a transcript of a 2015 arbitration hearing related to her former colleague’s termination.

In her testimony, Roberts also noted the benefit of working with senior government officials: “Successful people have successful friends.”

Continues…

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/31/jane-roberts-legal-recruiting-work-agencies-cases-supreme-court-00080515
To borrow a metaphor from Smedley Butler: It’s a racket.

Marthe48

(20,299 posts)
6. I have no reason to affirm the result of this election
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:53 AM
Nov 2024

I just hope the Dems figure out how to do it, too. Out-do.

Kid Berwyn

(19,616 posts)
11. Wall Street seeks R.O.I.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:16 AM
Nov 2024

Certain quarters objected when President Jimmy Carter instituted "Human Rights" over economic and business interests as the main objective of U.S. foreign policy. The President understood reliance on Saudi Arabia and oil was a danger to national security. So, he began to move the nation toward "Energy Independence" and renewable, clean sources over dependence on Big Oil for energy. The people who own the oil companies and the governments of oil-rich nations objected.



Three unidentified US hostages speak to the press while their Iranian captors (L and R) watch closely, at the besieged US embassy in Tehran, November 1979. [IRNA-FILES/AFP via Getty Images] Source: https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231104-on-this-day-the-iran-hostage-crisis/



How a Deep State Plot Sank Jimmy Carter

PETER DALE SCOTT
WhoWhatWhy.Org, 11/02/14

The Safari Club was an alliance between national intelligence agencies that wished to compensate for the CIA’s retrenchment in the wake of President Carter’s election and Senator Church’s post-Watergate reforms. As former Saudi intelligence chief Prince Turki bin Faisal once told Georgetown University alumni,

In 1976, after the Watergate matters took place here, your intelligence community was literally tied up by Congress. It could not do anything. It could not send spies, it could not write reports, and it could not pay money. In order to compensate for that, a group of countries got together in the hope of fighting Communism and established what was called the Safari Club. The Safari Club included France, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, and Iran. (1)


After Carter was elected, the Safari Club allied itself with Richard Helms and Theodore Shackley against the more restrained intelligence policies of Jimmy Carter, according to Joseph Trento. In Trento’s account, the dismissal by William Colby in 1974 of CIA counterintelligence chief James Angleton,

combined with Watergate, is what prompted the Safari Club to start working with [former DCI Richard] Helms [then U.S. Ambassador to Iran] and his most trusted operatives outside of Congressional and even Agency purview. James Angleton said before his death that “Shackley and Helms … began working with outsiders like Adham and Saudi Arabia. The traditional CIA answering to the president was an empty vessel having little more than technical capability.”(2)


Trento adds that “The Safari Club needed a network of banks to finance its intelligence operations. With the official blessing of George Bush as the head of the CIA, Adham transformed . . . the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), into a worldwide money-laundering machine.”(3) Trento claims also that the Safari Club then was able to work with some of the controversial CIA operators who had been forced out of the CIA by Turner, and that this was coordinated by Theodore Shackley:

Shackley, who still had ambitions to become DCI, believed that without his many sources and operatives like [Edwin] Wilson, the Safari Club—operating with [former DCI Richard] Helms in charge in Tehran—would be ineffective. . . . Unless Shackley took direct action to complete the privatization of intelligence operations soon, the Safari Club would not have a conduit to [CIA] resources. The solution: create a totally private intelligence network using CIA assets until President Carter could be replaced. (4)


Continues…

https://whowhatwhy.org/politics/government-integrity/the-deep-state-plots-the-1980-defeat-of-jimmy-carter/



In addition to turning down the thermostat and wearing a sweater to stay warm, President Carter installed solar panels on the roof of the White House and ordered the federal highway speed limit of 55, which saved about 150,000 barrels of oil per day and about 4,000 lives per year. President Reagan took the solar panels down and Big Oil really hasn't worried much about getting replaced ever since.

Bottom Line: Big Oil, the Saudi Roils and the global Petrogarchs HATE democracy. They can't live as large as they want if they have to share the loot with other people, including the people who live on top of the "black gold." And they want to get every last penny from every last drop this extracted mineral can yield, even if it kills us all in the process.

Kid Berwyn

(19,616 posts)
19. Return On Investment or "Big Oil Wins Again"
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:35 PM
Nov 2024

I wanted to emphasize how elections mean money and that, in the USA for a long time, one side seems to always get its way.

MaeScott

(914 posts)
13. Erased millions of votes, amplified certain minority groups/men with a small % shift to right...
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:41 AM
Nov 2024

Depress the vote enough for the right ward shift to matter enough to get the EC

Election stolen. In days of wireless everything, everything can be accessed. And data analyzed and adjustments made.
Republicans didn’t veto all those election reforms bills for nothing.

 

Jk23

(455 posts)
21. No. That simply is not true.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:04 PM
Nov 2024

We lost the working class. Esp working class minorities. We need to realise that before we can do better. This nonsense about stolen elections is self destructive crap.

Kid Berwyn

(19,616 posts)
22. Greg Palast warned us.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:28 PM
Nov 2024
Here’s What We Do Now

A Personal Note


by Greg PalastNovember 6, 2024

Excerpt...

But the horror we face is countered by this one hard question the US media will ignore, but I can’t: Did Donald Trump actually win this election? If so, was it really a landslide?

Here’s something you won’t read elsewhere: In the last Presidential, according to the official count of the federal Elections Assistance Commission, 2.7 million provisional ballots were rejected.

Whose ballots? If you’re Black, Hispanic or Asian-American, the chance you were shunted to one of these provisional ballots is 300% higher than if you’re white.

How many Black ballots were thrown in the electoral dumpster?

As a former professor of statistics, I know there’s still a lot of sleuthing in the numbers I have to do, but I can tell you this: The number of rejected provisional ballots, the number of voters wrongly purged from the rolls, the number of ballots “spoiled” and not counted, has unquestionably skyrocketed.

The result: This is the most “Jim Crow,” racially bent election I’ve covered in 25 years of reporting.

Continues...

https://www.gregpalast.com/heres-what-we-do-now/

Putin I can understand wanting to hurt the USA. But Trump and his enablers are traitors. And electrons are amazing things. Who can manipulate them better than big budget governments, perhaps only Musk and Thiel know.

Iggo

(48,745 posts)
14. Of course they do. But here's the thing. If everyone voted, we'd always win.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:57 PM
Nov 2024

So…we know the fix.

Kid Berwyn

(19,616 posts)
23. Not sure about that anymore, my Friend.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:32 PM
Nov 2024

Really believed everyone was activated.

We had people lining up here in metro Detroit from the get-go.

And yet, fewer people showed up to vote for Harris than for Biden.

That must be true, but it just doesn't add up with what my own eyes and ears told me.

questionseverything

(10,642 posts)
25. How do you know it's true?
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:01 PM
Nov 2024

No human beings eyes read the ballots, no human being counted the ballots. They are fed through a scanner and the scanner spit out a series of numbers (results).

If American citizens can’t directly oversee the counting of the votes, there’s no reason to believe the results.

I am starting to believe, the evil one talked so much about wanting hand counts so democrats wouldn’t request them ( not wanting to sound like the evil one)

karin_sj

(1,192 posts)
17. So disheartening...
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:11 PM
Nov 2024

But so true. And the most disheartening and frustrating thing is that they always get away with it. The Democrats, being the decent people they are, just accept it and are even gracious and accommodating to these disgusting, hateful thugs who are stealing and destroying our democracy and our country. I just want to crawl into a hole and hibernate for the next four years, although no doubt, they'll find a way to cheat and win the next time as well.

Kid Berwyn

(19,616 posts)
26. It is disheartening.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 06:27 PM
Nov 2024

President Biden looks at the long term when he reminded us today:



Biden welcomes to the presidency a man he condemned as a major threat

The president on Thursday promised a smooth transition of power, in Rose Garden remarks that both accepted Trump’s victory and challenged what he represents.


By Matt Viser
The Washington Post, November 7, 2024

President Joe Biden walked into the Rose Garden on Thursday morning to concede his party’s defeat, expressing confidence in the American electoral system and vowing to oversee a peaceful transfer of power.

Snip...

“Setbacks are unavoidable. But giving up is unforgivable,” Biden said. “A defeat does not mean we are defeated.”

“We lost this battle,” he added. “We’re going to be okay.”

Biden is now forced to welcome and legitimize a man he condemned, a man whose ouster — as he has said repeatedly over the past five years — was the entire reason he ran for president in the first place, and a man he has called a fascist and an existential threat to democracy.

Biden is now pledging to honor and accept Trump in a way that Trump did not and would not do for him. Biden’s fealty to democratic traditions requires him to courteously pave the way for a man who often dismisses them — but whom the voters chose.

Continues...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/11/07/biden-speech-nation/



As long as Trump is never held to account, we will need more than the rhetoric of "We'll get 'em next time."

In case no one's noticed, there hasn't really been a next time.

nuxvomica

(13,201 posts)
18. They just won an election unconstitutionally
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:19 PM
Nov 2024

Regardless of what the Supreme Court ruled, we will have a presidency in violation of the 14th Amendment. He participated in an insurrection.

Section 3

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

It doesn't matter that the Supreme Court limited enforcement, the plain truth is that his presidency will be in direct defiance of the clear language of the Constitution. That's not a good thing.

Kid Berwyn

(19,616 posts)
27. That would be my basis for arresting SCrOTUS and the rest of the GOP assembly in Congress RFN.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 06:38 PM
Nov 2024

Spot-on observation and analysis, nuxvomica. By backing Trump, and thus violating the very words of the Constitution, Roberts and the "Republicans in Congress" are MAGA, active in obstructing Justice and working to advance Trumputin"s conspiracy to overthrow the Constitution.

President Biden would be wise, IMFO, to knock the pants out of them NOW using all his Executive power as POTUS, as well as what Justice Roberts and his billionaire oligarchic friends who wrote Project 2025 plan to roll out on Democracy.

If not now, when? November 2026? The smoke then would have long cleared from what those NAZI MAGAts plan to build.



CaptainTruth

(7,509 posts)
20. And 2004 Ohio, & thus presidential, election stolen.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:55 PM
Nov 2024

Research Ken Blackwell, Michael Connell, SmarTech, how SmarTech supplied IT services for Bush/Rove & Blackwell hired them to provide backup servers for the Ohio election servers.

The Ohio state servers were crashed at 11:14 pm after in-house IT staff were told to go home, vote tallying transferred to SmarTech servers in TN, the count then shifted 3% toward Bush, giving him the state & the White House. When precinct totals were examined there were many where the reported vote total was greater than than the number of ballots cast. The number of reported votes was clearly wrong. Whoever modified the vote totals was sloppy though & added the same number of votes to every precinct they modified. So a bunch of precincts reported X more votes than ballots cast & the number X was the same in every case. Clear fraud.

There was an investigation, 2 IT techs who worked with SmarTech to pull off the theft of the election agreed to testify & describe how they did it but both died under suspicious circumstances before they could testify. With no witnesses the investigation ended.

Incidentally, they tried to do it again in 2008. Ohio's election servers were attacked & crashed at 11:15 pm (1 minute later than 2004) but this time Ohio's IT staff was on the job & prevented the vote counting from being transferred to the SmarTech backup servers. That's why Karl Rove freaked out on TV when Ohio was called for Obama, if you saw it you remember. I was watching live & Rove had a meltdown, saying the call was wrong & it was too early & there were a lot of votes left to count etc. I knew what they had done in 2004 & I sat there thinking "Holy shit, they're trying to do it again." Rove wanted to give SmarTech time to change the numbers, but thankfully this time they weren't able to take over the vote tabulation.

Note that Blackwell was key in putting all the pieces in place to facilitate the theft of the election.

What did Republicans do in this election, all across the country? We may never know, & like 2004 Ohio, our MSM will never report on it.

CaptainTruth

(7,509 posts)
32. Thank you for thanking me! Ive spent hundreds of hours...
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 12:04 AM
Nov 2024

...researching things like this & I swear I could write books about it.

Kid Berwyn

(19,616 posts)
33. The Suspicious, Disturbing Death of Election Rigger Michael Connell (Fitrakis and Wasserman)
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 11:28 AM
Nov 2024
https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4694564

PS: Sorry so late in reply. The Search aids were not returning the article and I had to go through my old Octafish journal to find the info.

Kid Berwyn

(19,616 posts)
34. Greg Palast is TOPS!!!!
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 11:32 AM
Nov 2024

"The hardest thing to see is what is in front of your eyes. — Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Thank you for the heads-up on the video. Vote caging today makes everything legal-like, except it’s not.

https://www.gregpalast.com/

B.See

(4,948 posts)
29. Curiously, MAGAS claim elections are always "stolen" when THEY lose.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 07:18 PM
Nov 2024

This election, "fair" according to them.

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