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Trump has fallen below 50% of the popular vote. (Original Post) In It to Win It Nov 15 OP
This is good. mr715 Nov 15 #1
Meh. Bill Clinton became President with 43% of the vote. PeaceWave Saturday #44
But with a plurality and an electoral mandate mr715 Saturday #45
Still no stats on mail in ballots, it was the mail ins that were the basis of Trumps "they cheated" charge the last time uponit7771 Nov 15 #2
I'm thinking they will peregrinus Saturday #25
Considering red states are the majority beneficiaries of Federal aid... Think. Again. Saturday #28
Yep, Melon Usk wants austerity for the poor... Red states fit that bill uponit7771 Saturday #34
Minority rule. maveric Nov 15 #3
Apartheid, baby! usonian Saturday #13
THIS malaise Saturday #43
Otherwise known as "The Electoral College". Think. Again. Saturday #29
Hooray for small favors wryter2000 Nov 15 #4
Popular vote is irrelevant AverageOldGuy Nov 15 #5
It's relevant when the winner is claiming a mandate. You can't have a minority vote pnwmom Nov 15 #10
As if he or his worshipers care about that at all. Mariana Saturday #22
Exactly, with control of all three branches of government why should they. Emile Saturday #32
Yes, and fuck the electoral college! ShazzieB Saturday #19
If we had the Popular Vote Compact in place, Trump would have won all 538 EC votes. MichMan Saturday #24
K&R UTUSN Nov 15 #6
No Mandate! Granny Blue Nov 15 #7
Why do you think that matters to them? Mariana Saturday #23
Here comes the fraud! JoseBalow Nov 15 #8
Kick dalton99a Nov 15 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Saturday #11
K&R Think. Again. Saturday #30
Maybe he'll fall into an industrial hog farm's waste pond Orrex Saturday #12
It's not over til it's over. SleeplessinSoCal Saturday #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Saturday #20
HOPE he KEEPS FALLING. Cha Saturday #15
So Stein, Howdy Doody, etc., got a bit less than 1%. Silent Type Saturday #16
Bill Clinton won 43% of popular vote in '92 and 49% in '96 AdamGG Saturday #17
I remember 43 saying that after the 2004 election. n/t John1956PA Saturday #26
Me too. Nt AloeVera Saturday #33
I think he may have also said it after 2000 AdamGG Saturday #37
I remember the jokes about 43's "Man Date" in 2004. John1956PA Saturday #40
3 horse race GreenWave Saturday #31
Clinton won a plurality, Trump can't even claim that iinm uponit7771 Saturday #36
Sure he can Polybius Saturday #38
Yeah, he still wins the plurality... makes me think something is so wrong uponit7771 Saturday #39
You can tell from the reaction and all of the online postings Dem4life1970 Saturday #18
no mandate, and half the country isn't evil The Wandering Harper Saturday #21
Loserman (R) BoRaGard Saturday #27
Life is about the small victories, I guess? Blue_Tires Saturday #35
But he still wins, 'eh? calimary Saturday #41
His "mandate" is as shriveled up as his mushroom. nt City Lights Saturday #42
No majority LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #46

mr715

(866 posts)
45. But with a plurality and an electoral mandate
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 08:14 PM
Saturday

It is the barest of bones symbolic, but I take some small sliver of solace that at least the President-Elect couldn't achieve a popular vote majority.

uponit7771

(91,763 posts)
2. Still no stats on mail in ballots, it was the mail ins that were the basis of Trumps "they cheated" charge the last time
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 10:45 PM
Nov 15

... because they came in late and pull Biden over blue wall.

Nothing about them this time, how can there be record early voter turnout and day of and mail ins fall flat ... whatever, people are going to feel the pain even if Benedict Donald carries out 25% of his economic plan.

I pray only MAGA feels the greater consequence and not everyone else who didn't vote for the rapist, racist, felon and theif

peregrinus

(223 posts)
25. I'm thinking they will
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 06:05 AM
Saturday

There is no polite way to tell somebody they believe in an illusion. Economic pain is going to be soul crushing to them because they are spiritually invested in this bloated piece of shit.

Think. Again.

(17,983 posts)
28. Considering red states are the majority beneficiaries of Federal aid...
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 06:56 AM
Saturday

...I believe they'll be hurting much worse than Blue states very soon.

pnwmom

(109,562 posts)
10. It's relevant when the winner is claiming a mandate. You can't have a minority vote
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 11:46 PM
Nov 15

and logically claim a mandate. The majority of voters opposed him.

ShazzieB

(18,670 posts)
19. Yes, and fuck the electoral college!
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 12:54 AM
Saturday

It's one of the most undemocratic things in our constitution, and it needs to GO,

Yes, I know know it won't be easy. That is a separate issue from the fact that it's a VERY bad thing.

MichMan

(13,194 posts)
24. If we had the Popular Vote Compact in place, Trump would have won all 538 EC votes.
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 05:55 AM
Saturday

Now that would be a mandate

Granny Blue

(12 posts)
7. No Mandate!
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 11:41 PM
Nov 15

Every time these bottom feeding liars claim they have a mandate to screw over my fellow humans, I want to scream “Hell no you don’t!” Now I have facts to backs me up. Thank You!!!

Response to In It to Win It (Original post)

Response to SleeplessinSoCal (Reply #14)

AdamGG

(1,487 posts)
17. Bill Clinton won 43% of popular vote in '92 and 49% in '96
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 12:40 AM
Saturday

Last edited Wed Nov 20, 2024, 01:59 AM - Edit history (1)

I know we want to find solace where we can, but Trump is going to handle everything the same way regardless. In 2000, George Bush lost the popular vote and still went around claiming that he had a "mandate".

Trump's supporters are way too stupid to know the difference or to care. Honestly, no members of the Democratic party felt that Bill Clinton should govern differently because he didn't win 50% of the popular vote. In his case, having Ross Perot as a 3rd party candidate affected the numbers.

AdamGG

(1,487 posts)
37. I think he may have also said it after 2000
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 01:31 PM
Saturday

I might be wrong, but I remember thinking how stupid a comment it was.

John1956PA

(3,374 posts)
40. I remember the jokes about 43's "Man Date" in 2004.
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 03:30 PM
Saturday

Maybe some of those jokes were on DU. It was not until 2006 that I became a member of DU.

I think the term applies when the winner not only gets the electoral vote win, but the majority of the popular votes as well. As I recall, Bill Clinton was disappointed in 1996 that he just missed getting a majority of the popular vote. That lack of majority cost him the "mandate" which, as recall, he had been talking about getting.

Polybius

(17,831 posts)
38. Sure he can
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 01:59 PM
Saturday

You don't think Trump will win a plurality? I doubt Harris passes him in the Popular Vote count.

Dem4life1970

(430 posts)
18. You can tell from the reaction and all of the online postings
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 12:46 AM
Saturday

that he has no mandate. People are not voting for dictatorship and mass deportations.
They want cheaper eggs (tariffs should help with that. ).

They are already interpreting this election as a green light for Project 2025, and I hope they
are paying attention to the response to his "cabinet" picks (insert lead balloons here).

BoRaGard

(2,848 posts)
27. Loserman (R)
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 06:24 AM
Saturday

If the G.O.P. Felon/Rapist wants a real man date,
he needs to have a private talk with his Attorney General in waiting.

calimary

(84,331 posts)
41. But he still wins, 'eh?
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 03:46 PM
Saturday

What would happen if the continued count ultimately were to show SHE won?

I kinda doubt that would happen, but what if it DID? Would that reverse the results?

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