Donald Trump Has Not Won a Majority of the Votes Cast for President

[Galraedia]

America has given us an unprecedented and powerful mandate,” Donald Trump declared in the early morning hours of November 6, 2024, after all the polls had closed. Indeed, he claimed that he had won “a political victory that our country has never seen before, nothing like this.” Trump was excited by the numbers showing him with well over 50 percent of the popular vote and establishing a wide lead over his Democratic rival, Vice President Kamala Harris.

Unfortunately, for the president-elect, the United States takes time to count 155 million votes—give or take a million—and the actual result will rob Trump of his bragging points.

Trump can no longer claim that powerful mandate. By most reasonable measures, the beginning point for such a claim in a system with two major parties is an overwhelming majority vote in favor of your candidacy. Trump no longer has that.

Over the weekend, as California, Oregon, Washington, and other Western states moved closer to completing their counts, Trump’s percentage of the popular vote fell below 50 percent. And his margin of victory looks to be much smaller than initially anticipated. In fact, of all the 59 presidential elections since the nation’s founding, it appears that—after all of the 2024 votes are counted—only five popular vote winners in history will have prevailed by smaller percentage margins than Trump.

Read more: https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/donald-trump-vote-margin-narrowed/

[BOSSHOG]

1. We had to have the electoral college

Because that’s what slave owners wanted.

If the counting holds up, trump will have lost all three popular votes in 16, 20 and 24. But WON 2 of 3.

[WarGamer]

3. The OP is misleading... he still won the popular vote by millions of votes.

[Self Esteem]

4. He is not going to lose the popular vote this go around.

[Wiz Imp]

17. He will still end up winning the popular vote this year

There aren't that many votes left to count. Most estimates are it will end up being about a 1.4% margin, which would be like the 6th or 7th smallest popular vote margin in the nations history.

[Self Esteem]

2. Neither did Bill Clinton in either of his elections.

Doesn't matter. A win is a win. He got a popular vote win and a comfortable victory in the EC.

[onenote]

26. Or JFK. Or Harry Truman. Or Woodrow Wilson - twice. Or Abe Lincoln.

[Moostache]

5. So what? Really...

If it meant he was not about to harm millions immediately, condemn billions to death when the climate collapses entirely, or steal trillions for the rich with MORE tax cuts and tariffs that hurt the poor far more...then MAYBE I'd have a couple fucks left in my bag that could be found...as it is, that bag is empty and Trump is still going to fuck things up for the rest of my lifespan just in time for me to see Social Security gutted and lost, Medicare gutted and lost and human rights trashed and pissed on. It is hard to imagine a more dire situation and future if I tried...

So, pardon me for not doing handstands that it was not by as wide a margin as the fucking dick was already crowing about, that it could have bee worse, its not like he would ever acknowledge it anyway... I don't care anymore until the headlines say "Trump found dead on toilet", THEN I will once again genuinely smile and breathe easier. Until then, I hope those who voted for him under the delusion he would help them get fucked so hard that they cry tears of blood. And then they can wipe that shit on their shirts and be forever marked by it.

[Meowmee]

7. I'm waiting for a similar announcement

And I hope I live long enough to hear it.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

6. Right now he's at 50.87%

But hopefully VP Harris can get enough more to pull him below 50%.

[Stallion]

12. According to CNN Election website its now 49.9% to 48.3%

he's been dropping daily on that website but I don't now the latest most up-to-date website

https://www.cnn.com/election/2024/results/president?election-data-id=2024-PG&election-painting-mode=projection-with-lead&filter-key-races=false&filter-flipped=false&filter-remaining=false

[Wiz Imp]

15. Decision Desk has slightly higher (more up to date) numbers but they don't list percentages

https://decisiondeskhq.com/results/2024/General/President/

[Wiz Imp]

13. Wrong! Not even close.

He is at 49.9%. Try reading the article.

https://www.cookpolitical.com/vote-tracker/2024/electoral-college


Harris (D) Trump (R) Total
48.26% 49.93%
74,163,722 76,718,349 153,662,929

[SickOfTheOnePct]

16. My bad

I use AP numbers, but didn’t account for third party - thanks for the correction.

[Wiz Imp]

18. No Problem

[LizBeth]

8. Did I read this correctly. He still has popular vote, though a small margin?

[soandso]

9. You read it correctly

but it's not true. Currently he is still leading by 3.37% or 2,544,654 votes.

I hate clickbait.

[NJCher]

11. source?

I provided mine. Now you provide yours.

[soandso]

21. here

https://decisiondeskhq.com/results/2024/General/President/

[Wiz Imp]

14. Wrong! The lead is down to 1.6%

https://www.cookpolitical.com/vote-tracker/2024/electoral-college

Harris (D) Trump (R) Total
48.26% 49.93%
74,163,722 76,718,349 153,662,929

[soandso]

22. These are the numbers I'm seeing

But I'll give you that I likely calculated the % wrong (bad in math).

76,763,730
74,221,930

https://decisiondeskhq.com/results/2024/General/President/

So that's a over a two and half million vote lead (isn't it???). In what world does that mean what The Nation claims (he's fallen behind in the popular vote)? I certainly understand wanting that to be true but, so far, it's not. There may be enough uncounted votes in CA to flip that but not yet.

[Wiz Imp]

24. They said he has not won a majority of the popular vote not that he fell behind in the PV count

As of now he is at 49.93% of the popular vote - less than 50% so not a majority. Trump won a plurality of the vote but fell short of a majority.

Your percentages were wrong because you didn't account for the votes for people other than Trump or Harris.

[soandso]

25. Okay, got it

You're right, I didn't include the others (didn't even think to). My bad.

[NJCher]

10. here are figures from a Bing search under

current vote count 2024 presidential election

With 87 of the popular vote counted, trump has 76,624,827 and Harris has 75,029,219.

That's 50.0 to 48.3.

If you were to listen to Wargamer, Trump is millions of votes ahead. Do the math yourself, it comes out to a difference of 1,595,608.

That's hardly millions and millions. I guess some people love to take a beating so much they'lll exaggerate.

[Fiendish Thingy]

19. Seems to me that if the "Bullet Ballot" CT were true...

They would have given Trump enough votes for a majority.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

20. Donald Trump got a lower percentage of the popular vote than Hillary Clinton did in 2016.

Link to tweet

Hahahhahahahaha.

Donald Trump got a lower percentage of the popular vote than Hillary Clinton did in 2016.

I bet that makes him big mad.

Hardly a "mandate."

[onenote]

23. What exactly are those numbers? Not making any sense to me.

Hillary got 48.2% of the popular vote in 2016.
Trump will end up with less than 50, but more than 49.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

27. This is the difference in the relative percentages of the popular vote

Trump got 46.1% on the vote which means that there is a 2% difference

[onenote]

28. Still not following

If Hillary got 48.2% of the vote in 2016 and Donald Trump is getting around 49+ percent of the popular vote, how does the statement that "Donald Trump got a lower percentage of the popular vote than Hillary Clinton did in 2016" make sense.

And when did Trump get 46.1% of the vote?

[LetMyPeopleVote]

29. In 2016, Hillary's margin over trump in the popular vote was 2.1%

Hillary had 48.2% of the popular vote and trum had 46.1%. 48.2% is 2.1% greater than 46.1%. Hillary had a larger popular vote margin in 2016 compared to trump’s popular vote margin in 2024. 2.1% is greater than 1.7%.

[onenote]

30. So we're supposed to celebrate that Kamala lost the popular vote to Trump by .04% less than Trump lost it to Hillary?

I get it now, although its not what the tweet actually says. And it seems like pretty thin gruel for a celebration, particularly since both times Trump ended up president. I doubt he gives a shit.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

31. The key is that trump has no mandate

This was a weak win which means that any claim of a mandate is bogus

Link to tweet

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[LetMyPeopleVote]

33. trump[s popular vote margin of victory is down tom1.5%

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[LetMyPeopleVote]

32. No majority

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