Ellen DeGeneres & wife have moved out of the US

[soandso]

Ellen DeGeneres and wife Portia de Rossi have moved to rural England, put their Montecito estate on the market and plan to never return to the United States, telling friends the election of Donald Trump was their primary motivation, a person close to the former TV host told TheWrap.

DeGeneres has already moved to the Cotswolds, a rural area in south-central England, the person said, adding that her Montecito mansion, roughly 90 minutes north of Los Angeles, has been pocket-listed or will be listed soon. A representative for Riskin Partners, the prestigious real estate company she retains, did not immediately respond to a request for comment Wednesday.

https://www.thewrap.com/ellen-degeneres-moved-great-britain-left-united-states-donald-trump/

[Skittles]

1. yeah, that's the way to fight fascism

[CousinIT]

7. I'd GTFO of this soon to be shithole if I had anywhere I could go

No country accepts older people or migrants without a damn good reason ie: special skills etc.

My retirement is ruined and I can’t even do that now. A recession will tank the 401K and I can’t take money out until I retire which I cannot realistically do for 3-5 years now. And by that time, inflation will be 18% and half of us will be living at or below the poverty line - like Argentina.

The fucker has ruined my life and likely a lot of other people’s lives too and millions will die.

This country is too full of stupid people to survive.

[bdamomma]

32. Your comment here

"This country is too full of stupid people to survive".

But, there are many others who want to survive.

[CousinIT]

37. True. I am one of them.

But we are drowned out by stupid and there is no pushback from Democrats, the media or anyone. I do not have time/money to fire up a media empire or protest or donate or whatever. Those who do are the fucking billionaires who buy and own everything: the courts, our government, and all the media.

[bdamomma]

38. CousinIT

do whatever you can do on a local state level, whatever you can do even if it's the smallest thing.

[Skittles]

71. my mum was English

I could easily go but I will stay and FIGHT - FUCK that fleeing the scene, FUCK THAT

[Farmer-Rick]

77. A lot of countries have retirement visas

I'm not sure if they all call them that but it's a visa for us retired folks living off of investments or pensions. Some have very cheap income requirements.

Those countries with realistic retirement income requirements, have lower cost of living too.

But if you have serious medical issues some countries won't take you.

[edhopper]

19. My family did not fight fascism in Germany

they got the fuck out.
We fought fascism a few weeks ago, we lost.

[Johonny]

25. Do you blame Albert Einstein for fleeing Nazi Germany?

A member of the targeted LBGTQ community and an entertainer with the means to flee before being targeted sounds like a smart move. It is only too bad Americans decided to put a target on her back and elect a man that promises concentration camps.

I would not be surprised if more leave before finding out.

[meadowlander]

62. Why stick around for the Supreme Court to invalidate your marriage

and decide that speaking publicly about your relationship is "pornography" and therefore a criminal offense?

It's easy to be an armchair commando when it isn't your life on the line already.

[orangecrush]

31. If you decided to fight facism

In occupied France or in Germany during WW2, you didn't do it openly.

You had to try to make contact with Allied agents, or a resistance cell, an extreme risk.

And if you succeeded, your average life expectancy was about 3 months.

[usedtobedemgurl]

34. Who said they had to fight it?

They are at risk. I do not blame them one bit. They left. Good for them. They are adults and make their own decisions. We should respect that.

[ck4829]

40. What does it mean to fight?

Because when I suggested jury nullification as a tactic against laws these people would pass, I was criticized for the tone and I was chastised for caring more about the freedom and welfare of my fellow people than about zany laws based on conservative vibes and some oath to care about those laws.

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19702243

So this isn't a criticism of you, but I do invite everyone here to ask themselves... if you say "fight", that's good, but what are you actually ready to do to fight?

Welcome to the political war.

[Mariana]

41. Tens of thousands of Jewish people left Germany in 1933.

Do you feel the same way about them?

[Skittles]

73. you are really going to compare ELLEN FUCKING DEGENERES to that

[Mariana]

75. Yes, I will.

The LGBTQ community is very much at risk. If they feel unsafe and they are able to leave, they should. Also, Ellen's wife is an immigrant. It's likely that LGBTQ immigrants will be targeted. Should they wait around for her to be stripped of her citizenship and deported?

[SaintLouisBlues]

67. Fight? They can still vote and lobby for change from anywhere in the world.

Let me know if there's ever an actual fight.

[Cha]

2. Good on Ellen DeGeneres &

Portia de Rossi. It's what they want to do... and I'm happy for them.

TY

[soandso]

3. And they didn't make a big fuss about it

So many celebrities said they would (back to 2016, even). AFAIK, they're the only ones who have.

People have to do what they have to do and I wish them happiness in their new home.

[Cha]

58. So Do I.. Mahalo! Right... they Just Did It.

[moniss]

4. The way it's going to go here this was the right move for them

I believe. You know they would have been targeted. At least this way they can give financial support to resistance groups without being slapped in jail and being stripped of their assets etc. That's a part of what is coming. They'll list you as subversive, come and get you and take every financial asset from you or they'll roust you repeatedly with phony charges etc.

Look what they're trying to set up to do to military officers. If they'll make that move they certainly won't be worried about going after LGBTQ+ folks. Plus we know how prevalent "died in custody", "died in the car", "we didn't know he needed medical attention even though he was saying he couldn't breathe and had severe pain" etc. cases have become. That's what worries me also about what happens when the Goon Squads go around rounding up people for deportation.

[magicarpet]

51. The local police, the sheriffs, the state police

... the federal police and alphabet LEO policing agencies, the national guard, the military, and the militias - will all become djt's private goon squad. He will give them all total immunity and pardons then unleash them to go out and bust heads upon his commands.

Djt will every so often declare a night of broken glass where the city, county, state, federal and military LEO agencies have a night of terror against the "OTHERS AND MINORITIES" they hate and detest. Just to remind the population that djt is in charge and he and his MAGA Bros are intolerant - unless you are White, "Christian", and a rabid White Supremacist Nationalist.

[bdamomma]

59. So the felon gives

law enforcement orders to capture and detain people and he will say he wasn't responsible. Remember how he said he was not responsible for Americans dying from Covid? Such a weak small man/child.

[ibegurpard]

5. Ellen did more than most

To promote queer acceptance and to spread kindness and goodwill. In return she faced multiple smears and an increasing climate of hatred and intolerance. Yeah she has more money than many but she also has higher visibility and a bigger target on her back.
I don't blame her a bit for leaving. Anyone with a clear understanding of history and the resources to do so should do the same.
The only reason I don't is that I don't see anywhere in the world as safe from the the propaganda-fuelled morons rolling the fascist wave over everyone else.
Ellen's probably buying herself enough time.

[rambler_american]

6. They're lucky

They have the means to leave.

[Think. Again.]

8. That was my first though...

...so many of us will be trapped in the U.S., not by choice.

[DFW]

9. It's their decision, and they have the means to do so.

I moved years ago, but for the dual reason that my wife wants to continue to live in her own country (Germany) and my job takes me to a different country every day anyway, so who cares where I start out from in the morning? (coming to you live and in color today from icy and snowy suburban Sprout City in Belgium)

As it happens, after 40 years we still take our main summer vacation on the outer tip of Cape Cod. It's a pain in the ass to get there from Düsseldorf, but we make the trek every year because we love the place. Great food, great weather, great people. We're only there for a stay of three to five weeks a year, but are welcomed back by a circle of locals as if we were long-term residents who had been on an extended stay abroad. Our younger daughter wasn't even born when we went there the first time. She now comes at least every other year with her own children. Our elder daughter lives in New York, and doesn't miss a single year without staying with us for at least a week. It gets in your blood. We want to see places like Australia and New Zealand, but we just can't find the time yet. Hell, we haven't even made it to Ireland or Scotland yet, and they are less than a two hour flight from us. But we need our Cape Cod fix like a junkie needs his needle.

[DFW]

14. We so very much agree!!!

We even put up with the exorbitant parking fees to spend time there. If the money serves to help the year round economy of P-Town, well what better thing to blow money on? Not many small places are able to keep their character that way. There are two times of the year when we say, "don't look at the cost, look at the reward." One of them is our summer stay on the Outer Cape. The time is approaching when we won't be able to do this any more. But we're not there yet.

[Oopsie Daisy]

10. I'm jealous. I wish we could afford to do that. I wish them both much happiness.

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I wonder if they want to keep their US citizenship, or become dual-nationals, or become UK citizens.

[SomewhereInTheMiddle]

12. De Rossi has dual US/Aussie citizenship already

which means she has a Commonwealth passport and can stay in the UK indefinitely (I believe). As her wife Ellen may have some sort of special right to stay as well.

[rambler_american]

11. My wife and Ibought some land in New Brunswick, CA

during the GWB administration. About two acres on a cliff overlooking the Bay of Fundy. On a clear day we could see NS. Financial issues forced us to sell, sadly. Now, Canada has passed a law that non Canadians are not allowed to buy property until January, 2027. I guess we will stay put in NH the rest of our lives. (We are both 80).

[Delphinus]

15. So sorry

you had to sell - I've wanted to visit that area of Canada for many years.

May you enjoy the rest of your days.

[bdamomma]

26. Wow

that is interesting that non Canadians are not allowed to buy property until 2027. Looking out for their own interests I guess. But, NH is lovely, stay safe.

[Disaffected]

47. Yeah, there is a housing crunch here.

Biggest issue is non-Canadians who buy residences here with no immediate intent to live in them or, rent them. Hong Kong citizens are particularly known for this - I have one such residence down the road that has been unoccupied for three years now.

[rambler_american]

78. Oh I love NH

My wish is that Canada would annex the Northeast and ad it to the Maritimes.

[bdamomma]

79. I know

that's not the 1st time I have heard that. I wish it could be done.

[Passages]

16. Bye.

Enjoy your mansion in Europe.


Working people in America will once again do the hard work.

[Bettie]

17. As I've been saying

the wealthy don't have to worry. They can leave and be welcomed almost anywhere.

The rest of us just have to hope it isn't as bad (worse?) as it is looking.

[BBbats]

18. A lot of People are leaving.

I work in a small music shop in Philadelphia PA.(Musical Instruments,CDs,Vinyl records.)
All this week people have been "donating" CDs & records. There's also been a major upswing in calls from people looking to sell music gear & instruments. This isn't unusual right before Christmas but I've been working here for many years & never fielded this many calls to sell.
They all tell me their moving or trying to move out of the US. A lot of "For Sale" signs popping up on a lot more brownstones & homes in the last week or so. This is ,or was,A desirable cool neighborhood. Its unusual to see what looks like the beginning of a mass exodus. People are leaving. Especially Gays.

[Sympthsical]

20. And nothing of value was lost

Anyone catch that recent comedy special?

Not great person remains completely unaware that they are not great.

It's a shame. I loved Ellen as a teenager - even bought her book. She was a formative touchstone for me as a gay youth.

And then she became, well . . . what she became.

[MineralMan]

21. Some People Have the Means to Move Like That.

Most do not. I'm sorry, but I cannot celebrate those who have the means to move away and leave the rest behind.

It's nice for Ellen and her partner, but they're wealthy and have the means.

[orangecrush]

30. I think it's a good barometer

If just how bad this is going to be.

When people of means aren't just talking about it, but are really doing it.

[MineralMan]

45. Maybe. However, they also have the means to reverse the decision.

Most of us do not.

Ellen has suffered a lot of degradation from the Right. That's likely to get worse, I'm afraid. I have no issue with her decision, but it's unfortunate that so many others cannot make the same choice.

[Borogove]

22. My wife and I visited the Cotswolds back in 1992.

We were charmed by the beauty of the area. Would move there in a second if we could.

[Celerity]

33. How the Cotswolds became the billionaires' new playground

It already has private clubs and A-list spas. But just when you thought north Oxfordshire couldn’t get any more luxe, along comes a super-rich American with big plans

https://www.thetimes.com/life-style/property-home/article/cotswolds-luxury-homes-members-clubs-rh-nbdljjrhj

https://archive.ph/mklh3

Wednesday June 14 2023


From left: Actor Regé-Jean Page, left, with the CEO of US interiors giant RH, Gary Friedman, at the brand’s UK launch at Aynho Park earlier this month; the exterior at Aynho GETTY IMAGES

A lavish, bucolic bacchanal straight out of Baz Lurhmann’s The Great Gatsby movie, the party is firing now. It’s early June, DJ Idris Elba is on the decks with Pete Tong, Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi joining him in the booth, and the sound system is pumping out Kylie’s Padam Padam summer 2023 anthem. There’s a huge raised dancefloor with a negroni bar on one side and martini mixology team on the other. Canapés are flowing from a kitchen teeming with chefs.

This isn’t a party in Los Angeles or Miami. We are instead looking over Capability Brown-landscaped gardens and closely mown ha-has as herds of deer graze in the green and pleasant distance. Architect John Pawson and former Tory party co-chairman Ben Elliot are admiring Sir John Soane’s mastery of symmetry, scale and light as Regé-Jean Page from Bridgerton, Sydney Sweeney from The Handmaid’s Tale and Avatar superstar Zoe Saldaña step from fleets of black limos onthe gravel apron outside, into the 17th-century house’s grand entrance.

Welcome to Aynho Park, north Oxfordshire, a handy nine miles from Soho Farmhouse and 20 miles from the Daylesford Organic farm shop, meeting place for anyone enjoying the Cotswolds One Percenter Parcs experience. The estate, which under its previous owners played host toJade Jagger’s wedding in 2012 and Noel Gallagher’s 50th birthday in 2017, has been revamped and jet-setted by new California-based billionaire owners.

The house, once Aynhoe Park, is now called the Gallery at Aynho Park, taking the name of the quiet village next door. At a cost that may be more than £50 million, the house has been transformed into an immaculately rendered temple to aspirant taupe and white, its high and airy halls and drawing rooms home to precisely curated exhibitions of cabinets in engineered teak and forged bronze, kayak-sized day beds, smoothly finished tall boys, marble-topped drawers and console tables and section sofas of rich, clean-lined, low-profile modernism. Instead of bright colours, there are 50 shades of grey and even more variations on white.

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The grade II listed members’ club and hotel, Estelle Manor


Friedman with his wife, Bella Hunter, and Idris Elba, who deejayed at the RH launch


The Orangery restaurant at Aynho


The living room at the Estelle Manor private members’ club


Friedman in Aynho’s architecture and design library


Daylesford Organic’s farm shop


A lakeside villa at John Hitchcox’s upscale development, the Lakes by Yoo


The bar and dining area at Soho Farmhouse

[Borogove]

46. Wow, it sure has changed.

I remember enchanting villages such as Bibury and Chipping Camden. God, how I despise billionaires. They ruin everything.

[niyad]

66. Thank you, as always, for such fascinating information and images.

[Celerity]

80. Awww. Thanks for that, Niyad. I aways enjoy your posts as well.

[bdamomma]

23. of course

those who have monetary means will leave the US.

Leaves the question, who amongst us is ready to defend democracy???

[orangecrush]

28. Defend what?

Democracy?

It won't be after this.

[bdamomma]

36. Okay

but why do this

What about all those who fought and died for us along the way, should their deaths be in vain? Just my 2 cents.

[orangecrush]

42. If you decided to fight facism

In occupied France or in Germany during WW2, you didn't do it openly.

You had to try to make contact with Allied agents, or a resistance cell, an extreme risk.

And if you succeeded, your average life expectancy was about 3 months.

[Jilly_in_VA]

55. If you know

that you are going to be part of the persecuted class, why not go? Thousands of Jews left Germany after Hitler rose to power. Why wouldn't thousands of LBGTQIA+ people leave the US after Shitler rises to power, assuming they can find a way to get out? It's hard to blame them. I don't have much, but I would help support my granddaughter financially if she wants to leave.

[orangecrush]

27. Last one to leave please turn out the lights.

[Prairie Gates]

29. Hopes may rise on the Grasmere...

[milestogo]

35. A solution to fascism for the very rich.

[orangecrush]

43. I would not berate Jews

Who saw what was coming down the pike for fleeing Germany if they had the means.

[milestogo]

49. I didn't berate anyone.

[orangecrush]

53. "criticize"

Sorry.

[Hekate]

74. I sure wouldn't. From the time I was born, my parents were close friends with a family that...

…left Vienna for France with what they could carry. They were not the only ones I knew as a child and as an adult.

If you are a minority and have a big ol’ target on your back, go with my blessing.

[hunter]

50. The not-so-wealthy can walk away or die trying.

My ancestors left Europe in times when everything was turning to shit there. Some of them might not have survived if they'd stayed.

The U.S.A. wasn't their land of golden opportunity, it was a land of refuge.

I have a Southern ancestor who saw the Civil War coming, along with the inevitability of conscription, so he just started walking to Oregon. His intent was not much beyond saving his own skin, and Oregon was probably attractive to him because it was "whites only" then. But he did deny the Confederacy a soldier.

My family doesn't have any Civil War history besides that, in spite of them being here in the U.S.A. at the time. Whenever things got too uncomfortable for them politically, or they found themselves in legal binds or heading for bankruptcy, they'd head west into the wilderness, just as their ancestors had crossed the Atlantic.

My grandparents fought the Nazi and Japanese empires in their own ways. My dad's dad was an Army Air Force officer and engineer who never ever talked about his war time service. He was later an engineer for the Apollo project. He would talk about that. My dad's mom worked for the USO. My mom's parents were pacifists. Their compromise was working as West Coast shipyard welders, building and repairing Liberty and Victory ships. They would not build weapons.

I sometimes wonder how my grandparents would have fared if the U.S.A. had lost the war, as depicted in Philip K. Dick's The Man in the High Castle. They probably would have vanished into the Rocky Mountain States to live with relatives.

So I can't dis Ellen for leaving, it's in my blood too. On the other hand, England might not be the political sanctuary people think it is, except that there are fewer heavily armed crazies lurking in the shadows. Not getting shot when vile right wing Christians and politicians have targeted you is always a good life plan.

[milestogo]

52. Three of my grandparents also left Europe and came to the US for a better life.

It was before WWI. They were all leaving situations of desperate poverty. They wanted a better life and they got one here.

My grandfather left Denmark when he was 16 and went to the Virgin Islands, later to the US. He left home by himself and never went back.

[Skittles]

72. yup

that is exactly what it is

[surfered]

39. The Cotswolds are beautiful, though we've never been in winter

[Marthe48]

44. I imagine other prominant people will go

and others who can afford to leave.
I'd rather see the blue states secede, as bad as that sounds. I saw a map drawn in 2004 called the United States of Canada and it cheered me up. Before I saw that map, I couldn't think of a way that blue states could separate from the mess in the middle.

I want Democracy to survive, however it can. If doesn't look like American democracy will survive with the magat millstone dragging it down.

I would like to move out, but I'm 72. Just getting off this street or out of this town is daunting. I can't deal with being surrounded by traitors who sold my country up the river. I guess I should be glad that on the surface, I'll be safe, but I'm worried about losing SS and Medicare. Worried about all of my loved ones.

[usonian]

48. The rich can afford to leave, to avoid devastation by the rich.

That says something.

[jalan48]

56. Women and children first or everyone for themselves?

[MontanaMama]

57. Lots of rumors about Ellen Degeneres

and her friendship with Sean Combs as the reason she left the country. I first heard this from Dr. Leslie Dobson, forensic psychologist. I really really hope that’s not true.

[soandso]

65. Oh!

That could be the real reason because that shitstorm is about to blow up. It would be convenient to use Trump as the reason for leaving. I personally don't believe anyone but those in the country illegally have anything to worry about, especially not the rich.

[Takket]

60. Must be nice to have enough money to be allowed to do that

[soandso]

61. I'd say able not "allowed"

Anyone can up and move if they can afford it. Ellen is also a property addict and buys whatever she likes.

[LPBBEAR]

63. There are stories from pre WW2 Germany and Europe

from and about those who failed to heed the warnings about Hitler. I say good for her and I wish I had the money to do the same.

[Cirsium]

64. Flee, fight, or freeze

Who can judge another for the path they choose? Many of the biggest talkers are not such big fighters when the moment arrives. "Invincible in the parlor, invisible on the battlefield."

Should people not have fled Germany and other European countries in the 30s?

The Refugee Map

Supported by Designated Development Funding from Arts Council England, our Refugee Map represents part of The Wiener Holocaust Library's archives. This site includes a selection of our rich collections of Family Papers, including handwritten diaries, photo albums, identity and emigration papers, Red Cross letters and recorded interviews. These documents reveal and preserve the stories of the individuals and families that fled Nazi persecution and antisemitism in the years before, during and after the Second World War.

Founded by Dr Alfred Wiener in 1933, The Wiener Holocaust Library is one of the world’s leading and most extensive archives on the Holocaust and Nazi-era. We are dedicated to support research, learning, teaching and advocacy about the Holocaust and genocide, their causes and consequences.

https://www.refugeemap.org/

Albert Einstein’s legacy as a refugee

Albert Einstein is known as a genius, physicist and Nobel Laureate. While his theory of relativity changed the world, it wasn’t his only legacy. He was also a refugee and humanitarian, having inspired the founding of the organization that became the International Rescue Committee.

...

Einstein was already a famous physicist by the time Adolf Hitler rose to power in 1933. As a German Jew, however, his civil liberties were suspended and he was barred from resuming his professorship at the Prussian Academy of Sciences in Berlin. Nazis also raided his property and burned his books....

In July 1933, upon Einstein’s request, a committee of 51 American artists, intellectuals and political leaders came together to form the International Relief Association. Among them were the philosopher John Dewey, the writer John Dos Passos, and the theologian Reinhold Niebuhr. Other prominent citizens, even including First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt, soon joined the effort.

https://www.rescue.org/article/albert-einsteins-legacy-refugee

The scientists who escaped the Nazis

"My parents were pretty sure this was a one-way journey."

When Gustav Born's family were advised in early 1933 that it was time to leave Nazi-controlled Germany, it was from a good authority. The advice was from Albert Einstein, who told his friend and fellow scientist Max Born to "leave immediately" with his family while they were still able to travel.

The economist William Beveridge had set up the Academic Assistance Council, with the aim of rescuing Jewish and politically vulnerable academics.It was an organisation that would help 1,500 academics escape Germany and continue their research work in safety in Britain. It was quickly backed by academics whose names now read like a row of text books - J B S Haldane, John Maynard Keynes, Ernest Rutherford, G M Trevelyan and the poet A E Housman.

Refugee Nobel Laureates

Nobel prize winners: Prof H A Bethe, Prof M Born, Sir Ernst Chain, Prof M Delbruck, Prof D Gabor, Dr G Herzberg, Prof J Heyrovsky, Sir Bernard Katz, Sir Hans Krebs, Dr F Lipmann, Prof O Loewi, Prof S Luria, Prof S Ochoa, Dr M Perutz, Prof J Polanyi, Prof E Segre

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23261289

Refugees Fleeing Nazi Germany Reshaped Hollywood.

The look, the sound, and the speech of Hollywood’s Golden Age did not originate in Hollywood. Much of it came from Europe, through the work of successive waves of immigrants during the first half of the 20th century. The last several of those waves brought a group of traumatized artists who were lucky enough to escape Hitler’s death trains and extermination camps. All were antifascists; a few were Communists; most were Jews. These were Hitler’s gift to America — prodigious individuals who enriched the film culture and the intellectual life of our nation, and whose influence continues to resonate. Plenty of writers have explored the ways these refugees, exiles and émigrés managed to escape from Europe. Fewer have told about the Americans who had the courage to take them in. Of those heroic citizens, at the top of the list for her uncompromising conviction and generosity, was a too-often-forgotten screenwriter in Santa Monica named Salka Viertel.

Salka Viertel was a recently naturalized American when Hitler’s war began, having arrived from Berlin on a visitor visa in Hollywood with her husband during one of the earlier waves of emigrating filmmakers, in 1928. She became a proud and grateful U.S. citizen in February of 1939, only months before the official outbreak of war in Europe on Sept. 1 of that year. It was her very Europeanness that had alerted her early on to the growing conflagration across the Atlantic, well before Hitler took power in 1933. She had been raised in a well-heeled Jewish family in a garrison town in Galicia called Sambor, on the fringes of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, where she’d been born in 1889. And she came of age as an actress on the stages of many European cities, most notably Weimar-era Berlin. Long before the advent of National Socialism made anti-Semitism official state policy in Germany, Salka Viertel was quite familiar with its lethal intentions. Thus after 1933 she was extra sympathetic to the attempts of the panicked human beings who began to launch themselves desperately, in any way they could, toward the possibility of safety in America.

https://time.com/5752128/salka-viertel-hollywood-refugees/

[Ilsa]

68. Wow, the Cotswolds. Good for them. I envy

their ability to do this. I hope they'll be happy there.

[Ilsa]

69. They purchased the home in October before the election. nt

[soandso]

70. Interesting

So, maybe it really is something to do with Diddy.

[SocialDemocrat61]

76. A lot of Ellen's former employees

are probably celebrating this