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choie

(4,507 posts)
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 12:43 PM 18 hrs ago

Can you imagine the jury that rendered a verdict

against that orange POS learning that it was all for naught? FUCK all the chicken shit politicians, lawyers (of both parties) corporate shill media and the AG who brought us to this point.

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Can you imagine the jury that rendered a verdict (Original Post) choie 18 hrs ago OP
So many people risked a great deal trying to bring Trump to justice. Irish_Dem 18 hrs ago #1
Truly, those jurors risked their lives, or at least their future peace, by serving on that jury. BComplex 18 hrs ago #2
There is certainly that tail-end risk Nasruddin 17 hrs ago #11
Yes orangecrush 10 hrs ago #30
I'm sure they are disappointed after spending the time and effort on the case MichMan 18 hrs ago #3
That case should have never been tried. Solomon 17 hrs ago #13
The point is that a jury was seated, took time out of their lives and after deliberations came up with a verdict MichMan 17 hrs ago #15
This sends a message to juries that if you have money/and or influence, you can still go FREE even if riversedge 12 hrs ago #28
The Smollet jurors are in danger? dpibel 15 hrs ago #24
And the message this sends to Trump is that threats work and he will never be held accountable for any crime. Lonestarblue 18 hrs ago #4
Don't forget the bone saw (NT) Otto_Harper 18 hrs ago #5
Threats certainly worked against the former 13-year-old child he raped. Rhiagel 12 hrs ago #27
A Medal of Freedom for each of them. Sneederbunk 18 hrs ago #6
Their lives could still be in danger. Hope22 17 hrs ago #7
It was a giant waste of human effort and endangered many people. Hope22 17 hrs ago #8
Respectfully, I think this article may be missing the point David Boyle 17 hrs ago #9
So he gets to do this forever? How often has he called for his convictions to be vacated travelingthrulife 17 hrs ago #16
Justice is slow sometimes... David Boyle 15 hrs ago #22
The sentencing has been postponed indefinitely. choie 15 hrs ago #21
Bondi will work her ass off to try and find their names. NoMoreRepugs 17 hrs ago #10
Hopefully not too long. David Boyle 15 hrs ago #23
AG Garland said at the beginning of T***p's federal legal problems: LastLiberal in PalmSprings 17 hrs ago #12
He forgot to add... "In certain income classes" yourout 13 hrs ago #26
It was not all for naught. barbtries 17 hrs ago #14
One justice system for the rich and powerful Retrograde 17 hrs ago #17
Law & Order ? Nigrum Cattus 16 hrs ago #18
We all know Trump is crooked, but a Jury is the finder of fact and they determined surfered 16 hrs ago #19
Not just that, he conspired with co-conspirators to defraud voters Justice matters. 7 hrs ago #31
Yes, I am bitter about Garland's role in this. Pres. Biden should fire his a&& anyways, even being as close as it is to SWBTATTReg 16 hrs ago #20
F**k the Republicans drmeow 13 hrs ago #25
I was thinking about this very thing today DaBronx 12 hrs ago #29

Irish_Dem

(57,545 posts)
1. So many people risked a great deal trying to bring Trump to justice.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 12:45 PM
18 hrs ago

While others folded like lawn chairs.

BComplex

(9,078 posts)
2. Truly, those jurors risked their lives, or at least their future peace, by serving on that jury.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 12:47 PM
18 hrs ago

This country needs a serious makeover. If we're not going to hold the upper classes to the same standards of justice, there is no justice.

orangecrush

(21,796 posts)
30. Yes
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 09:20 PM
10 hrs ago

MAGATS always enjoy terrorizing those they perceive as weak.

Until they do it to the wrong person.

MichMan

(13,194 posts)
3. I'm sure they are disappointed after spending the time and effort on the case
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 12:55 PM
18 hrs ago

Same as the Jussie Smollet jury is likely feeling this week.

Solomon

(12,471 posts)
13. That case should have never been tried.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:20 PM
17 hrs ago

The government made a deal with him that he complied with. Then they prosecuted him anyway. You and I may not have liked the deal, but a deal is a deal.

Hunter Biden was almost exactly the same in terms of the fact that a deal was made and Hunter complied. However, in his case, the judge wouldn't agree to the deal, so it was never consummated.

MichMan

(13,194 posts)
15. The point is that a jury was seated, took time out of their lives and after deliberations came up with a verdict
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:24 PM
17 hrs ago

All for naught

riversedge

(73,132 posts)
28. This sends a message to juries that if you have money/and or influence, you can still go FREE even if
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 06:49 PM
12 hrs ago

you are found guilty. Actually, it sends a message to the world that this is how it is in the #USA.

dpibel

(3,325 posts)
24. The Smollet jurors are in danger?
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 04:35 PM
15 hrs ago

This is quite a lovely false equivalence.

Or do you actually believe that, were the Smollet jurors publicly identified, they would be subject to threats and calumny?

Lonestarblue

(11,827 posts)
4. And the message this sends to Trump is that threats work and he will never be held accountable for any crime.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 01:13 PM
18 hrs ago

I honesty believe that Trump could have someone he believes to be an enemy publicly tortured and beaten in the White House, and no one would do a thing.

Hope22

(2,873 posts)
8. It was a giant waste of human effort and endangered many people.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 01:47 PM
17 hrs ago

Justice was served at the trial. Honorable people did the hard things. The rest of the system collapsed around them.

David Boyle

(242 posts)
9. Respectfully, I think this article may be missing the point
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 01:48 PM
17 hrs ago
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-hush-money-trial-sentencing-canceled_n_6740aa43e4b078cce4af16fe

The case has not been dismissed; but Trump is allowed to argue that it should be. (It shouldn't, I think, but even the worst criminal has procedural rights to a "day in court" on various issues, etc.)

Just clearing that up. Thanks.

travelingthrulife

(702 posts)
16. So he gets to do this forever? How often has he called for his convictions to be vacated
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:26 PM
17 hrs ago

He has had days and days and days of court protection.

David Boyle

(242 posts)
22. Justice is slow sometimes...
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 04:23 PM
15 hrs ago

sadly enough.

But Bragg has to look like he's prosecuting fairly, and giving "the other side" their due process...

12. AG Garland said at the beginning of T***p's federal legal problems:
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:12 PM
17 hrs ago

that the law is applied equally to everyone.

Bullshit!


Have you noticed he doesn't say that anymore?

barbtries

(29,792 posts)
14. It was not all for naught.
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:22 PM
17 hrs ago

he was convicted of 34 felonies and that remains a historical fact.

that he'll have to wait until after he dies, yes, that stings a lot, and i was not on that jury.

Retrograde

(10,653 posts)
17. One justice system for the rich and powerful
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:33 PM
17 hrs ago

another lesser justice system for the rest of us.

Speaking of AGs, how are NY AG James' attempts to get Donnie and sons to pay up doing? Or Ms Carroll's defamation judgements? Will they also be "postponed" - i.e., shoved to a time when Donnie is not president (I think he'll either succumb to natural causes or deteriorate so badly that his family and cabinet can no longer ignore it). In other words, once more he gets off scott-free.

surfered

(3,116 posts)
19. We all know Trump is crooked, but a Jury is the finder of fact and they determined
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 02:53 PM
16 hrs ago

He falsified business records.

Justice matters.

(7,513 posts)
31. Not just that, he conspired with co-conspirators to defraud voters
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 11:46 PM
7 hrs ago

in order to try to win a Presidential election.

His co-conspirators were sentenced to prison time for conspiring with him to do that.

But he will probably either just get a probation or sing kumbaya before that.

That's not equal justice for all.

SWBTATTReg

(24,094 posts)
20. Yes, I am bitter about Garland's role in this. Pres. Biden should fire his a&& anyways, even being as close as it is to
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 03:39 PM
16 hrs ago

tRUMP taking over. Send a strong message to Garland that he's failed this Country.

drmeow

(5,283 posts)
25. F**k the Republicans
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 06:00 PM
13 hrs ago

for not voting to convict. Garland wouldn't matter as much if they been just a teeny tiny bit patriotic instead of greedy, power hungry, immoral f**ks.

DaBronx

(481 posts)
29. I was thinking about this very thing today
Fri Nov 22, 2024, 07:25 PM
12 hrs ago

And I came to the conclusion that each jury or jurors should sue the US Govt for obstruction of justice. I haven’t figured out the basis yet but I feel there is one. It is a form of false imprisonment. It is arguably obstruction of justice.
Help me out here, Professor Tribe!

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