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highplainsdem

(52,367 posts)
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 01:08 AM 5 hrs ago

Insanity. Some MAGAts think Mar-a-Lago is America's own Versailles, a new version of Camelot.

From a New Yorker article (which they're getting criticized for):

https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/donald-trumps-administration-hopefuls-descend-on-mar-a-lago

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The night before, the America First Policy Institute, a conservative think tank that is involved in the planning for Trump’s second term, had held a gala at Mar-a-Lago. Ric Grenell, Trump’s former Ambassador to Germany, attended despite having just been passed over for Secretary of State in favor of Marco Rubio. Musk and Javier Milei, Argentina’s President, spoke to the group. Milei, a libertarian who clones his dogs, was the first foreign leader Trump met with as President-elect. At the dinner, Trump was introduced by Sylvester Stallone, who compared him to Rocky Balboa. Rocky, Stallone said, “was going to go through a metamorphosis and change lives, just like President Trump. . . . I love mythology. This individual does not exist on this planet.” Trump, in a tuxedo, looking much more rested than he did when I last saw him, on Election Night, took the stage and spoke briefly about politics. “We’re conservative in this room, but we can understand the other side,” he said. “What we really are,” he said, calling out Tulsi Gabbard, Vivek Ramaswamy, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Elon Musk, Newt Gingrich, and Milei, are “people with common sense.”

Trump announced that his second term would usher in an era of opulence and glamour. The stock market had “gone through the roof” since the election. Then he told the crowd at Mar-a-Lago about the people he had seen around the country. “They just wanted hope,” he said. “They wanted something; they just didn’t want what they had. . . . When I went around, I heard something that was very interesting: the word ‘grocery.’ It’s sort of such a strange and simple, nice word, you know, ‘I’m going out for groceries today.’ . . . I tell a story about a woman, she got three apples, an old woman, she had three apples and she brought them up to the cash register and she looked at the woman and she said, ‘Is that the right price?’ and the woman said ‘Yes, Ma’am, I’m sorry, yes it is.’ And she said, ‘Oh that’s O.K., could you wait one minute?’ and she took one of the three apples and she brought it back to the refrigeration and she came back gently up to the cash register, and she paid for two apples instead of three.” Those days of scarcity were over, Trump said. When Mar-a-Lago was built, in 1927, for the socialite cereal heiress Marjorie Post, “it was a Roaring Twenties. We’re hotter now than they ever were in the Roaring Twenties, I believe. We’re going to be a lot hotter.”

For decades, Trump was shunned by the Palm Beach establishment. “The social elite of Palm Beach had regarded Trump as a vulgar interloper when he first came to the island,” Laurence Leamer writes, in “Mar-a-Lago: Inside the Gates of Power at Donald Trump’s Presidential Palace.” He had long wanted to remake Palm Beach society with Mar-a-Lago at its center. In 1993, he bused in models and Miami Dolphins cheerleaders for a “bachelor ball” on the same night as the Old Guard was at an International Red Cross charity benefit. Arguably, Trump’s first real political campaign was to attempt to persuade the Palm Beach Town Council to let him convert historic Mar-a-Lago into a club; he thought it was preposterous that he had to seek zoning approval for a property he owned. “Much of the origins of Donald Trump’s disdain toward what he considers the country’s entrenched, unresponsive political establishment originates in this experience in Palm Beach,” Leamer writes. When the club opened, Trump pretended that Princess Diana and Prince Charles, along with Steven Spielberg and Norman Mailer, were founding members. Three decades later, he had his own set of “counter-élites” at Mar-a-Lago. When I met Rick Lacey, the chairman of the Brevard County G.O.P., at Mar-a-Lago on Super Tuesday, he had told me that Trump’s resort was the closest thing America had to its own Versailles. I asked him last week about the group gathered there post-election. “I think we’re going to see a new version of Camelot—between friends, celebrities, powerful business people coming together, socializing and defining a new direction, just kind of a feel.”

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Insanity. Some MAGAts think Mar-a-Lago is America's own Versailles, a new version of Camelot. (Original Post) highplainsdem 5 hrs ago OP
The Republican financed corporate media creates these fallacies. live love laugh 4 hrs ago #1
Versailles canetoad 4 hrs ago #2
Scamalot. usonian 3 hrs ago #3
Dream on, jerks NJCher 3 hrs ago #4
To be fair, Versailles had plenty of spies from various places. DJ Synikus Makisimus 2 hrs ago #7
Woman could only afford 2 apples (on her weekly grocery shopping) KS Toronado 3 hrs ago #5
and think Elon's Bureau of Inefficiency MadameButterfly 2 hrs ago #8
They should learn from history. Tanuki 3 hrs ago #6
It does seem like Versailles and Camelot MadameButterfly 2 hrs ago #9
Mar-a-Lardo is more like the Czar's Livadia Palace and the Trump Crime Family (TCF) are America's Romanovs, C0RI0LANUS 2 hrs ago #10
Shows how ignorant, immature, irresponsible the MAGAs are. Irish_Dem 1 hr ago #11

NJCher

(37,883 posts)
4. Dream on, jerks
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 03:27 AM
3 hrs ago
a new version of Camelot—between friends, celebrities, powerful business people coming together, socializing and defining a new direction, just kind of a feel.”



All you’re going to get is more spies roaming the halls for unlocked bathrooms with top secret information falling out of cardboard boxes.

As far as “kind of a feel,” you’ve got any number of rapists looking to cop one.
7. To be fair, Versailles had plenty of spies from various places.
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 04:05 AM
2 hrs ago

They played a sizable role in the maintenance of Dutch independence, for example. And "women's rights" weren't a thing. The nobility Louis XIV gathered there rather routinely raped servants and other lowborn folks (full disclosure: of both sexes). Privileges of rank and all. It's not exactly the same thing. History doesn't repeat, but it does echo.

KS Toronado

(19,577 posts)
5. Woman could only afford 2 apples (on her weekly grocery shopping)
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 03:30 AM
3 hrs ago

so she had to take one back with tears in her eyes. Only MAGAts believe crap like that.

Tanuki

(15,314 posts)
6. They should learn from history.
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 03:39 AM
3 hrs ago
https://en.chateauversailles.fr/discover/history/great-characters/louis-xvi#a-learned-king

Louis XVI "was indecisive and reluctant to ratify the texts proclaiming the abolition of privileges and the Declaration of the Rights of Man, promulgated shortly after the storming of the Bastille on 14 July 1789. On 5 October 1789 a mob descended on Versailles and demanded that the royal family decamp to Paris. The King was transferred to the Tuileries Palace, before attempting to flee in June 1791. Arrested in Varennes, he was brought back to Paris. In 1792 he was tried by the revolutionaries. The monarchy was formally abolished, and “Year I” of the French Republic was declared. Louis XVI died at the guillotine on 21 January 1793. He was the last king to live at the Palace of Versailles, and the revolutionaries duly gave him the nickname “Louis the Last”.

MadameButterfly

(1,710 posts)
9. It does seem like Versailles and Camelot
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 04:11 AM
2 hrs ago

are ominous comparisons if you want to last. Versailles was an elite corrupt opulant era that needed to end. Camelot was an ideal that couldn't survive. Either way, both were about to end.

I wish the same on Trump and Trumpism.

Long live democracy.

C0RI0LANUS

(1,338 posts)
10. Mar-a-Lardo is more like the Czar's Livadia Palace and the Trump Crime Family (TCF) are America's Romanovs,
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 04:12 AM
2 hrs ago
but without the class.



Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livadia_Palace
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