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Jk23

(455 posts)
Mon Nov 25, 2024, 11:15 PM Nov 25

I think the Guardian has turned on us...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/25/biden-turkey-pardon-thanksgiving

Headline in today's paper "Lame duck Biden pardons Thanksgiving turkeys as the world burns."

The article is somehow even worse than the headline... I wonder if foreign progressives will be as protective of Biden and his legacy as American progressives have been.


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I think the Guardian has turned on us... (Original Post) Jk23 Nov 25 OP
That's just one whiny writer... Blue_Tires Nov 26 #1
I saw a list of the things NJCher Nov 26 #2
omg -- please -- where can i find that list??? nt orleans Nov 26 #4
People who aren't having their fantasies fulfilled are lashing out Sympthsical Nov 26 #3
I watch some, too NJCher Nov 26 #5
No. Celerity Nov 26 #6
The Guardian has its own agenda. Igel Nov 26 #7
They are an excellent news souce. milestogo Nov 26 #8

NJCher

(38,756 posts)
2. I saw a list of the things
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 01:30 AM
Nov 26

Biden has been working on and it was everything we could ask for to f#(% trump up. It was awesome and made me feel so good.

I’m sorry The Guardian screwed up like this. I am going to try to find it and I will send them the list.

Sympthsical

(10,411 posts)
3. People who aren't having their fantasies fulfilled are lashing out
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 01:45 AM
Nov 26

If you watch the conspiracy theory spaces (which I do, because - fun), they're chock full of anti-Democratic sentiment now.

And there are plenty of people seeding the anti-Democratic sentiment. "Why isn't the President using the magical wand given him? It's because he doesn't care. None of them do!"

It's bizarre, because I'm more than comfortable being critical of the party when I feel it warranted, but now I'm in a position where I'm constantly pointing out these attacks on Democrats wrought from an almost prolonged tantrum (and some trollish goading, no doubt). They're mad, and they're going to get mad at whoever's nearby, whether it makes any sense to or not.

Division within the party is helpful to Republicans right now, and there are plenty of people eager to stoke it. Some because of bad faith motivations. Some because they're in their, "I didn't get what I wanted, so burn it all down" phase (the stuff about tormenting the poor and minorities has been frankly bizarre), and some who are just pissed off that some of us, including our party leaders, actually meant it when we said democracy should be a thing and authoritarianism is kind of bad.

I hope this peters out relatively soon. It's seriously borderline unbearable to watch adults act like this. Reality-based. I miss that shit.

NJCher

(38,756 posts)
5. I watch some, too
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 04:11 AM
Nov 26

But I’m not seeing what you see. I’ve seen maybe one comment like what you’re describing. Nothing at all like the burn it all down phase you mention.

Igel

(36,552 posts)
7. The Guardian has its own agenda.
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 11:18 AM
Nov 26

It is fairly progressive. In the end, the issues matter more for them--Gaza, Ukraine, inequality, etc.--than being US-partisan in protecting Biden's legacy.

The Guardian is British and progressive, not partisan in protecting a US political party. He's lame duck; but they also disagree with some of his policies and see no point in lock-step protecting him or his legacy.

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