My MAGA neighbor invited me over to watch college football

[maxrandb]

I told him; "no, maybe in a couple of years, if we haven't become a fascist, police state hellscape, I might accept, but until then, it's best you stay on your side of the fence, and I'll stay on mine."

I think he might have been offended.

[Glorfindel]

1. Seems to me you handled the situation with great tact and delicacy.

Your MAGA neighbor has no business being offended.

[Tesha]

2. It's time they hear this stuff!

Over and over we placate and paste a false smile…
they need to hear that they’ve f’d us over!

And that we’re not letting it go!.

(Oh dear, and now I sound angry)

[brush]

31. Yeah, he seems to think nothing's wrong that they voted for...

TSF who tried to overthrow the country.

[proud patriot]

3. very respectful IMO

I must do the same in a week when I travel to NV/AZ with my liberal mom and step dad
to attend the Senior Olympics .

I will have to face my Evagelical Crispy "christian" Veteran
Uncle who thanked God for Trump's re election .

I will have to face my Cousins Daughters who are
1) 2 are pro choice maga voters
2) one has fallen prey to the evangelical crispy fried "christianity through her now
husband father of her children's effort to win her back by getting sober. While I'm
thankful for his sobriety seeing pics on facebook of their 5 yr old son shooting a gun
at a church retreat/function absolutely breaks my heart .

I love my Cousin I will always love my cousin as she is the closest thing I have to a sister .
After the election I had to process my RAGE at the fact that she raised Magats . I'm still
processing that.

I'm on my 116th day of Sobriety from booze (still smoke pot with rx) I stayed sober
through the the election . I'm thankful I'll be clear headed going to this family reuion.

and Go Team Kaine at the Senior Olympics

[Evolve Dammit]

10. Great job on your part being sober through the election. Best wishes for Senior Olympics. "Crispy." Sounds right.

[proud patriot]

50. Thanks

[Clouds Passing]

73. 116 is a good day

[proud patriot]

81. indeed

[bif]

75. Kudos on the sobriety!

I'm just over 6 years in. If you ever need some positive reinforcement, I highly recommend SMART meetings.

[proud patriot]

80. Thank you

[erronis]

4. Does your neighbor understand normal logic? That's not a strong point of the magat crowd.

Frequently when they are confronted with a cognitive dissonance situation, they'll just reach for a nearby weapon.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

8. They get emotional when explanations are not simple enough for them to understand. There's lots they don't understand.nt

[brush]

35. Not the sharpest tools in the shed.

[Unladen Swallow]

5. Unless they are all in my face with it,

I do not let politics get in the way of family, friends, or neighbors. I try to just leave the topics alone, when possible.

[Irish_Dem]

6. Christmas before last, a Dem neighbor went to another neighbor's Christmas party.

The neighbor hosting the party was MAGA with many MAGA guests.
They all started laughing and making fun of Paul Pelosi almost getting killed by the intruder with a hammer.

My Dem neighbor was horrified and never attended any more parties at that house.
I have nothing to do with that neighbor now.

[Evolve Dammit]

12. That is sick. Would have done same, but not before telling them in no uncertain terms how disgusting they are. nt

[Irish_Dem]

14. My friend just left and never went back.

I would have said my say before I left for sure.

[mgardener]

17. Me too

I will not be silent any more

[Irish_Dem]

25. We are too damn polite for our own good.

[Evolve Dammit]

19. It's sad we're we have devolved to. Chimps and Gorillas.

[Irish_Dem]

26. We are de-evolving. Your user name has never been more timely.

[Evolve Dammit]

27. I wish it was heading in the other direction.

[Irish_Dem]

29. We are in warp drive back to the 19th century.

I took all of our progress for granted.

[niyad]

56. More like 17th.

[Irish_Dem]

63. Yes pregnant women are being metaphorically burned at the stake.

Yes we are not even up to 19th century standards.

[Evolve Dammit]

61. The world must be in disbelief

[Irish_Dem]

85. I'm living it and I am in disbelief.

[Evolve Dammit]

86. Yeah. Same

[yardwork]

69. To me, that's the dividing line.

Once somebody says something hateful, that's it.

[Tickle]

28. My brother is a maga

We talk everyday. I sorta understand why he voted the way he did. He thinks things will be rosey. I hope they will to, but I don't think so.

[Mr. Mustard 2023]

66. You Know MAGA Who Don't Try to "Own the Lib"?

I don't.

Every freaking MAGA I know or known in my life love to needle me, and I gave it right back. My male in laws listen are Fox Propaganda & Republicon Hate Radio junkies. Although I cut them off 5 years ago, after 16 years of standing up to them during holidays, I despise them now.

I do NOT have to pretend to like them. I do NOT have to pretend to respect them.

Choose your friends wisely. You're known by the company you keep. There's plenty of adages trying to warn us about unreliable or slovenly people, yet we're told we must reach out to MAGA Republicons and the answer is no. I tried that for years, and all it got me was many wasted days.

[Callie1979]

87. I do; but then again I dont think they consider themselves MAGA

They just voted for trump
But I also live in an area thats probably 75% red. I cant avoid being around them or I'd be a hermit.

[robleb]

7. You're much nicer and more of a gentleman than me...

my response would have been Fvk Trump and Fvk everyone who voted for him. (period)

[calimary]

9. Just figure it this way: there are consequences for bad behavior.

And that is all.

[OldBaldy1701E]

11. You will see more of this.

Now that they are 'on top', they want to act like we are the problem and that we are the ones acting like children.

I am not going to fall for their agenda and I hope no one else does. Like I once told a police officer who was saying something about 'respect the badge' just because it is the badge. I replied that 'respect was earned, not bestowed' (Thank you, Counselor Troi!).

He was not too thrilled about that.

Along that same line, these rethugs now want to act like they did not behave even worse when they were the ones who felt like they were on the bottom. Taking a lead from that orange gibbon, who is trying to rewrite history as we speak.

It won't work on me.

[maxrandb]

62. Someone once told me

"You shouldn't give anyone something they didn't earn...and that includes respect"

[kerry-is-my-prez]

13. I had a neighbor invite me over to watch a movie. The husband used the "N" word.

And I blurted out “oh my God, you’re a racist!” They bent themselves into pretzels trying to deny it. Last time I went to their house. The neighbor kept trying to win me over too.

[Evolve Dammit]

20. Good for you.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

79. I had three friends who kept using the n-word even though I asked them not to.

Actually, they used it because I asked them not to.

Like I said, I had three friends.

[Melon]

93. How do you use the "N" word during a movie invite?..

“ Would you two N*****s like to watch a movie with my wife and I?”

Crazy world…

[chouchou]

15. I have friends here in Florida. My friends also have friends that lean toward the right-wing side.

Whenever I'm in a situation where a MAGA is talking trash, I put on my "Acting personality"
I imagine I'm on-set with other actors and go-with-the-script.
It's rather interesting and one learns a lot about strange, confused people. For what it's worth...

[kerry-is-my-prez]

21. I'm trying to figure them out in order to be able to fight.

[Hope22]

32. It's a moving target

Whatever soup FOX is serving becomes their brain. It could even conflict with yesterday’s message. No worry. Two things to know…they love to pick maliciously at others to feel big themselves and they lie 100%.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

54. That is a good start...

[chouchou]

53. That works also. (My dear husband got into a tuff with a Maga...my sweetheart has a great right-cross)

[Southern_gent]

16. Confrontation

Being confrontational like that might actually serve to hurt the cause. When our side responds with hostility, it can push people further into their own beliefs rather than opening the door for understanding or dialogue. If your goal is to stand against things like division or extremism, acting divisively yourself only adds to the problem. A simple, polite decline, without the political edge can be fat more effective in keeping the peace and showing that we value civility over conflict. Sometimes, how we treat others can say more about our values than any political stance.

[Dan]

36. Yes, you have a point there

People that supported the attempted overthrowing of the government need our understanding so that we can keep the peace.

Once their Project 2025 is in place, we should smile to maintain civility.

Even when they plan to eliminate our rights to further their goals we should not add to the problem by acting divisively.

Maybe you have a point, but question - at what point should we decide to defend ourselves? Before or after we are in the camps?

[proud patriot]

82. ding ding ding

we have a winner

[Scrivener7]

39. No. I don't necessarily value civility over conflict anymore. My values are that I have

no respect for racist, sexist fascists, and I have no intention of coddling them or trying to make them feel OK about their vile choices.

[Southern_gent]

78. Long suffering

Well, if all you intend on doing is being confrontational, Democratic Party may end up out of the White House for a very long time. You see, somebody who voted for Trump is gonna have to vote for the dem next time to have a Democratic president and we sure aren’t going to convince them to do that your way

[proud patriot]

84. smallest majority in Congress ever . pukes need Dems

to pass anything . they need to compromise with us and not the other way around .
Dems have already took steps to compormise it's pukes turn .

and don't worry because many trump voters believed trump cares about them will find out
that he only cares about $$$$$$$$$ and cruelty .

how is trump going to keep voters when all of his promises are broken, and prices and
inflation go up under his project 2025 plans to crash the economy .

I personally know Women who are pro choice yet somehow believed trump
is too and voted for him. Women will abandon him in droves when the national
abortion ban happens .

Bending the knee to Bullies is NEVER AN OPTION !

[Scrivener7]

91. Your post exhibits a deep misunderstanding about how we win elections. But you do you.

[hatrack]

68. "Mutzen ab!!"

Yes, let's be sure to tug our forelocks, and doff our caps, and never, ever, ever ever, ever, ever respond to the provocations and spew of inflammatory dolts with anything that might be "confrontational".

[Sundance1220]

70. Magats consider any civility nothing but weakness

I've had it with them. I just say "you voted for a rapist" and then I walk away.

[mercuryblues]

92. So when A MAGA

told me I should die because my political views were fucked up, I should have said, you are right, them slit my wrists to make him happy?

Who knew equal right could set off a potbellied megatron?

[nini]

94. Never play nice with fascists

The sooner we accept that's what they are and the hell they'd inflict on the rest of us, the sooner they need to be called out and kicked to rhe curb.

[womanofthehills]

18. I would have gone

You could always end up having an emergency where a close neighbor would help. Happy neighbors make for better neighborhoods. I always want to feel comfortable in my neighborhood- I disagree with some neighbors, but because I live way out in the country- we need each other and I go out of my way to be nice.

[samnsara]

24. same here. Our neighbors hung a big ol trump sign on their barn

..so i planted a 'jesus loves you' sign and a 'Love thy neighbor' sigh on posts on our ( connecting) driveway...the trump sign came down but i kept mine up. youre right... we may NEED those people some day and i live 12 miles from town in the forest and these trumpers USED to be our good friends. They morphed into horrid folk but i still need to keep my options open.. They did warn me of a cougar nearby however so they still have some sense of decency.

And ya never know if someone is reaching out because they are lonely and needing someone.

[GusBob]

51. Rural folks

The poster has profanely expounded on his opinion of rural folks on numerous occasions

He hates them too

[maxrandb]

64. The only thing I hate

is fascists, racists, misogynists and white supremacists.

You can find those folks in both rural and urban areas.

There is a glaring difference between our two major political parties. Let me see if I can....ONCE AGAIN...illustrate it.

Donnie Dipshit is the closest thing to an American Hitler/Putin that I have ever seen in my 7 decades on this planet.

He is a serial sexual abuser and degrader of women.

He is a felon.

He is a conman.

He is a racist and a bigot.

He is, perhaps, the most deeply ignorant, incurious and unserious person that mankind has ever produced.

The only thing that gives me hope is this: if we do descend into fascism, it will be the stupidest and most incompetent fascism in the history of the world.

The present Democratic Party would NEVER put such a vile human being forward.

In fact, if a Democratic politician ever used the term; "poisoning the blood of our country"; the Democratic Party would drag him off the stage in a straightjacket.

My MAGA neighbor and the rest of Donnie Dipshits voters, looked over the menu and ordered the "Shit-Sandwich".

I have no intention of sharing their meal.

[TomCADem]

22. I Disagree With Progressives Refusing to Engage With Non-Like Minded People

There was once a time when Progressives were the ones who were on the cutting edge of using all available avenues to share progressives ideas at the grass roots level.

Now, it seems that the trend is to hide out in our safe spaces like this Board while we scapegoat the media, the establishment, etc., for the spread of fascist ideas.

In contrast, right wingers have been very active in reaching out and trying to spread their views. You need only go to a local school board meeting to see some right winger showing up at every meeting to complain about DEI or CRT.

IMHO sitting in our safe spaces scapegoating people is not going to result in change unless we convince people who do not currently agree with us that fascist and racist values are wrong.

[Dan]

37. I'm curious

Have you ever been successful in convincing a fascist or racist that their values are wrong? And if so, how?

A person’s values don’t change that easily. It usually takes a significant event, sometime like the birth of a child, etc. to make that change.

[EdmondDantes_]

43. Have you considered that maybe, just maybe, not all of them fit that description?

But to take your question, have you ever been successful in convincing someone they are wrong by calling them names?

[Dan]

45. You have a point there,

But I don’t engage with them, since we don’t share the same values.

[MuirWoods]

23. I don't see how that solved any problems?

Maybe you could have offered some education or resources?

[BluenFLA]

30. I realized there is no point trying to be civil to MAGAs

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Yesterday I had a conversation with an old friend that I have been drifting away because of his conservative beliefs. He made a racist remark and I automatically called him a bigot and he got offended by that and insisted he wasn't racist. Yeah right.

In the past I was more tolerant of listening to opposing views but I can't do it anymore. We didn't argue, but he yelled that all politicians suck and I decided to block him after the conversation ended. It's time they learn the consequences of their votes, beliefs and actions.

[The Wizard]

40. When they make bigoted remarks

they reveal their inner weakness.

[yardwork]

71. I dropped an old friend right after J6.

We grew up together, families were friends, etc. we'd stayed in touch off and on through adult-hood, although his behavior while drinking took a toll on our friendship.

Finally, our only contact was through email. Through the first Trump term he got more and more bigoted. Really hateful toward women leaders, Black leaders, gay people, etc. (I'm a gay woman married to a Latina/Indigenous woman.) He also said hateful things about my family. His excusing J6 was the last straw. I emailed him that I didn't want to communicate with him anymore because of his bigotry.

He proved my point when he ran to his elderly parents to complain about me and insist that they "cancel" me.

The last I heard from him was a mean blast from him when my mother died. What a charmer.

[usonian]

33. I'd tell him to play quarterback. WITH TRUMP CENTERING. 💨

[Shermann]

34. I'd boldly go if it were a game I were genuinely interested in.

I've never seen a political debate break out during a football game. Thanksgiving dinner is another matter!

[PennRalphie]

38. There's a saying I like.

When arguing with an idiot, make sure they’re not doing the same.

I’m really surprised to still see threads like this. Telling off neighbors, disowning relatives. I thought most had already done that. You talked to these people after January 6th, after 4 years of trump impeachments and convictions. It’s only now that you’re telling them off and refusing to talk to former friends and relatives. Telling a neighbor to stay on his own side of the fence.

A fantastic winning strategy for 26 and 28.

[VBNMW]

44. LOL

Are we still thinking we can win by courting more MAGAs?

We are absolutely fucked!

No talk about courting more progressives? LOL

FUCKED.

[PennRalphie]

46. You court people with policies.

Senator Fetterman was considered very Progressive until he wasn’t. I was surprised he wasn’t a better surrogate in 24. But, democrats were attacking him, too.

This election should have been about the booming economy. The Democratic Party didn’t have that message, especially here in swing state PA. The message was, we know the economy’s bad, President Harris will fix it. The economy here is booming. That was never the focus. It should have been.

I can’t see where disowning relatives, telling long time friends and neighbors to stay on their side of the fence, will help at all.

Focusing solely on very progressive Democrats might work well in some states. Others maybe not. Hopefully the next group of Democratic campaign staffers will know what to do.

[maxrandb]

72. You "used" to court people with policies

Today, documenting your Hawk-Tuah handjob techniques gets you a million more "likes" than proposing free education.

Don't get me wrong. I respect people that are good at what they do, but to say that, in 2025, with billionaire owned social media, that we "court with policy" seems a bit naive.

[Dem4life1234]

48. We should be worried about courting the progressives

We should swing more left and capture the non voters who feel disenfranchised.

Fuck these maga nuts. I wish I can negative rec.

[Dem4life1234]

49. Lol fuck MAGAts

We should court the racists? You kidding?

A winning strategy is going left and getting the non voters.

[LilElf70]

41. I don't talk to my MAGAT neighbors

Why waste my time?

[hueymahl]

42. He probably didn't get it

And thought you were a weirdo. Little does he know who the weirdo actually is.

[Dem4life1234]

47. I do not associate with maga nuts

They are traitors and deeply anti American. They are weird, too. Usually horrible people.

They called us anti American, they are simply projecting.

[GoodRaisin]

52. My MAGA neighbors don't speak to me.

I think they may have overheard some of our conversations over the fence.

[Historic NY]

55. I'm totally ignoring my MAGA neighbors

they put up trump merry Christmas flags and banners on their house / So I will continue to ignore them .

[summer_in_TX]

57. Since one-third of the country did not vote at all, the ones we need to convince are the non-voters.

How?

By engaging robustly in debates with everyone. You aren't doing it under the illusion you'll convince Trump voters. They aren't the ones you hope to reach. The quiet non-voters are the ones who can make a real difference. They are everywhere, watching and listening.

Will they see you coldly walking away and not bothering to stand up for what you believe?

Will they see you being a shocking a$$ to the Trump neighbor/friend? (People don't like it when someone they know, friend or otherwise, appears to be mistreated.)

Or will they see you speaking up for your beliefs, countering the silly, illogical, or unfounded arguments of the Trumper? Through you, they could see and hear something that makes them think. And decide that by God, they'd better get off the couch, get informed, and vote.

[ailsagirl]

58. Excellent!!!

[Envirogal]

59. They f'd around, now they need to find out

The yapping Tramp dogs caught the bus and now they will see what that really means. They don’t reason, they won’t absorb facts, and they stick to their tribal associations. I am sick of their berating Dems and
Liberals.


No more “going high” when Lucy is constantly pulling the football from Charlie Brown. Being nice doesn’t work unless it is someone that voted for Trump but isn’t MAGA. MAGats are a lost cause and need to feel some pain as they figure out what to do with that darn bus!.

[Southern_gent]

90. Smarter than that

Were smarter than that. Your argument is “they f’d around? That works as long as you dont mind having a President Vance. You are never gonna be able to brute force have a person change his vote. Its not the MAGA votes you are driving away, its the people that are convincible that see how you act and then decide they dont want to be associated with a group that is intentionally nasty. But hey it makes you feel good keep doing it.

[LeftInTX]

60. My opinion of those kind of remarks: Someone I know had some retaliate against them.

I would just say "No thank you". Or just be sort of an A-hole back. With something, "I just don't like your guy. I think he's ugly. I think he needs to do something about his man boobs". (I know this is DU, and we don't want to get homophobic, but they are, so......)

You know they call the Democrats fascist? And every Democratic president to them is a "Hitler" You could also frame it as "Authoritarian state, where the government is spying on you and your freedoms". Being spied on is a big thing with them.
"I heard they're gonna install bathroom cams"

[Vinca]

65. LOL - guess it beats going to prison for strangling him.

[twodogsbarking]

74. They are everwhere. Do what works best for you. I am usually phony nice and they suck it up.

Dumb fucks.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

76. trump supporters are idiots

You were correct to ignore this idiot

[Bengus81]

77. I can't think of one of them that in time will HAVE to work the MAGA/Trump agenda into

ANY conversation. Talk about the weather, a movie, a show on cable, a squirrel running around the yard. Pretty soon it's all about Trump and his loony followers and how great it all is.

They really can't help themselves.

[LoisB]

83. Good for you.

[iluvtennis]

88. Bravo! n/t

[LeftInTX]

89. I told my Maga BIL that Trump was gonna appoint

RFK, Dr Oz and K$SH Patel, he told me it was fake news.

Can't reason with unreasonable