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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJennifer Rubin exits the Washington Post -- joins new startup publication!
Rather than anti-Trump, the founders describe their venture as pro-democracy. They said they have already enlisted about two dozen contributors, including people who played prominent roles in debunking 2020 election denialism and investigating the January 6, 2021, attack at the US Capitol.
The voices well be featuring are diverse across parties and generations, Eisen said in a statement, connected by the shared belief that we need an unshackled media in order to meet this moment, as we face an existential threat to American democracy.
The Contrarian joins a growing group of publications like The Bulwark and Zeteo, to name two that are built on the Substack newsletter platform. Starting Monday, it will publish some content for free but will charge $7 a month for complete access to columns, podcasts, and videos.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/13/media/jennifer-rubin-norm-eisen-contrarian-washington-post/index.html
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Pachamama
(17,182 posts)Have not always agreed with her on all issues - but think she is a principled and honest journalist.
Not surprised at this news and I will look forward to reading her articles.
yardwork
(65,396 posts)It's been interesting to watch her transformation. I'm sure I would disagree with her about a number of things, but right now she's laser-focused on the threat to our democracy from Republicans. I respect that.
Ocelot II
(122,816 posts)But it was just the usual old-style GOP stuff that you could have a rational argument about, not the foaming-at-the-mouth lunacy we're subjected to now by the remaining "conservative" columnists - meatheads like Hugh Hewett, for example. She certainly has figured out that the old GOP is dead, and maybe she's also figured out that even the old one wasn't that great.
BonnieJW
(2,713 posts)ThePartyThatListens
(340 posts)I came up listening to and watching her sound almost no different than MAGA does today.
yardwork
(65,396 posts)I remember reading her over the years and disagreeing with a lot of what she wrote, but I don't recall her having a MAGA bent.
If she agreed with MAGA, she'd be supportive if Trump, and she's not.
Nowadays, I agree with her more than disagree. If we make it through this crisis, maybe she'll go back to writing things I don't agree with. For now, I'm glad to have a sane voice speaking up against Trumpism.
ThePartyThatListens
(340 posts)Let's just say you're more generous than I am.
I have little, to no, respect for all Republicans.
Evolve Dammit
(19,862 posts)senseandsensibility
(20,803 posts)but one thing to keep in mind is that all these "reasonable" republicans like her, Steele, Cheney, etc. still stubbornly cling onto insane conservative dogma even in the face of powerful evidence to the contrary. For instance, I wouldn't be surprised if Rubin, specifically, supports tax cuts for the wealthy as some kind of economic guiding light. There is no evidence that those help anyone but the extremely wealthy and hurt everyone else. Still, people like Rubin cling onto it and I think that's why they won't just become Democrats.
reACTIONary
(6,292 posts).... journalist? Maybe, for some definition of "journalist", but she doesn't do any original news reporting, as far as I can tell. To me she is a pundit, which is often a pejorative, although I don't take it that way.
summer_in_TX
(3,431 posts)The ones who are ethical, as she is, go to great lengths to verify the content of their opinion pieces. Journalism is more than straight reporting.
The service that a good opinion writer does for the country, city, or state is to bring awareness to the conscience of the reader a host of issues that affect good governance, democracy, and the lives of people. Straight reporting is of course important, but consider how much opinion writers do to shine a light onto misdeeds and hold the powerful to account through the stories they share in their columns.
reACTIONary
(6,292 posts)
BoRaGard
(3,946 posts)or go Brown Noser on the IncomingG.O.P. KristoFascist KlusterBuster.
NB - Bezos' funky phallus fails to rise today. Omen?
Ocelot II
(122,816 posts)might pay for a subscription later. Contributors will include Norm Eisen, Joyce Vance, Andy Borowitz, Laurence Tribe, Katie Phang, George Conway, Olivia Julianna and Harry Litman.
yardwork
(65,396 posts)I looks like Trump has created a counter-movement made up of intellectuals from various points of view, now coming together to form a united front.
Very interesting.
tulipsandroses
(6,705 posts)I will check them out and perhaps subscribe as well.
Peregrine Took
(7,556 posts)Borogove
(123 posts)The other was their climate change reporting. I cancelled it anyway.
yardwork
(65,396 posts)Canceling my Washington Post subscription makes me very sad. It's the end of an era. A lot of things are changing.
Lonestarblue
(12,203 posts)I still read the Post because my subscription doesnt expire for a few more months, after which Ill ignore it as a media source. It truly makes me sad to see what has become of the Post. It is supposedly losing millions of dollars, but everything Bezos and Lewis are doing is driving away their own assets and losing subscribers. I wish Bezos would just sell it and allow someone who cares about honest media resurrect the Post.
TheRickles
(2,566 posts)Journeyman
(15,236 posts)TheRickles
(2,566 posts)Polly Hennessey
(7,653 posts)intheflow
(29,308 posts)She's just too good to stay at a paper where it's masthead has been perverted from "Democracy dies in darkness," meaning they have an obligation to sine a light on democratic abuses, to "Democracy dies in darkness" as instructions on how to kill democracy. I can't wait to take the money I had invested in WaPo and give it to Rubin directly, instead.
JadedButHopeful
(19 posts)I'd like to drop in a contrarian view here.
I know a lot of people are inclined to welcome Jennifer Rubin's "evolution" to an anti-Trump position because that's what we do as progressives.
But I can't emphasize enough that there would be no Trump if it weren't for "conservatives" like Jennifer Rubin laying the ground work for decades and poisoning the body politic.
People like Jennifer Rubin, George Conway, Rick Wilson, etc. etc. SHOULD BE ON THEIR HANDS AND KNEES BEGGING FOR FORGIVENESS for what they've done to our country.
They can oppose Trump all they want but they will always be complicit in my view for his rise.
To hell with Jennifer Rubin!
question everything
(49,530 posts)Celerity
(47,829 posts)speak easy
(11,161 posts)Not a good enough reason to go on hating them these days.
greatauntoftriplets
(177,217 posts)Among other things, he was President Obama's ambassador to Hungary.
spooky3
(36,899 posts)Trueblue Texan
(3,142 posts)...about conservatives paving the way for what is happening now. But if we want to change our nation's direction, we have to work with those that are willing to work for the same end. We can't throw away our allies, even if we don't agree with them on everything.
JohnSJ
(97,360 posts)Hillary where some self-identified progressives not only refused to vote for Hillary, but went out of their way to encourage others not to vote for Hillary in the general election in 2016, and that includes such notables David Sirota, Nina Turner, Cornell West, Jill Stein, Susan Sarandon, etc etc etc
emulatorloo
(45,728 posts)yardwork
(65,396 posts)I'm not voting for Jennifer Rubin. I'm signing up to hear what she has to say. I don't have to forgive her or believe her or agree with her.
However, at this point in this national emergency, I think it's important to band together as much as possible.
live love laugh
(14,887 posts)Im pretty sure she is taking advantage of the opportunity for publicity but fuck CNN too otherwise.
prodigitalson
(3,042 posts)"Rubin's existential dark night of the soul was reflected in her disperate daily on-air wordrobe choices" prodigitalson 2025
thebigidea
(13,464 posts)prodigitalson
(3,042 posts)Trueblue Texan
(3,142 posts)Dennis Donovan
(28,993 posts)@jenrubin.bsky.social
BIG NEWS. I have left the Post. Corporate and billionaire media are failing to meet the moment. With @normeisen.bsky.social I'm launching @contrariannews.bsky.social. We'll have politics but also cooking, humor, film and even pets. Please subscribe and join the fight. contrarian.substack.com

January 13, 2025 at 9:20 AM
https://bsky.app/profile/jenrubin.bsky.social/post/3lfmwndwhss24
Prairie Gates
(4,019 posts)He has put his thumb on the scale. It is a betrayal of the readers to continue to pantomime as if the Washington Post is anything other than a house organ for a propagandistic billionaire.
DENVERPOPS
(10,688 posts)Very well said PG.......Same with most all of the entirely Republican owned/operated media in the country.....
And the print media, like WaPo, NYT are stupid by trying ALSO to appeal to the Trumphumpers when they don't even read !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But their OWNERS get brownie points from the Republican Party and Trump for trying......
PennRalphie
(386 posts)They refused to endorse Kamala Harris. I fully expected this exodus to happen. Falling subscriptions, less ad revenue. They probably asked her to take a pay cut. I remember how many here cancelled their subscriptions when that happened. Im sure most other democratic voters did the same.
It sounds like a very intelligent group of contributors. Im sure theyll do well.
Takket
(22,832 posts)Saw this on BlueSky. Please spread the word about this. Part of taking back our country is going to be shunning media owned by billionaires. The MSM fought for and successfully brought us a second drumpf presidency, and if their billionaire owners are going to turn them into propaganda outlets, then we need to UPLIFT independent sources. And this looks like a good one to start.
Jilly_in_VA
(11,501 posts)I tried to stay, but this was it. The new commenting section was awful. but I was struggling through. However, this was absolutely IT for me. Jen Rubin is a thoughtful, informed columnist, perhaps a little more conservative than I am, but I like her. A LOT. And I can always learn something from her.
yardwork
(65,396 posts)mcar
(43,865 posts)Scrivener7
(53,872 posts)Martin Eden
(13,785 posts)justhanginon
(3,343 posts)wordstroken
(715 posts)to many of the contributors. Looking forward to reading more.
Thanks for the info, mainer.
Much appreciated!
stollen
(695 posts)I hope Bluesky can tap into fb's populous. I'm off fb but haven't converted.
Joinfortmill
(17,162 posts)Reporters are fleeing by the dozens.
Cha
(307,045 posts)COL Mustard
(7,177 posts)They can get expensive quickly. Ill have to think about this one, although I love JRs commentary.
BlueSky3
(728 posts)decide later if you want a paid subscription. Some articles will continue to be free.
Mme. Defarge
(8,602 posts)that it was just a matter of time.
Celerity
(47,829 posts)I am launching this endeavor with my cofounder, Norm Eisen. Founding contributors will include Joyce Vance, Andy Borowitz, Laurence Tribe, Katie Phang, George Conway, Olivia Julianna, Harry Litman (who recently resigned from the LA Times for reasons similar to mine for leaving the Post), and Asha Rangappa, among many other brilliant voices.
emulatorloo
(45,728 posts)I was wondering when she was going to leave WAPO and what she was going to do next. Shes smart and thoughtful and appreciate her analysis.
Thanks so much for posting the article.
electric_blue68
(19,894 posts)Don't have the $.
reACTIONary
(6,292 posts).... Contributors will include .... Andy Borowitz....
So, that's going to make it lively!
soldierant
(8,167 posts)She mentioned it in her "Civil Discourse Substack today - and also mentioned there were a number of good people involved.
Subscribing to a Substack newsletter is basically free. They all have something or some things you don't get if you choose not to pay (or can't afford to), but you get most of the content with a free sub.