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edhopper

(35,611 posts) Sun Jan 19, 2025, 11:44 PM Jan 19

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How much of the Constitution is no longer in effect

Last edited Mon Jan 20, 2025, 09:51 AM - Edit history (1)

The emolument clause was thrown out last time. They are going to override the 14th Amendment.

What else will soon be gone under TSF.

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How much of the Constitution is no longer in effect (Original Post) edhopper Jan 19 OP

It's all still "in effect"; the question is how much of it will be observed and enforced. Ocelot II Jan 19 #1

Eventually all of it. yellow dahlia Jan 19 #2

Let's ask Alito and Thomas tishaLA Jan 19 #3

At noon Eastern on Monday, pretty much all of it. LonePirate Jan 20 #4

everything but 2A is pretty much just open to "whoever actually wants to enforce it" Takket Jan 20 #5

The Constitution exists solely in the context of its case law. J_William_Ryan Jan 20 #6

None of it iemanja Jan 20 #7

Because edhopper Jan 20 #8

We lost an election iemanja Jan 20 #10

We lost the country edhopper Jan 20 #11

Then you've chosen to give it away iemanja Jan 20 #12

I see no one with any true power edhopper Jan 20 #14

Me either Ed JustAnotherGen Jan 20 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author JustAnotherGen Jan 20 #16

26 Amendments They saved the second republianmushroom Jan 20 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author 99MainSt Jan 20 #13

28th amendment will be gone soon n/t Shrek Jan 20 #17

He erased the edhopper Jan 20 #18

Ocelot II

(123,682 posts)

1. It's all still "in effect"; the question is how much of it will be observed and enforced.

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Sun Jan 19, 2025, 11:53 PM

Jan 19

Even the Supreme Court has no enforcement powers if Trump chooses to ignore a decision.

yellow dahlia

(1,907 posts)

2. Eventually all of it.

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Sun Jan 19, 2025, 11:54 PM

Jan 19

More early sacrifices -

Freedom of Speech?

Separation of Powers?

States' Right?

tishaLA

(14,569 posts)

3. Let's ask Alito and Thomas

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Sun Jan 19, 2025, 11:57 PM

Jan 19

Or maybe June St go directly to Harlan Crow

LonePirate

(14,057 posts)

4. At noon Eastern on Monday, pretty much all of it.

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 12:03 AM

Jan 20

Takket

(22,921 posts)

5. everything but 2A is pretty much just open to "whoever actually wants to enforce it"

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 12:09 AM

Jan 20

J_William_Ryan

(2,541 posts)

6. The Constitution exists solely in the context of its case law.

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 02:43 AM

Jan 20

When that case law is ignored; when settled, accepted precedent is discarded by a Supreme Court dominated by partisan conservative ideologues, the Constitution no longer exists.

iemanja

(55,715 posts)

7. None of it

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 05:46 AM

Jan 20

Why have you conceded the fight already?

edhopper

(35,611 posts)

8. Because

Reply to iemanja (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 09:53 AM

Jan 20

we lost it on Nov. 5th.

iemanja

(55,715 posts)

10. We lost an election

Reply to edhopper (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 02:22 PM

Jan 20

That’s it.

edhopper

(35,611 posts)

11. We lost the country

Reply to iemanja (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 03:26 PM

Jan 20

I don't see us coming back from what's ahead.

iemanja

(55,715 posts)

12. Then you've chosen to give it away

Reply to edhopper (Reply #11)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 04:53 PM

Jan 20

There are plenty of people out there fighting. We all feel bad that Trump is President, and you may choose to surrender to whatever he wants, but many are not. Deciding the constitution is already lost is to capitulate in advance. You have chosen to make Trump's job easy. Whatever your reasons are for capitulating to Trump, you don't need to impose them on everyone else.

edhopper

(35,611 posts)

14. I see no one with any true power

Reply to iemanja (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 06:33 PM

Jan 20

doing anything to stop him.

JustAnotherGen

(34,595 posts)

15. Me either Ed

Reply to edhopper (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 07:09 PM

Jan 20

I'm with you. The money class has the Felon's back, and the press is pushing the Leaders propaganda. The Felon is probably going to release the violent black shirts from prison serving time for trying to overthrow the government on January 6.

None of these bode well for the experiment.

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republianmushroom

(19,145 posts)

9. 26 Amendments They saved the second

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 01:05 PM

Jan 20

48 months and counting, with the help of many

Response to edhopper (Original post)

99MainSt This message was self-deleted by its author.

Shrek

(4,245 posts)

17. 28th amendment will be gone soon n/t

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 07:25 PM

Jan 20

edhopper

(35,611 posts)

18. He erased the

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 10:00 PM

Jan 20

14th Amendment today.

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