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B.See

(4,925 posts)
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 03:20 AM Jan 20

Hitlerjugend: Far-right group Oath Keepers plan to use Boy Scouts to get younger recruits: report

Far-right group Oath Keepers plan to use Boy Scouts to get younger recruits: report - Raw Story


The far-right Oath Keepers paramilitary is trying to regroup under new leadership — and a new plan to recruit younger people, reported Rolling Stone.

The group, which burst into prominence during the 2014 Bundy Ranch standoff and consists largely of current and retired police and military, was active in plotting tactical-style group attacks during the Jan. 6 riot on the U.S. Capitol. Many of its most senior leaders, including Stewart Rhodes, received long-term prison sentences for seditious conspiracy — though his family is reportedly terrified that... Donald Trump could pardon him.

"The Oath Keepers now have a new brand, Oath Keepers USA, and a new leader named Bobby Kinch, a retired Las Vegas police officer who once gained infamy for making Facebook posts that appeared to call for a race war," reported Tim Dickinson. "These days, Kinch lives in the mountains of Southwest Utah, and adds a populist topspin to dark visions of impending tyranny: 'It doesn’t matter what your political persuasion; because if you’re not one of the wealthy elites, if you’re not one of the Davos, globalist, Marxist, progressive billionaires,' he said on a recent podcast, 'you’re going to be in the same box car as everybody else.'"

For his part, Kinch denies that his old social media activity, in which he wrote, “Let’s just get this over! Race war, Civil, Revolution? Bring it!" and said "I think we need a cleansing!” while still active in the police force, was an actual call for violence, adding that it's "pretty r------d" to view him as racist.


Right, Kinch. A fascist bigot by any other name....
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Hitlerjugend: Far-right group Oath Keepers plan to use Boy Scouts to get younger recruits: report (Original Post) B.See Jan 20 OP
Post removed Post removed Jan 20 #1
hmmmm... am i supposed to click on this link or put this to a translator? B.See Jan 20 #2
Grooming NameAlreadyTaken Jan 20 #3
Exactly. Because they are always guilty of the s------ they accuse US of... ALWAYS. B.See Jan 20 #4
Marxist billionaire? Just Jerome Jan 20 #5
Marxist PROGRESSIVE billionaires! A HERETIC I AM Jan 20 #12
In less than 3 weeks, the organization is changing its name to Scouting America. eShirl Jan 20 #6
Because Girl Scouts is too "woke," I suppose? Silver Gaia Jan 20 #9
too pro-women (& girls) eShirl Jan 20 #16
Well, YES. That's what I meant. Silver Gaia Jan 20 #20
MAGA Youth? Baron2024 Jan 20 #7
Who knew? The left just lost their monopoly on making "billionaire" a dirty word. And I once knew a former Hitler Youth. DFW Jan 20 #8
When your fascist organization is dedicated to the empowerment of reich winged billionaires and authoritarians B.See Jan 20 #10
Working brains are always the arch enemies of the control freak extremist. DFW Jan 20 #13
Thanks for this ReRe Jan 20 #11
It's rare to find Americans who have actually known former HJ members. DFW Jan 20 #14
I knew you was a traveler. ReRe Jan 20 #17
We had a speaker at school who grew up in Berlin and was in BDM (Hitler Jugend for girls) hatrack Jan 20 #18
Incels in abundance. Why aren't parents afraid? Jit423 Jan 20 #15
He is right about one thing Ferryboat Jan 20 #19
The beer garden scene from Caberet UTUSN Jan 20 #21

Response to B.See (Original post)

B.See

(4,925 posts)
2. hmmmm... am i supposed to click on this link or put this to a translator?
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 03:54 AM
Jan 20

How 'bout you save us the trouble and post it in English?

A HERETIC I AM

(24,747 posts)
12. Marxist PROGRESSIVE billionaires!
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 07:14 AM
Jan 20

Those three words are never put together to accurately describe someone because...oh, I don't know....THEY CONTRADICT EACH OTHER?!? LOL

What a clown.

eShirl

(19,199 posts)
6. In less than 3 weeks, the organization is changing its name to Scouting America.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 05:08 AM
Jan 20

They allow girls to join but they have to go into special gender-specific troops.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_Scouts_of_America

Silver Gaia

(5,028 posts)
9. Because Girl Scouts is too "woke," I suppose?
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 05:54 AM
Jan 20

To give MAGA parents MAGA scouts for their daughters. 🤬 🤢 🤮

Silver Gaia

(5,028 posts)
20. Well, YES. That's what I meant.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 01:38 PM
Jan 20

They also promte diversity, inclusion, tolerance, and so on. I was a Girl Scout as a girl and young woman, then a troop leader for 13 years, and service unit manager for my county for 3 years.

Baron2024

(1,460 posts)
7. MAGA Youth?
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 05:16 AM
Jan 20

Echoes of the formation of the Hitler Youth. We need a counter operation where we organize youth groups that are loyal to America and the U.S. Constitution, not to MAGA, not to Trump.

DFW

(57,528 posts)
8. Who knew? The left just lost their monopoly on making "billionaire" a dirty word. And I once knew a former Hitler Youth.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 05:16 AM
Jan 20

The guy was born in 1935, was ten years old when the war ended, so he was never drafted into the Wehrmacht like my father-in-law was. But he was old enough to be inducted into the Hitler Youth. He told me about it when he was about 70. He said there was no way anyone like me could ever imagine the thoroughness of their indoctrination. It was total immersion, a de facto removal of the boys' capacity for free thought, and a substitution of a robot-like devotion to the quasi-religion of National Socialism and Hitler worship. He said it took him years to realize completely what had been done to him and his generation. It's what the extremist wing of the Republican Party wants to do to our nation starting yesterday. Own the schools, force religion (theirs) on everyone, and eliminate any capacity for questioning the one and only "truth" they are taught.

From "The Evolution" (parody of "The Locomotion):

Now that you believe it, come and join the cult now,
(Come on, baby, don’t teach evolution)
Tell your children’s teacher there’s a new result, now
(Come on, baby, don’t teach evolution)
What Darwin found is causing me a lot of grief
Religion’s free as long as it is MY belief!
So come on, come on, don’t teach evolution to me!
You gotta bite your tongue, now. Come on baby.
Turn back your clocks. Fossils are just some odd-shaped rocks!

B.See

(4,925 posts)
10. When your fascist organization is dedicated to the empowerment of reich winged billionaires and authoritarians
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 06:13 AM
Jan 20

that phony-ass proletarian pretense rings rather hollow to anyone with a working brain. But the MAGATS will sure as hell eat it up. Just like they believe Trump to be "one of them."

jackasses.

DFW

(57,528 posts)
13. Working brains are always the arch enemies of the control freak extremist.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 07:50 AM
Jan 20

The one phrase that turns the hair of the fundamentalist religious fanatic white is, “oh give me a break! Do you really expect me to believe all of that?”

ReRe

(11,401 posts)
11. Thanks for this
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 06:27 AM
Jan 20

Memories from a real Hitler Youth. That was pure history. DFW.
And I sang "The Evolution" to the tune of "Do the Locomotion".
I hope it doesn't happen here.
Have a good MLK Day, where ever you are.

DFW

(57,528 posts)
14. It's rare to find Americans who have actually known former HJ members.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 08:02 AM
Jan 20

This guy was young enough to have been thoroughly indoctrinated, but old enough to realize it afterward. Though not really related, my wife called him and his wife her “uncle and aunt” all her life. He became the manager of a large bicycle factory (main mode of transportation where she grew up). He saw how smart she was, and had her managing finances and payroll before she turned 20. She only left because she wanted to see more of the world than a tiny farming village community offered. North America was beyond the scope of her imagination at the time though. At age 19, she thought it was a place she would never see.

I am on a rare 3 day visit to Dallas at the moment. Back up to DC on Wednesday, and then back to Düsseldorf Saturday afternoon.

ReRe

(11,401 posts)
17. I knew you was a traveler.
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 08:29 AM
Jan 20
So glad life turned out well for the young man. And that your wife came to know North America.
Stay safe in all your goings-about. And God help the United States of America in the coming four years.

hatrack

(62,067 posts)
18. We had a speaker at school who grew up in Berlin and was in BDM (Hitler Jugend for girls)
Mon Jan 20, 2025, 09:08 AM
Jan 20

And I'll never forget that presentation. She talked about how fun it all was. Youth leaders ran the show, and there were hardly ever adults around. Camping and hiking and visits to museums, and traveling to whatever the equivalent to a scouting Jamboree was. She said it never felt like brainwashing.

Until later on. It was in mid-April 1945 that a friend of her mother mentioned that there must be a storm coming, with all the thunder they could hear off to the east. Her mother responded: "Strange, there isn't a cloud in the sky" - this was right around the time that Zhukov began the final offensive at Seelow Heights.

I remember her closing sentence verbatim: "And the streets filled up with bodies and rubble, and the trees were filled with people who hanged themselves, and that was the end of my wonderful Hitler Youth experience".

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