Just saw an interview with Michael Fanone on TV.

[LuckyCharms]

I'm going to try to word this post carefully as to not break any rules.

He was asked by the interviewer, essentially, was Jan 6 the worst day of his life.

Fanone indicated it was not, and he indicated that subsequent events have been the worst days of his life.

Fanone said that while his mother was raking leaves at her home, someone drove up to her and threw a bag on shit of her.

This broke me, and made me realize something.

As a natural result of what Trump has unleashed, some fucking skulls are going to start getting cracked, and the skull-crackers are going to be people who were previously non-violent, and perhaps previously complete pacifists.

People can only take so much of this fucking nonsense.

And this is Trump's plan.

Societal upheaval.

Random violence.

Flood the zone with shit.

Civil war.

Destruction of our country from within.

I rarely personally have violent thoughts, but I did today.

[Mike Nelson]

1. Fanone is correct...

... and I would add that the pardons are not, as some newsreaders are saying, getting the bad stuff done quickly. Like Fanone's "worst day," they are only just beginning.

[JohnSJ]

2. Let me phrase it this way, if a disease were to put the sociopath out of commission, I wouldn't shed any tears.

[LuckyCharms]

3. I'm having thoughts that I don't don't like having...

but like all of us, I'm human.

I'm not real pleased about the darkness I'm feeling.

[littlemissmartypants]

24. It may be no comfort to you for me to share but those feelings are normal human feelings. ...

It's what we allow those feelings to provide the impetus for that ultimately matters.

❤️

[mucifer]

4. trump is being guided. vance would, too. It's not going to be easy to

get the toothpaste back in the tube

[LuckyCharms]

5. Yes, they are following an obvious playbook, and

their plays are going to be successful unless they are somehow stopped.

[2naSalit]

9. Personally...

I'm at the point where I'm all for whatever takes him off the planet, I really don't care if he gets Luigied... I find that almost preferable now.

[sop]

29. Never thought I would hope that for anyone, but I find myself wishing it would happen every time I see him.

The man is pure evil. He has not one redeeming quality. His entire life has been devoted to personally enriching himself by doing harm to others. The day of his passing will be remembered the way other presidents' birthdays are celebrated.

[cannabis_flower]

30. Let me go a step farther

If something bad happened to him and he died I wouldn’t shed a tear but I might be worried about the shit storm that would surely follow. And I would be worried about President Vance.

[markie]

6. me as well...

dangerous times... I no longer question my thought, feelings....

[LuckyCharms]

7. I question how I would react if

someone threw shit on my mother, who is now mercifully departed so she doesn't have to see what this country has become.

I'm pretty sure I know how I would react, and that is what is eating me up.

[markie]

10. as an old woman

I know my options are limited, however, if I had access........

[LuckyCharms]

11. I've been in violent confrontations before...

and each one was horrible and life changing in some respect.

As a result, I'm pretty much a pacifist. Violence is never the answer.

Until it is.

I know this statement goes against DU norms, and even my own norms, but systems and safeguards are failing us.

When that happens, what choice is left?

None.

Do we adapt to our situation? or do we perish at the whims of others?

[LiberalArkie]

27. Roadhouse comes to mind..

Dalton: People who want to have a good time won't come to a slaughterhouse, and we've got entirely too many troublemakers here... Too many uhh, 40 year old adolescents, felons, power drinkers, and trustees of modern chemistry... It's going to change.

Hank: Yeah, that sure sounds great... but a lot of the guys who come in here we can't handle one-on-one, even two-on-one.

Dalton: Don't worry about it; all you have to do is follow three simple rules: One, never underestimate your opponent... expect the unexpected; Two, take it outside, never start anything inside the bar unless it's absolutely necessary. And three... be nice.

Hank: [Incredulously] Come on!!

Dalton: If somebody gets in your face and calls you a c*cksucker I want you to be nice.

Hank: [With resignation] Ok.

Dalton: Ask him to walk, be nice. If he won't walk, walk him, but be nice. If you can't walk him, one of the others will help you and you will both be nice. I want you to remember that it's the job, it's nothing personal.

Steve: Being called a c*cksucker isn't personal?

Dalton: No, it's two nouns combined to elicit a prescribed response.

: What if somebody calls my Mama a wh*re?

Dalton: Is she?
[Everyone snickers.]

Dalton: I want you to be nice... until it's time... to not be nice

[sagetea]

28. Thank you, your post reminded me of this:

"Better a warrior in a garden than gardener in war"


sage

[Harker]

22. I think, Lucky, that "self-defense" is more like a tent than like a jacket.

My mother is long dead, but I would do anything I could, using appropriate force, to have protected her, as I would now to defend my wife. More than I would likely do to protect myself.

I consider myself a pacifist, too, but there's a point at which definitions get bent or broken, and abandoned, and it's not always us at fault.

[Hugin]

8. I take people like Fanone, Kinzinger, Vindman, and unfortunately so many of the LGBTQ+ very seriously.

They have gone directly to Found Out and have a clear vision of what’s really important as well as what’s at stake.

[Joinfortmill]

12. Be careful out there. Think 1933. We have our own dictator.

[johnnyfins]

17. Not just "out there"

People need to choose their words wisely "on here", and anywhere else where the wrong people are reading. Just saying...

[LuckyCharms]

18. And some people don't give a shit who is watching. Like me.

That's my form of resistance.

[Joinfortmill]

20. Yes, I'm struggling with that - trying to be brave.

[niyad]

25. Waving at agent freddie, who took agent mikey's place when he retired.

[BonnieJW]

26. A friend works at a large tech company

She said no one should speak about the felon through any platform, only in person. No texts, emails or phone calls.

[sagetea]

31. I've taken to writing and mailing

letters as long as possible until there is no more USPS. And it's a nostalgic pastime that is all but forgotten. I started writing letters after I read how the 19th amendment started by women writing messages each other through 'Ladies magazines and crochet patterns'.

sage

[Duncan Grant]

37. They can't jail all of us.

I say, be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid. (F*ck these guys.)

[FoxNewsSucks]

13. I watched that also.

The brownshirts were already deployed.

Now they've been unleashed

[LuckyCharms]

14. I keep flashing to the original Sam Peckinpah 1971 film "Straw Dogs".

[LuckyCharms]

15. Point being...

Even the gentlest of souls break toward violence when no other form of protection against unspeakable and life threatening harassment is available.

[FoxNewsSucks]

36. Yeah, and it's probably gonna have to happen

The type of scumbag tRumphumpers who would throw shit at someone's mother won't respond to or be deterred by anything but violence.

[Lovie777]

16. shithole musk, comrades, magas, rwers, etc..............

want unrest - martial law.

Fellow Americans - maim, suffer, die. The psychopaths don't care because it's all about power/money.

The rate these psychopaths are headed, they will bankrupt themselves and the country.

Cost of living will skyrocket.

[True Blue American]

19. But we all know Trump

Has no enemies, except the 2 we know about.

[JohnnyRingo]

21. I don't believe Trump has any deeply thought out plan for the country

I think his goals are more simple and self centered.
For him it's about winning personally and enrichening himself in the process. That's all, just line his pockets with cash and have people bow to him for his mastery of management and good looks. He's a simple man.

Other goal minded individuals may influence him, but it has to satisfy the aforementioned terms first.

[Marthe48]

23. In the movie Monument Men

A captive French women was forced to cook and serve nazis occupying France in WWII. She was filling wine glasses, in a different room than the nazis were in, and she spit in every glass before she poured the wine. The movie was based on facts. I wish she would have put poison in the glasses, and killed that nest of evil.

[hunter]

32. That would have triggered my mom's berserker mode.

She would have run down the shit-thrower and castrated him with whatever tool was at hand, a serrated garden trowel being most likely if she was gardening when it happened.

My dad, and later me and my siblings as adults, were protective of my mom, but not in that fashion. Our goal was to keep her out of jail for mayhem.

When I was a kid I witnessed my mom grab a rifle from some fool, expertly unload it, and break it against a boulder. In my mom's wild west family fools and their guns were soon parted.

Some of us are pacifists by necessity, not by any natural inclination.

My mom's parents were pacifists, and her dad was a Conscientious Objector in World War II. He would not take up arms or build them. Her parents were welders and their compromise was to build and repair ships for the Merchant Marine.

[Irish_Dem]

33. LC you are correct about where all of this is headed. :(

[LuckyCharms]

34. It's pretty obvious, isn't it.

It's well planned.

With an end goal in mind.

And he is executing his agenda well.

This isn't just some random bullshit that he discovered during a fever dream.

That's what many are not realizing. He doesn't give a fuck about anything he is doing currently. All he cares about is reaching a goal. Everything he does is a means to an end.

[Irish_Dem]

35. Exactly.

We are being carefully and obviously led to only one outcome.

People are not yet ready to face the facts.

[Niagara]

38. This is what I believe is happening

I recently came across this meme. I remembered some articles that have been shared on DU previously. I'm going to share two of these articles with excerpts below.


Now it all makes sense, I believe that Putin is instructing Elon and then Elon is instructing Trump. I can imagine that Putin is laughing his ass off at the current and incoming chaos that is unfolding.






Trump had as many as 7 private calls with Putin since leaving office, Bob Woodward writes in new book:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-had-as-many-as-7-private-calls-with-putin-since-leaving-office-bob-woodward-writes-in-new-book

Donald Trump has had as many as seven private phone calls with Vladimir Putin since leaving office and secretly sent the Russian president COVID-19 test machines during the height of the pandemic, Bob Woodward reported in his new book “War.”

In the famed Watergate reporter’s latest book, Woodward reports that Trump asked an aide to leave his office at his Florida resort, Mar-a-Lago, so that the former president could have a private call with Putin in early 2024. The aide, whom Woodward doesn’t name, said there have been multiple calls between Trump and Putin since Trump left office, perhaps as many as seven in that period, according to the book.

Here’s a look at Musk’s contact with Putin and why it matters:

https://apnews.com/article/musk-putin-x-trump-tesla-election-russia-9cecb7cb0f23ccce49336771280ae179

Trump also has vowed to give Musk a role in his administration if he wins next month.

Former U.S. Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul said it’s unusual for business leaders to be in contact with Putin without informing U.S. authorities. While CEOs may often interact with foreign leaders, Putin stands apart, given his invasion of Ukraine, McFaul said.

“He’s a war criminal who is slaughtering civilians. That makes this wrong in my view,” McFaul said of Musk’s talks with Putin. “You have to decide what team you are on. Are you on the American team or are you on the Russian team?

I hope that I've communicated my believe accurately. This is what swims through my brain and it's okay if no one agrees. Just my 2 cents.


Why would Trump and Musk have contact with Putin as private citizens other than to help Putin and to create chaos in the United States?

[LuckyCharms]

39. THIS RIGHT HERE.

You nailed it.

And the Media ignores this.

[yellow dahlia]

40. Civil war has been part of the plan...even before the grifter.