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[Ocelot II]

1. That didn't take long. No doubt there will be more.

Some of those assholes will be incorrigible.

[Irish_Dem]

2. They may think they are now invincible.

We shall see how that plays out.

[Igel]

57. It didn't take long because the charges date to 2023.

Source:

The two cases are related, however. The firearm charge stems from the May 2023 search of his Florida residence on a warrant in his Jan. 6 case. During the search, FBI agents reportedly discovered a loaded .22-caliber rifle, rifle ammunition and multiple commercially produced explosive devices agents reported being the “same style of device Ball would later tell agents the threw at officers on January 6,” according to a detention memo filed in federal court.

No claim he did anything after being released/charges dropped except go home.

[Irish_Dem]

58. His past is catching up with him.

[SheilaAnn]

5. Florida Man..What a surprise. n/t

[Lonestarblue]

21. Next one will be from Texas, though lawlessness by white supremacists is encouraged here.

[DENVERPOPS]

41. Remember when it was reported that

a guy took his assault weapon to a family owned pizza place, because he was told Hillary was operating a child prostitution ring in the basement???????

Well, a few weeks ago, he was flaunting? his automatic weapon at Police and they ended up shooting and killing him......

[Ocelot II]

42. That was definitely a FAFO situation.

[madinmaryland]

49. That guy should be up for a Darwin Award.

[DENVERPOPS]

51. Along with

74+ million others............

[Brenda]

70. That man is dead

A man who opened fire at a pizza restaurant in Washington DC has been shot dead by police during a traffic stop, nine years after the incident made the "Pizzagate" conspiracy theory famous.

Edgar Maddison Welch made headlines in 2016 when he drove from North Carolina to pursue bogus claims that the Comet Ping Pong restaurant was the nexus of a child sex ring linked to Hillary Clinton's inner circle.

He served four years in prison for the shooting, before being released in March 2020.

Welch, now 36, died from his wounds caused by two police officers who fired at him after he pulled out a handgun during a traffic stop in Kannapolis, North Carolina, on 4 January, officials said on Thursday.

1.9.25

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8y007lj68o

[DoBW]

59. I hope real lawmen got eyes on all the traitors

there' s a curse upon the land

[William769]

3. Just waiting for the avalanche.

[Baitball Blogger]

4. So, a pardon doesn't remove a felon conviction?

[Ocelot II]

6. Not if you commit a new one.

He was pardoned for his Jan. 6 crime but not for subsequently being a felon in possession of a firearm, which he was at the time the warrant was issued.

[Baitball Blogger]

8. I must have read it wrong. I thought he was arrested because he purchased a weapon when he was a felon.

Or is it that he purchased the gun improperly?

[Ocelot II]

12. He was already a felon as the result of crimes he committed before 1/6.

Online federal court records of Ball’s indictment show he was charged with possession of a firearm and ammunition by a convicted felon on Aug. 6, 2024, listing his past convictions as domestic violence battery by strangulation in 2017 and then resisting law enforcement with violence and battery on law enforcement officer, both in 2021. The arrest warrant filed in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Florida was issued on the same day as the indictment, and now notes that Ball was arrested on Jan. 22, 2025. He has not yet entered a plea.

Trump’s pardons and commutations, as broad as they were, offer Ball no protection here for these gun charges stemming from a separate indictment. Similarly, any new crimes committed by other Jan. 6 rioters would result in new charges and arrests, and they would have no shield from prosecution.

https://www.mediaite.com/crime/florida-man-whose-jan-6-case-was-dismissed-after-trump-pardons-gets-arrested-one-day-later-for-gun-charges/

[Hekate]

18. He seems nice. It gives me a warm feeling to know he'll be back in the slammer.

[Ocelot II]

19. I'm sure he won't be the last.

[Nasruddin]

31. Well you know

Trump may need a good man like that. So....

[TomSlick]

22. Thanks.

I was wondering if that was the case.

[Baitball Blogger]

25. I thought I already replied to this.

I said, Thank you! And now only 1599 more to go.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

28. The recrudescence of felons. . . . nt

[GoCubsGo]

9. It only removes the Jan. 6-related convictions.

It doesn't give them a "Get Out of Jail Free" card. A lot of these assholes committed crimes before the insurrection, and most of them will commit other crimes once they're out of prison. Trump's pardon does not apply there.

[whopis01]

48. It does not remove the Jan. 6-related convictions.

It removes the punishment, but not the conviction.

Anyone who was convicted of a felony and later pardoned is still a felon. The conviction still stands.

It is weird and confusing - but this is how it works. A pardon is not a declaration of innocence, it is an act of mercy. It is an executive action, not a judicial action.

[Ocelot II]

13. He was.

https://www.mediaite.com/crime/florida-man-whose-jan-6-case-was-dismissed-after-trump-pardons-gets-arrested-one-day-later-for-gun-charges/

[Grins]

30. No! It CONFIRMS the conviction.

Accepting a pardon is accepting guilt for the charges.

It is a reason why those convicted will refuse a pardon if they are fighting the conviction; accepting a pardon makes that moot and any appeal is over.

[Igel]

56. That's swung both ways in the last 6 weeks.

In early December when Trump said he'd pardon the J6 folk, the Biden-Harris DOJ said (citing SCOTUS) that acceptance would be an admission of guilt.

Then when Biden pardoned his family and various people on the J6 committee and witnesses he said explicitly that accepting them was no admission of guilt. And a lot of people said that Biden was right and SCOTUS was way off base and nobody, but nobody, should take accepting the pardon as an admission of guilt.

So there you go. Do you want SCOTUS/DOJ's or President Biden's take?

[whopis01]

47. No. A pardon does not remove the conviction.

A pardon is considered and act of mercy, not a declaration of innocence.

It is weird - and the writings around it are confusing - but a pardon does not remove a conviction.

[bucolic_frolic]

7. 1 down, 1499 to go /nt

[sarisataka]

11. Some may learn the hard way

a pardon does not necessarily restore all rights

[FSogol]

69. Exactly, every state has a different process for getitng voting and gun ownership rights back.

Those idiots think they are invincible and won't follow the proper process.

This clown is just the first of many.

[Judi Lynn]

14. From 2023: Florida man charged with setting off explosive device in Capitol tunnel during Jan. 6 riot

NBC Universal
Ryan J. Reilly
Updated May 3, 2023 at 12:02 AM

WASHINGTON — The FBI on Tuesday arrested a Florida man who federal authorities say set off an explosive device in a Capitol tunnel during a fierce battle between Trump supporters and law enforcement officers on Jan. 6.

Daniel Ball of Homosassa is charged with 12 counts, including assaulting, resisting or impeding officers with a deadly or dangerous weapon; using an explosive to commit any felony; and obstruction of law enforcement during a civil disorder.

He is the only Jan. 6 defendant charged with setting off an explosive device during the attack on the Capitol.

Authorities say Ball, 38, "worked with other rioters to violently push against fully uniformed police officers attempting to keep individuals out of the Capitol Building" and then "threw an explosive device into the entranceway."

Several officers suffered effects from the explosion, the FBI said. One described “hearing impairment lasting months”; another described the pain of his ears ringing as a 10/10 on the pain scale and said that he temporarily lost his hearing and that his hearing was affected for at least two days. Another officer reported ringing in the ears for nearly three hours, while another said the ringing lasted far into the next day, according to the FBI.

More:
https://www.aol.com/news/florida-man-charged-setting-off-032919377.html

So sad. In his portrait, he looks like such a bright, good person!

[Mike 03]

15. Oh, you just wait.

I wish there were an online casino where we could bet on how long until the first:

Barricade situation
Arrest for transporting a cache of weapons and explosives
Domestic homicide
Murder-suicide
Mass shooting

involving a pardoned or commuted J6er.

We will have to wait hours or days, not weeks or even months or years.

[WinstonSmith4740]

32. Can't think of his name right now...

Maybe the head of the Proud Boys? Stuart Rhoads? Anyhow, his former wife and kids are now scared as hell that he's out. She said he was violent before this, and I'll bet he's worse now.

Like most folks here, I've never been a person who believed violence solved anything. It took the "Night Stalker" in LA before I let a gun in the house. But with these guys? Anyone who had anything to do with their arrests needs to arm themselves. If these guys start getting picked off when they show up to hurt people (and they will), they may go back into their caves. Let's cement them in this time.

Just remember..."Officer, I feared for my life". It won't be a lie.

[Silent Type]

16. Good.

[no_hypocrisy]

17. Trump's first pre-emotive pardon

[Dem4life1970]

20. Remember the "soft on crime" attacks on Dukakis?

This is WAY worse! A felon President releasing terrorists back into America.

[Midnight Writer]

23. In MAGA world, only black and brown crime exists.

White people don't do crimes.

They make mistakes.

[calimary]

24. YAY!!! Back where you belong, you bastard!

In CUSTODY!!!

[SheltieLover]

26. Desatan will prob stick gold stars on his forehead & pardon him.

[Paladin]

27. I didn't figure it would take very long... (nt)

[LudwigPastorius]

29. He is truly one of the dumbest motherfuckers alive.

[question everything]

33. I was counting on this. Once a criminal always a criminal. Hope he cannot be pardoned again

[SWBTATTReg]

43. I too, was thinking this. This would be a good regular tracking item on DU, to track how many of these thugs

get rearrested, do a week by week count, post it on DU. And, when we charge these thugs w/the new criminal counts, ensure that they are state charges too, not federal so the slob pos can't pardon them then.

[stollen]

34. The recidivism rate will be high

with these violent insurrectionists.

[Bird Lady]

35. I don't understand

Was he a felon before J6? Did he come out of prison and buy a new gun?
What happened to his pardon. Personally I have no problem with him being arrested again,
I just thought he like felonious45 was immune.

[Bird Lady]

40. Thank you nt

[mdbl]

36. Anyone re-offending needs to be charged at the state or local level

Keep Dump's small grubby hands away from it.

[GreenWave]

38. He should plead "Donald Trump"

How he could not commit crimes the way the Orange Antichrist does, made him want to impress his hero.

[Ford_Prefect]

39. The pardon does not exculpate the charges. Rather it confirms them, and all applicable limitations post incarceration.

The pardon means you don't do more time for the crime you committed.

It does NOT erase the charges, the findings of the court, or the recommendations of the parole officer.

[moonshinegnomie]

44. every one of them should have a cop on their tail 24/7

if they jay walk. arrest them
speed 1 mph over the limit. ticket them
make their lives hell

[Nigrum Cattus]

45. One god damn day - (1)

You just can't make this shit up

[ck4829]

50. Womp womp

[doc03]

52. Maybe there are some cops that back the Blue instead of Trump. nt

[uponit7771]

53. So he exploded a bomb by the police and wasn't designated a terrorist

[louis-t]

54. At this rate, he won't have time to lower food costs.

He'll be too busy pardoning recidivists.

[Dem4life1234]

55. They are psychopaths

They just can't help themselves and many of these idiots will get arrested and thrown in prison, and no one will pardon them.

[Bristlecone]

60. They think they have license to do whatever the F they want

[surfered]

61. Back to the Hoosegow!

[Katinfl]

62. And so it begins.

[Martin68]

63. Criminals will be criminals, morons will be morons.

[SunSeeker]

64. The J6 Committee posted all of the evidence it gathered.

A lot of stunning (and very disturbing) video evidence here for folks who say Trump supporters committed no violence on 1/6/21:

https://www.govinfo.gov/collection/january-6th-committee-final-report?path=/GPO/January%206th%20Committee%20Final%20Report%20and%20Supporting%20Materials%20Collection

I hope it is also archived elsewhere. Trump will try to shut down this site.

Adam Kinzinger is spreading word about the site:

Post by @adam_kinzinger

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[eppur_se_muova]

65. Daniel Charles "Willie Horton" Bell ? nt

[Justice matters.]

66. Don't tell the convicted felon...

mob boss will pardon him again...

[ificandream]

67. Will Trumpty pardon him?

[ChazInAz]

68. Wouldn't it be terrible

If some low-life scofflaw doxed all of these suffering martyrs for freedumb?
Why, the poor souls would find that they must constantly watch their backs instead of enjoying their new-found liberation.
That would be a shame.