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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsObeying Trump order, Air Force will stop teaching recruits about Tuskegee Airmen
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The Tuskegee Airmen were pioneering Black pilots renowned for their service during World War II. Their inclusion in the training curriculum was intended to highlight the Air Force's historical diversity and the significant contributions of African American service members.

Joinfortmill
(17,640 posts)Lovie777
(17,483 posts)Comfortably_Numb
(4,178 posts)yardwork
(65,939 posts)Joinfortmill
(17,640 posts)wnylib
(25,204 posts)sinkingfeeling
(54,681 posts)Submariner
(12,937 posts)or is he still in the country. He seems to have disappeared the day after the election.
LoisB
(9,830 posts)Bengus81
(8,416 posts)about kissing Trumps ass on national TV with his "but I wuv you!!" and then thrown under the bus.
oasis
(52,129 posts)
jls4561
(2,123 posts)KS Toronado
(21,010 posts)Truth be known he probably has a task force looking to erase black history.
3auld6phart
(1,486 posts)Necked is sure a whiny feckin pissant. The sooner this freak of nature leaves this vale of tears the better off we all will be.what triple neck abomination. Just feck off and die otange freak and talked Dead eyes Steven Miller with you.
Hekate
(96,882 posts)
and add that.
Thanks for the link to the Smithsonian gift shop.
Arazi
(7,627 posts)The black community will love this
Geechie
(1,000 posts)They will not know about it at all, and if they hear about it, will shrug it off as an urban legend
Arazi
(7,627 posts)Geechie
(1,000 posts)The Lorax:
Unless
As the only one left, the Once-ler's message to those who will listen is: Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not!
(Fun fact: The Lorax was banned in California because the logging industry lobbied against it.)
LoisB
(9,830 posts)D. Spaulding
(164 posts)one of the highlights of my career was to meet and listen to a speech from a surviving Tuskegee Airman. They are an integral part of AF history, and this pains me very much.
OldBaldy1701E
(7,488 posts)So sick of rich people making the poor fight for them and when these same poor people achieve greatness on the battlefield, the rich either parade them around like heroes but don't treat them as such, or try to remove even a memory of these same great people who gave all for their country.
This administration is sad and disgusting that they have to act like 5 year olds just because they hate sharing even one flash of the spotlight. Even when it might help them. They cannot stop with their ego and greed. EVER.
yardwork
(65,939 posts)It was a bright spot in our nation's history.
This mean decision literally made me cry.
Trump is erasing everything good and decent.
kimbutgar
(24,615 posts)He never talked about it and I found out after they divorced. But was at a reunion for my Dads military group once in DC and the Tuskegee airman had a similar reunion in an event room across from ours and My Dad and the other men in his the group were fan boying the airmen! I didnt know about hat group until that night.
COL Mustard
(7,287 posts)Takes you through some of their missions, talks about the expectations and the experiences that some of them had as POWs. As one of the white officers said, "At least I know you're not a spy".
Jarqui
(10,604 posts)Cha
(308,868 posts)in large numbers.. and more Black Americans did too than before.
This is so Incredibly Heartbreaking for the whole Planet.
Hekate
(96,882 posts)Specific to Native Americans on the reservations was the demand they have an actual house address with a street name and number
I think various voter-suppression tactics had an influence on the results of the election across demographics. Honestly, Cha, Id love to get my hands on the info that came streaming across my screen day after day this last decade. When I get some time later Ill check Democracy Docket and the like.
questionseverything
(10,649 posts)Lines for hours, all the provisional paper ballots were used but they only had 200 of those
Hekate
(96,882 posts)happy feet
(1,178 posts)You can watch Vigilantes or Vigilantism? Om Greg Pallasts website for free. Plus I heard him yesterday having reviewed the vote data dump from the govt saying it shows TFG won through massive voter suppression and throwing out votes. He cites the stats he found from the govt data.
Cha
(308,868 posts)For adding this important information.
🕯️🕊️💙🇺🇸
happy feet
(1,178 posts)Black women no change
Cha
(308,868 posts)That, happy feet.
🕯️🕊️💙🇺🇸
Jarqui
(10,604 posts)because over the next 4 years, they will have consolidated control such that the election won't matter because it won't be an election like the past. It will be a Putin-like election where the fix is in
GOP has already put forth legislation to give Trump a third term but naturally, no such option for Obama.
Norrrm
(914 posts)markie
(23,233 posts)and the anger, and the sadness.....
niyad
(122,906 posts)His partner is going to be sick when I tell her about this.
MLWR
(228 posts)DENVERPOPS
(11,542 posts)is just signing all the shit the MAGA Project 2025 has been preparing for months, if not years. That same 2025 group KNEW they would be able to corrupt the 2024 election, and shove it all through, manipulating Trump into believing HE and his CABAL were thinking up all this gargantuan amount of despicable actions.......
I have to believe that showing all of us this Tsunami of orders, is to divert attention from much more destructive stuff that is being done out of sight...........
Norrrm
(914 posts)In Mel Gibson's movie 'The Patriot', the black slave fighting on our side will be edited out.
Arazi
(7,627 posts)sakabatou
(44,354 posts)What's next? Erasing the Trail of Tears?
AZJonnie
(568 posts)But yeah, other side of the same coin
Dem4life1234
(2,530 posts)Man, the next president has a lot of cleaning up to do.
Why is it taking so long for him to you know what?
What is their damn problem with diversity? Those stupid rappers grinning for him makes me sick.
mahina
(19,590 posts)ancianita
(40,173 posts)This is media's red meat to distract from the more serious things they don't want to report.
AZJonnie
(568 posts)But yeah, if this becomes a big story across a lot of media, maybe it's as a distraction. However the other side of this argument is that this move could turn out to be an opening salvo in a nefarious war i.e. it's a logical precursor to some scarier things. It's trying to dehumanize AA people by erasing their contributions and accomplishments. May not be long before no federally funded school can even mention the word 'slavery' in a classroom, and proceed downhill from there.
Also I do think it's important for the AA folks who voted for Trump to see this, and the story of how Trump has de-fanged the Civil Rights division of the DoJ. I think it's important for them to discover that this is what they voted for. The erasure of Black History.
ancianita
(40,173 posts)That means it won't enforce the stripping of civilians' amendment rights anywhere in the public sphere. Not even under martial law.
Hekate
(96,882 posts)Here is something I never knew, growing up: during WWII women flew military planes across the US, after Rosie the Riveter was done building them. Women flew those planes to US military bases, then the men took them to war.
I didnt know this until a close friend of my mothers died well into my own adulthood, and her daughter brought out the scrapbook. I never knew Eileen did that. She was an underpaid secretary with a wacky sense of humor the whole time I knew her.
But see, when women pilots in the 1960s wanted to break into the elite male club of the major airlines the narrative was this: the men had gotten their training and skills in the military during WWII and after. And women had not so women did not have the number of hours on their records that men had.
Womens history used to be erased all the time and now it will again.
I remember that an Air Force Base, Tinker AFB I believe, was named after one of the women ferry pilots who was killed in the line of duty.
Edit to say that this is not correct.
The base does have a statue honoring a generic"Rosie the Riveter'"
Guess google IS my friend.
Sorry
ancianita
(40,173 posts)It's just not going to happen.
Women's history, like all of the world's histories, won't be perfect. And it's likely that many great, accomplished humans have not been included in history. That doesn't mean they're erased, but there is only so much human record that can be included in histories. But whatever evidence and life stories historians access through all kinds of information streams, and other countries' histories of us, will remain. Even the 4,000 year process of the canonized Bible still has what are called the Apocrypha sitting in millions of libraries. There are thousands of digital archives and millions of photo albums. Furthermore, even a totalitarian country can't just buy a new history. What's been in US history books will remain in US history.
Women's history is global, broad and deep, and still being written as sure as we're alive. This seminal, original 3 volume set from 2003 is now the 4 volume set in 2025.
hellacia
(15 posts)And howls "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever" to thunderous applause and the votes of millions of Americans.
Call this what it is, the return of official segregation. We don't have to look to Germany to recognize this, the US had a fascist regime ruling the South for decades. It was called Jim Crow. Now the Republicans are going to give the entire country a big ol' heaping dose of Jim Crow and we're going to do nothing, aren't we?
Cha
(308,868 posts)

TY

AZJonnie
(568 posts)If so, wooooooow. I hadn't heard that. That would be very disappointing
Cha
(308,868 posts)was reported on here that they performed at the Maniac's Inaugural.
Wiz Imp
(4,419 posts)2024: Who did Snoop Dogg vote for?
Even though in 2020, Snoop Dogg declared he would be voting for the first time to get Trump out of office, he faced criticism four years later for not endorsing a candidate ahead of the election, and addressed the issue in a viral post.
"I'm not looking for separation, I'm not looking for division I'm looking for people to come together," Snoop said on social media after the election. "And I just want to say this: when all of the hoopla was going on with the voting, notice how I was nowhere to be seen?"
"I wanted it to be like that, because I don't believe in separating people. I believe in bringing us together... If you're picking and choosing, now I gotta make people mad at me, because I chose this or chose that. I don't choose neither one," he added.
AZJonnie
(568 posts)He got his mind on his money and his money on his mind. I'm betting he voted for Harris but didn't want to be public about it.
obamanut2012
(28,347 posts)He is a Magat, period
Wiz Imp
(4,419 posts)I guess that makes Beyonce a right winger...
COL Mustard
(7,287 posts)It's HISTORY, for fuck's sake!
They played a significant role in the air war over Europe, and many paid the ultimate price. There's a nice display in the Pentagon (at least for now, I guess) about the Tuskegee Airmen and how valued they were. Ask a B-17 or B-24 pilot whose ass they saved!
And before you ask, I'm white, male and served in the Army so I don't have a dog in the hunt. I just hate seeing the truth whitewashed.
brush
(59,334 posts)bombers during wwll. It's history and orange turd can try but he can't erase history.
Guess the Buffalo Soidliers will be next on the criminal's list to try to erase. You probably now of them, the 9th and 10th Calvary and 24th and 25th Infantries in the southwest during the Indian wars after the Civil War. The regiments also saved Teddy Roosevelt's Rough Riders during the Spanish American War.
trump can try but he can't erase real history.
surfered
(5,685 posts)KitFox
(260 posts)I thought the same reason he had General Milleys portrait removed from the Pentagon this week. Everyone with intellect and expertise, he disparagesfor example Doctor Fauci. He is susceptible to conspiracy theories, because he doesnt read or study for himself. He regurgitates what he hears on propaganda TV or social media. If it aligns with his racism and misogyny, all the better. He answers questions with pat phrases such as were looking at that, were doing a lot of things , well see what happens , because he has no clue. We could fill reams of names he is so obviously jealous and envious of and his subsequent actions of breaking, bullying, cruelty and destroying. He is the textbook sociopathic narcissist. I hope Tuskegee Airmen becomes a highly searched entry as searches for oligarchy did after President Bidens farewell address.
orleans
(35,799 posts)dear god -- if you exist -- PLEASE stop this asshole!!!
moniss
(6,828 posts)reading an investigative piece, in USA Today of all places, about a strong white supremacist/Christian Nationalist influence having established itself in the Air Force. The article compare it to other branches and in the AF it was much bigger. The cancer spread.
edhopper
(35,658 posts)by erasing history?
ananda
(31,377 posts)began with slavery.
Much of it has been lost forever, and white Magats
would like nothing better than to disappear or
whitewash all of it.
ancianita
(40,173 posts)Historically Black colleges' libraries have extensive archives and history sections, and so do all US libraries and most bookstores. Thousands of Black fiction and non-fiction authors are taught in American high schools and universities. Recent examples...I've read and highly recommend the middle two here, especially 400 Souls...
iluvtennis
(21,099 posts)GiqueCee
(1,997 posts)... and I hope is evil ass lands in the impeachment hot seat sooner rather than later, and the Sinister Six of SCOTUS right beside him. NO mercy. And that goes double, triple, and fourple for all the scum in both houses of Congress that enabled him. They're traitors, too.
JohnSJ
(98,196 posts)underpants
(189,507 posts)literally right in his face.
Horrible
Kingofalldems
(39,465 posts)Paladin
(29,866 posts)There ought to be coast-to-coast protest demonstrations over what's happening, right now.
What's going to remain of this country, once trump finishes wiping his ass with it?
Democratic leadership better get busy, in a big Goddamned hurry.
LudwigPastorius
(11,967 posts)He's done more for "the blacks" than Abraham Lincoln, Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson combined.
Codifer
(918 posts)One of the Tuskegee Pilots even had First Lady Eleanore Roosevelt as a Passenger.
What is that line from Orwell?
"Who controls the past controls the present.
Who controls the present controls the future."
I never new of a man who could fill so gawddamn many kind and reasonable people with such an overwhelming desire to slap the fucking smirk off of his face.
But as soon as some one takes him up on this dare; trump will call the National Guard...... and that will open up for him so many more cruel ways to make good people suffer.
Permanut
(6,905 posts)CentralMass
(16,080 posts)surfered
(5,685 posts)Recruitment is already down because of Trump's "sucker and loser" statement and it's a sure bet that Don Jr, Eric, and Ivanka aren't going to step in to fill the void. (I think they are out of Trump's Will if they ever join the military). So if the environment is not welcoming to minorities, then our readiness is diminished and Hegseth's binge drinking is not going to help.
Martin68
(25,239 posts)own history they think it is important to include and highlight, regardless of race, gender, or whatever other aspects are in play.
AZJonnie
(568 posts)Sounds more like the AF is 'interpreting' the order to stop DEI efforts to mean that this bit of history should not be taught. Could be wrong but that was what I got from what I read. Also
allegorical oracle
(4,392 posts)
RobertDevereaux
(1,985 posts)Defiance across the board.
Jit423
(1,097 posts)Emile
(33,545 posts)even deleting history to complete their goal.
LetMyPeopleVote
(160,445 posts)Link to tweet
https://www.tpr.org/military-veterans-issues/2025-01-26/u-s-air-force-resumes-teaching-about-tuskegee-airmen-and-wasp-following-outcry-over-dei-review
The Air Force paused that part of its basic training curriculum last week pending a review of its Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion policies.
On his first day in office, President Donald Trump issued executive orders prohibiting DEI in federal government agencies and the military. Newly confirmed Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth promised to make that a top priority.
By the end of the week, The San Antonio Express News first reported that videos about the Tuskegee Airmen and the Women Airforce Service Pilots or WASP were not being taught in basic training at Joint Base San Antonio Lackland......
In a statement, Lt. General Brian Robinson said that one group of trainees had missed this part of the curriculum due to the review, but no trainees will miss this block of instruction.
For years, conservatives have attacked DEI policies as being reverse discrimination. Historians point to the legacies of the Tuskegee Airmen and the WASP as examples of how diversity has made the U.S. military and the country stronger.