I know there's a lot going on right now but this doesn't sound good

[senseandsensibility]

RFK just removed every member of a scientific committee that advises the CDC on how vaccines should be used. According to the NYT: "The health secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. removed all 17 members of a CDC advisory panel in his latest move to dismantle years of vaccine policy."

So, we're just gonna wing it now?

[FirstLight]

1. Yep...

And I just read about a new COVID variant that is rising... with tummy symptoms! 😞

[Intractable]

2. Got a COVID booster today. Was told there will be an updated vaccine in the fall.

[Wounded Bear]

4. I'm worried how the VA is gonna handle this shit...

I've been getting regular flu and covid updates every fall. I sure hope that continues.

[progressoid]

24. Add to that the thousands of employees to be cut from the VA.

This is some scary shit!

My dad has had most of his retirement health care through the VA. Sure, it hasn't always been a smooth process. But it beats what he would have gotten from the civilian health care system. He's still kicking at 92!

[Sailingdiver]

32. they do not care

The pricks simply do not care about veterans.

They wax poetically about caring but their actions speak volumes.

RFK Jr is a damn disgrace and dangerous.

[Wounded Bear]

38. Don't I know it. Personally, I've been pretty satisfied with my VA health care...

but I'm certainly worried about what trump & co will do going forward.

Basically, I can't afford civilian healthcare, even with Medicare.

[vapor2]

60. His father would roll over

[bdamomma]

62. Not only Veterans

they don't care about humankind.

RFK Jr. is dangerous and is aiding and abetting an criminal felon in killing Americans.

[wolfie001]

45. I'll be getting mine!

That lying crank should be ignored if you want to keep yourself and your family safe. Of course, he was put into that position by the nastiest f6ck ever to set foot in the WH.

[NCDem47]

3. I guess I'll need to arrange to go to the UK or Canada for my future vaccinations.

that's if THAT doesnt become illegal.

so, so SAD how Trump has ruined the CDC. a world leader no more.

[soldierant]

48. Going there is probably legal. Coming back may be different.

[a kennedy]

5. WTAF!!!!!!

We are all gonna die. Is that what this gawd damn dictatorship wants??? 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬

[ananda]

17. Sure looks like it.

They must figure that their policies will hurt non-whites
more than whites.. and that rich white people will be able
to get vaccines and medical care regardless.

[rubbersole]

52. That's it.

The poors are disposable. The sooner the better.

[Trueblue Texan]

22. Yes, actually.

Only the compliant and loyal will survive if they have their way. But I doubt "the Left will allow it."

[COL Mustard]

27. Only some of us

Goobers can stay alive.

[Botany]

54. Yup

This is the planned murder of God only knows how many Americans.
Vaccines work, stop diseases, and save lives.

[yellow dahlia]

6. The situation in L.A. has taken the attention away from many other things

in need of attention.

Eg: The decision by SCOTUS on Friday that it is okay for DOGE hacker punks to have full access to sensitive data at SSA.

And meanwhile, in another decision, SCOTUS also prevented CREW from having FOIA access to what DOGE is doing in their governmental "duties".

[senseandsensibility]

7. Yes

Frustrating is an understatement. I wish cable news was able to divide their coverage into, say, four main segments. There are at least 4 major outrages a day that need to be addressed. One story, no matter how compelling, should not monopolize the news.

[yellow dahlia]

10. I agree.

It is a pattern of playing to the most sensational. Unfortunately, it facilitates the distractions and "shiny object" tactics of the grifter.

[GiqueCee]

13. If it bleeds, it leads...

... That's been the M$M's motto for more than a century.

[ForgedCrank]

8. That dude

has a screw loose. It's hard to believe he has a position of authority

[GiqueCee]

16. If that worm...

... had stuck around for dessert, we wouldn't have to deal with this raving psychopath.

[DeeDeeNY]

26. From the sound of things -

It sounds like that brain worm is the one now calling the shots

[GiqueCee]

31. BINGO!

[spanone]

9. IDIOCRACY, THE DOCUMENTARY

This shit is almost too much to take in....Holy shit.

[senseandsensibility]

11. The too much to take in part is really dangerous

I'm afraid people will start tuning out because it is just too overwhelming.

[spanone]

19. That's a real possibility.

[calimary]

23. And I bet the bad guys know it.

Overwhelm and suppress.

[notinkansas]

64. Bannon's playbook. Disgusting.

[Bev54]

12. You might have to follow the Canadian's PHAC

that stands for Public Health Agency of Canada. I suspect some of your scientists will end up here as have specialized Doctors and Nurses have.

[Skittles]

14. HE is now the "authority" on vaccines

THAT FUCKING NUTCASE

[Kablooie]

44. Qanon knows much more about viruses than all these scientists.

We know that because that’s where the presidents info comes from.

[surfered]

15. It's worth repeating...

[dutch777]

18. Won't be winging it...he'll put in place the whacko medical fringe and have really bad ideas. Canada, here we come!

I wouldn't blame them if they wouldn't let us in, but may come down to getting smart, rational med care for some things, like vaccines, may take a trip across the border. If you know what you want/need you can also go to Mexico, every little podunk pharmacy will dispense just about anything to anybody. Can't vouch for the material sourcing but they'll sell it to you. I wonder how the average general practitioner is going to deal with this down the road?

[Tom Dyer]

20. Less than ideal, I'm thinkin'.

[senseandsensibility]

34. You and me both

I hope this doesn't fall through the cracks with all the protest stuff. The administration needs to answer for this.

[JT45242]

21. Not wing it replaced with 17 conspiracy theorists and loyalists

Loyalty to mango Mussolini is the only required reason for any job in the government

[allegorical oracle]

28. I just read a newsfeed story about this and it said he plans on replacing the fired members. Bet

he doesn't do it.

All these turds want to be the lone voices of their various domains. That keeps them from being answerable to anybody except the fetid fathead. This whole administration gives off the feeling that they're all winging it -- making it up as they go along (or TSF tells them what they should say and do.)

[AdamGG]

25. CDC will now rely exclusively

on Joe Rogan's recommendations...

[Janbdwl72]

30. Kennedy is just a terrible, horrible nightmare of an appointee.

As usual for the Felon's appointees, he lied before the Senate committee during his confirmation hearings. He has continued his anti-vaccine crusades, often in below the headlines ways, since he first took office. He is indeed deplorable.

Any statements he makes saying he will protect the rights of Americans who wisely choose to use vaccines cannot be trusted.

[magicarpet]

33. Medical consultants for RFKJr,....

Rogan as you said - and Alex Jones,... the most informed and update medical practitioners in the USA.

Buy their supplements from their merch page and you are guaranteed to live until you are 300 years old.

[Buns_of_Fire]

29. Remember, Krasnov hires nothing but the best... lunatics. nt

[notinkansas]

65. He's really outdone himself

with these cabinet picks. Every one of them is absolutely unqualified. By design.

[Just Jerome]

35. Who's ready

for a swim?

[Dem4life1970]

36. We'll see if Brain Worm's ideas outlast the 4 years of the Republican False Messiah's govt.

[FloridaBlues]

37. What I am very upset about is the silence of the medical associations all of them

They are the voices we need to be the loudest on what is happening to CDc , NIH , etc. unfortunately crickets.

[senseandsensibility]

39. Yes, that is alarming

Does anyone know what is behind that?

[Just Jerome]

41. You would think

that the AMA would be frothing and screeching.

[Tranquil72]

40. No, he'll just appoint a bunch of friends and fellow travelers

It’s not a large group, but enough to fill the seats. And he’ll pretend he’s doing it for the good of people everywhere.

[moniss]

42. Probably looking to appoint

Aaron Rodgers, Joe Rogan, Laura Loomer and a fortune teller to advise him in advance of how it all will go.

[LiberalArkie]

43. Trump did it before Covid broke out

Exclusive: U.S. axed CDC expert job in China months before virus outbreak https://www.reuters.com/article/world/exclusive-us-axed-cdc-expert-job-in-china-months-before-virus-outbreak-idUSKBN21910R/]

[Martin68]

46. Back to the Dark Ages as fast as they can accomplish it. Anti-science, anti-democracy, anti-rule-of-law,

anti-constitution, anti-morality, anti-ethics, anti-humanity.

[Buddyzbuddy]

47. Honestly, would you trust anything comining out of that Dept. under this administration?

It's not the researchers or scientists fault.
We should not trust anything coming out of the Whitehouse on down. Unlike the right-wing nutjobs, it's a temporary situation for us, 3.5 years. We know Gov't can and will work when this criminally run regime is out.

[yellow dahlia]

49. Did you see Lawrence?

He made several points about how the distraction that the grifter is providing, by creating an issue in LA, is pulling attention away from all the other things that the grifter doesn't want us to see. He also mentioned the RFK firing of vaccine experts at CDC as one of the atrocities that is going on unnoticed, because the media is being distracted.

[flying-skeleton]

50. Democratic Governors should......

Democratic Governors should jointly appoint a shadow scientific community CDC to represent their states. Red states not invited.

[Klarkashton]

51. Lots of people will get sick and he will blame it on the

Color of fruit loops.

[Orrex]

57. That, and they'll blame it on longterm side effects of the actual COVID vaccine.

[Emile]

53. So this is the new Republican healthcare plan.

[GopherGal]

63. Same as the old Repuke healthcare plan...

per Alan Grayson

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[Botany]

55. We need the science back into medical science. Either RFK Jr. is barking mad or he wants to kill Americans

He just fired all 17 SCIENTISTS from the CDC who advise on vaccines.

“Medical science refers to the branch of knowledge that studies the human body, health, and diseases. It encompasses a wide range of disciplines, including:

Anatomy: The study of the structure and function of the body's organs and systems.

Physiology: The study of how the body's organs and systems work.

Biochemistry: The study of the chemical processes that occur in the body.

Microbiology: The study of microorganisms, such as bacteria and viruses.

Pathology: The study of diseases and their causes.

Pharmacology: The study of drugs and their effects on the body.

Medical science aims to understand the mechanisms of health and disease, develop treatments and preventive measures, and improve human well-being. It plays a crucial role in advancing medical knowledge, diagnosing and treating illnesses, and promoting healthcare advancements.”

[Joinfortmill]

56. He's a menace and a disgrace to his family and his country. He should be removed from his position.

[Javaman]

58. just rub some dirt in it, that'll fix ya real good.

it's almost as if he's wanting another pandemic..."almost".

[OldBaldy1701E]

59. No, they are well aware of what they are doing.

They want those who are not beholden to their green god to die.

Period.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

61. Maddow Blog-RFK Jr. breaks promise to senators, guts CDC vaccine panel of independent experts

Before his confirmation, the HHS secretary said he’d leave the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices alone. Now he’s doing the opposite.

That an unqualified, anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist is behaving like an unqualified, anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist is painfully predictable.

But the fact remains that 52 Senate Republicans were given an opportunity to protect Americans from RFK Jr. — and they failed spectacularly.

— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-06-10T13:46:55.481Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/cdc-vaccine-panel-acip-rfk-jr-kennedy-rcna212007

In early February, when there was still some question as to whether or not the Senate would confirm Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to lead the Department of Health and Human Services, Sen. Bill Cassidy delivered a closely watched speech on the Senate floor. The Louisiana Republican, a physician by trade, not only endorsed the anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist during his remarks, he offered assurances about the future.

“If confirmed, [Kennedy] will maintain the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices — without changes,” Cassidy declared with confidence, pointing to assurances he’d received directly from RFK Jr.

Four months later, as NBC News reported, Cassidy has been proven wrong.

The 17 members of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s independent vaccine advisory committee are being removed from their posts, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said Monday afternoon.

.....Complicating matters is the degree to which these new developments add to a radical and dangerous pattern. Indeed, Kennedy’s announcement came just days after pediatric infectious disease expert Dr. Lakshmi Panagiotakopoulos resigned from her position as the co-leader of a CDC working group that advises outside experts on Covid vaccines.

In an email to colleagues, Panagiotakopoulos said, “My career in public health and vaccinology started with a deep-seated desire to help the most vulnerable members of our population, and that is not something I am able to continue doing in this role.”

Around the same time, The Associated Press reported that there’s some ambiguity as to who, exactly, is currently leading the CDC.

A New York Times report added:

Under Mr. Kennedy’s leadership, the F.D.A. has narrowed availability of Covid vaccines to adults 65 and older and Americans with certain underlying conditions. Mr. Kennedy later announced that the C.D.C. would no longer recommend the vaccines for healthy children or pregnant women, a decision that normally would have come from the agency’s A.C.I.P. ... He also oversees the National Institutes of Health, which halted funding for researchers who study vaccine hesitancy and canceled programs intended to discover new vaccines to prevent future pandemics. The department has also ended work crucial to developing an H.I.V. vaccine and a contract for a vaccine against bird flu.

As unsettling as the news has been, none of it is surprising. RFK Jr.’s anti-science reputation was well established long before Trump nominated him. That an unqualified, anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist is behaving like an unqualified, anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist is painfully predictable.

[senseandsensibility]

66. Important context

Thanks!

[Nigrum Cattus]

67. Brainworm logic

The cave men would be proud