Colorado judge who sentenced election denier Tina Peters to prison receives threats

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: ABC News/AP

October 4, 2024, 7:47 PM


A rural Colorado county courthouse beefed up security Friday after threats were made against staff and a judge who sentenced former county clerk Tina Peters to nearly nine years behind bars and admonished her for her role in a data breach scheme catalyzed by the lie that the 2020 election was stolen from former President Donald Trump.

Courthouse staff in Grand Junction, Colorado, received multiple threats that were being vetted by law enforcement while extra security was provided, said spokesperson Wendy Likes with the Mesa County Sheriff's Office. She did not say how many threats were made or how they were received. She also declined to describe the extra security.

The court received compliments as well as threats for Judge Matthew Barrett’s sentencing of Peters, Will Sightler, the court executive of the 21st Judicial District, said in a statement Friday. He didn't elaborate on what the compliments said. Peters, a Republican, was sentenced Thursday for allowing access to the county's election system to a man affiliated with My Pillow chief executive Mike Lindell — a prominent promoter of false claims that voting machines were manipulated to steal the election.

The one-time hero to election deniers, who was convicted in August, was unapologetic about what happened during the sentencing hearing Thursday — leading Judge Barrett to chastise her during a 15-minute speech that was shared widely online. He told Peters she sought power and fame in pursuing false election fraud claims, causing immeasurable damage to election integrity in Mesa County. He said she had no respect for the checks and balances of government, for the court, law enforcement or her colleagues and that she betrayed her oath of office, making her a danger to the community.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/colorado-judge-sentenced-election-denier-tina-peters-prison-114519167

[samnsara]

1. isnt there some way to trace these threats?

[gab13by13]

4. 3 years ago

Merrick Garland stated that when Kristen Clarke is approved to the civil rights division of DOJ that these threats to public officials will be addressed.

[Autumn]

12. She's been the head of the civil rights division of the doj since 2021. What's the hold up?

[paleotn]

14. Good question.

[markodochartaigh]

47. Perhaps, to show that it is a

"both sides" problem, they are waiting for the first Democratic perpetrator to prosecute.

/s

[bucolic_frolic]

5. Threats will continue until they prosecute, convict, incarcerate, fine PROMPTLY

The fact that nothing ever happens suggests there are not local actors. Probably all the same crew, from Trump strongholds or outside the US. Maybe our laws need strengthening. These are the thugs that Trump never mentions.

[3Hotdogs]

6. I disagree that "nothing ever happens." D.U. has a small but steady stream of posts about people prosecuted for

threats to officials and to members of the public.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. Yeah, but that is smidgeon of the huge overall problem

Not only on DU, but the threateners who are prosecuted need to have their cases publicized much more in the broader media so that the message gets out that 1) It is not civilized, 2) It is very illegal.

[Bev54]

27. Yes but they only have so many resources and many of these should be handled by the state.

They have a task force, it takes a time to find and prosecute but they are doing it as much as they can. The system is overwhelmed because the head of the snake is still out there inciting his followers, thanks to SCOTUS.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

35. SCotUS? Flash: tRump is NOT president. Anyway, incitement to violence is never an official act. . . . . nt

[Bev54]

36. He is still the head of the snake and if incitement is not an official act, please tell SCOTUS.

We know that and so do the SC 6 but they seem to think anything he does or says in the Oval office is, but that is not the point. The point is the head of the snake is still free, still inciting his supporters to continue their threats and overwhelming all systems and agencies.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

37. You won't be able to show me where in the SCotUS decision it okays inciting violence

if incitement is not an official act, please tell SCOTUS.

You made SCotUS explicitly your point. Even though they delayed proceedings, tRump would still be running free even if they had not spent any time making their ruling and even if they had not been called on to get involved.

For incitement to be okay, it would have to be in a President's official duties. There is no way that inciting civil violence advances the strength and unity of the UNITED States. A President has no authority to attack the institutions of the US violently or by proxy. Using violence to thwart democracy and block the peaceful transfer of power violates the oath to defend the US Constitution which is constructed to use democracy and enable the peaceful transfer of power.

You will not be able to show that are official duties or allowed by the Oath of Office.

You will need to show that to support your post.

There is much over-reaction to the SCotUS decision, flawed though it is. On this forum and in the Party, we will succeed more if we don't over-react.

[Bev54]

39. I am not overreacting in sense of the word and certainly did not make SCOTUS explicitly my point.

My point was the system being overwhelmed and you may interpret the decision but it is quite simply not clear and I believe that is on purpose. So if he gets someone in his DOJ to crime for him, he is totally untouchable the way they have written it, but that is for the experts to decipher not me. Please accept that I know what my point is when I post it.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

41. I can't read your mind to know. I can only read what you actually post

Your intentions become moot the instant your post becomes a public thing.

You can go back to clarify and extend and expound and explain your intentions, but until you do that, your post is the only thing.

[Bev54]

42. Can't read my mind but willing to misinterpret my comments and then insist to me

what my point is. I have reread my comment and standby it.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

44. I read what you wrote. If you are the first to highlight SCotUS, then it is your point

Then you go back to them in your second post. So it is your point.

But if at this moment you claim it is not your point, then okay I suppose. Thank you for clarifying, though it might have been better not to mention them since they are extraneous to your point.

[Bev54]

45. Go bother someone else, I have zero interest in your opinion of my comment, nor your judgement.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

46. To avoid comment and replies, don't post publicly. . . . nt

[AZ8theist]

49. You two need to get a room....

[usaf-vet]

13. The overlying problem has existed for years. The problem is local bodys (local governments) CAN NOT stop or control.....

..... internet-based abuses.

Here is an example of why I believe (know) that only the government has the tools and the power to address these problems.

The Children's Internet Protection Act (CIPA) was enacted by Congress in 2000 to address concerns about children's access to obscene or harmful content over the Internet.

In 2004, I was hired as a private consultant to manage the computer network of a small K-12 rural school. One of the biggest concerns and problems was stopping porn from getting into our private internal network.

Initially, schools would work with their ISP Internet Service Provider to block porn at their level before routing it on to their customers. That solution worked for a short time. Until the ISPs couldn't block all the porn that was passing through their system, as some of their customers wanted access to porn sites.

Very quickly, new businesses came online to provide software AND hardware to "interrupt" porn from getting to the computers the students had access to. That meant that the porn that got through our firewall (front door) would now need to be filtered before passing it on to student-accessible computers. This is where the new combination of software and hardware that each school was out of necessity (to meet CIPA requirements) was required to buy these solutions.

If memory serves me right, the cost of those solutions started at ~$15,000 and ranged upward to ~$25,000 per year. Very quickly, the providers decided to charge a base fee of ~ $15k—$25k and then add a per-student fee on top. Note: I said per student, not per computer.

Soon, the small district I supported cost the district 30K to 35K per year for "porn filtering".

So, let's look at the additional problems the CIPA law caused.

Each district initially needed to interact with the software/hardware provider regularly to point them to problems that needed to be addressed so that the software side of the system could be tweaked to "plug specific porn problems."

Here is one of the first ones I ran into. Breasts....seriously. Staff was catching students surfing to sites where female breasts were visible. So I contacted the porn filtering provider and gave them the websites that were the problem. Overnight, that site and others were blocked. Problem solved! For less than a day. Soon, I heard from the health teacher that any discussion of breast cancer was inaccessible. Next, the art teacher told me that sites that displayed masterpieces of statues and paintings were inaccessible.

Two more problems, and you will get to the point of this lengthy discussion.
1. Soon, the porn provider moved their operations offshore, preventing the FBI and other agencies from raiding and closing them down.
2. The final nail in the coffin of stopping porn in schools. SMARTPHONES in each student's pocket.

Twenty years later, after I started to try to prevent porn in schools, the problem is worse.

Smartphones are still a significant problem in every school, city, and state.

Only the government has the tools and the power to address these problems.

I got to retire ten years ago, but the problems are still there. And the only solution IMO is government intervention

[bucolic_frolic]

21. Details too complicated for my simple mind

I bet they couldn't now Google "First Lady Melanoma" without coming up with some bare breasts!

[usaf-vet]

29. To complicated WAS exactly what I wanted to point out. Individuals CAN'T fix this level of complexity. Only goverments!

"First Lady Melanoma"

Good one; thanks for the LOL

[jaxexpat]

30. The interwebs have always been lawless. Regulations have always been patchwork.

I only know of one politician with the foresight to anticipate this phenomenon. The real winner of the 2000 election. The PTB handily removed him from relevance. He was not only on the path to revealing the culprits and remedies for climate change, but he was aiming at administering the frontier of the internet. Since his removal both issues have worsened, his reputation and legacy ridiculed, placed alongside that of buffoons and charlatans. I don't think that's purely coincidental as it happens to many truth sayers whose message goes against the trajectory of powerful interests with money to purchase the loyalty of base traitors to truth such as Mitch, Lindsey and Gym, to name but a few. Let's see.......who would prefer the US devolve into the chaos of laughably incompetent leadership rather than expose and intelligently react to the challenges of this newish century? Whor would ever support them?

[usaf-vet]

33. I only know of one politician with the foresight to anticipate this phenomenon.... my one guy would be Paul Wellstone.

[jaxexpat]

34. Thanks for the reminder. I'd forgotten. The PTB had their way with him for that.

They are serious.

[Upthevibe]

40. jaxexpat............

. How often I have wondered where we'd be if Al Gore had become President as he should have.......

[jaxexpat]

48. The 2000 election was a revelation of western civilization's fragility and ultimate collapse.

It was a shocking but unmistakable sign to all with an objective historical perspective. The first evidence of triumphant propaganda to be seen since the 1960's, it exposed the awful truth of how firmly entrenched the spirits of blind ambition and wild-eyed gullibility were in American culture. It foretold of how ruthlessly it was likely to play out.

And yeah. It would all have gone down much better if Florida's votes had been counted and Gore had assumed his rightful place. Eight years of pretending the useless jerk was anything but a messenger boy for corporate interests was hard on society.

[Scrivener7]

2. Because of course. The man-babies are mad that someone who flagrantly

violated our most basic national right should be held to account for it.

[Walleye]

3. The flying MAGA monkeys are always ready.Bidenomics must've given them a lot of disposable income to play with

[paleotn]

17. Yep. Exactly.

Damn that Biden!

I can't wrap my head around what drives cult mentality, so I'm at a loss on what makes people this fucking stupid.

[bottomofthehill]

7. If you threaten a judge you must be tracked down and charged

It is the only way to stop this from happening and restore faith in the legal system.

[Sugarmaggie]

8. Trump has given folks the greenlight to bully

Threats against hospital staff or judiciary. The toothpaste is out of the tube and Trump has created this environment.


https://apnews.com/article/threats-federal-judges-us-marshals-alarming-a6a5398d6d09cf057eb5317592c8d299

[Evolve Dammit]

53. Spot on

[The Wizard]

9. When will law enforcement

find these domestic terrorists and lock them up ? Or is law enforcement part of the problem?
We thought we defeated these scumbags in 1945.

[LisaM]

11. This is why doxxing is never okay.

Im the height of the CHAZ/BLM summer in Seattle, one of the city council members led groups of angry people to the mayor's house. Mayor Durkan, who had been a former federal prosecutor, objected to this, reminding people that federal judges are frequently in the line of fire for people angry with their decisions and that you can't just let everyone know where they live. Jenny Durkan was right. Judges need to be protected. I hope the Colorado judge, the staff, and all their families are safe.

[Mysterian]

15. Comes with the territory

My father was a judge and received death threats from scumbag criminals and their wretched friends and family.

[paleotn]

16. Prosecuting the threat mongers? Wapo did a story on just this topic the other day...

related to those who threaten election officials.

snip...

https://wapo.st/4eLZb8p

Task force chief John Dixon Keller, who works in Justice’s public integrity unit, acknowledged a gap between what the public sees as dangerous and the federal government’s ability to prosecute cases. An offensive slur might feel threatening, for example, but such a message, by itself, is not usually criminally prosecutable.

Unfortunately, DOJ thinks it's complicated and maybe it is. I'm not a First Amendment expert. State laws vary on the subject. NC has a pretty stringent law about communicating threats. So does VT. But then again...First Amendment...and where's the line denoting what's beyond protected speech? It's pretty clear to me and I don't believe the Constitution is a suicide pact, where we abide by its letter while the damn democracy burns down around our heads. On rare occasions, as a practical matter, our government may need to step outside the letter of law in order to fulfill their oath to protect the Constitution. Lincoln did it. And I firmly support the concept. But that's just me.

[BumRushDaShow]

22. "as a practical matter, our government may need to step outside the letter of law"

THAT is a slippery slope that I don't want to see any LEO broach because as we have seen through history, certain groups get it applied to them disproportionately.

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/867532070/trumps-unannounced-church-visit-angers-church-officials

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-dystopian-lincoln-memorial-photo-raises-a-grim-question-will-they-protect-us-or-will-they-shoot-us/2020/06/03/7a1c52b4-a5b7-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html

[paleotn]

26. I know. Trust me, I get it. It's dangerous but.....

in addition to the Confederates, Lincoln was also at war with the federal judiciary on habeas corpus, press freedom and a number of other things. He felt he had to in order to fulfill his oath to protect the Constitution and preserve the Union. Many thought the Emancipation Proclamation itself was illegal under federal and state law at the time. Not saying we definitely are, but we may be at one of those inflection points. In my mind, what's profitable about feeling good about ourselves for sticking to the letter of the law after the Republic is burned to the ground and we live in a fascist state? Guess I'm one of those do a little evil for a whole lot of good kind of guys.

[BumRushDaShow]

31. Don't forget that a dozen Constitutional Amendments

and hundreds of federal laws were passed since his assassination, and that included the Judiciary Act of 1869 that expanded the SCOTUS to its current size of 9.

I.e., there were attempts to put guardrails in place and that continues to this day.

I have posted a number of times that our whole system of government operates on "the honor system" and right now, we have one group within a party, who have ditched "honor", and ARE willing to go "extra-judicial" (and have done so in a limited capacity).

Once you go down that road with retaliatory "extra-judicial" moves, we're done. They know this and it's why they are goading and egging it on.

[mdbl]

18. Tina Peters would make a perfect Sovereign Citizen

if she isn't one already.

[DENVERPOPS]

54. Hope she isn't vain

I would love to see a picture of her in a year, with no lipstick, no hair dye, no hair dresser, no botox......

To be sure, once again a peon got nailed, and the "big guys" run free..........I am so tired of the low hanging fruit getting it, and the true conspirators and planners and instigators walking free in society......Look no further than J6th.....of course the 1000+ sitting in prison were guilty, but the true perps were Trump, Republican Senators, Bill Barr, the USSC, etc etc etc

There are hundreds, if not thousands, of Politicians and Wall Street types that are guilty of Insider Trading, and they all got together and nailed Martha Stewart for an insider trade of 50K, if that..........AND, most of all, They Showed Her, not to mess in THEIR male dominated/owned world.....

Just look at that U.S. Senator, (who is the wife of the President of the New York Stock exchange), I can't remember her name. After getting inside information about Covid, the SEC said she that she had made at least 20 Million worth of stock trades and stock purchases THAT AFTERNOON. And that the SEC said it was still going on checking all of her trades in the first 24 hours......... There were countless other Republican Senators that did the same thing with the insider information, and you can bet your sweet bippy, they tipped off countless other Republican Senators, Republican Donors, and Republican Oligarchs in the first hour after leaving the meeting.....They all doctored their investments by getting rid of any stock/investment that was gonna crash during the Covid pandemic, and bought stocks, made investments in Corporations whose profits would excel tremendously in the Pandemic.

[LymphocyteLover]

19. I'd be more surprised if there WEREN'T threats from the MAGA terrorists

[Paladin]

24. Least surprising news of the day, unfortunately. (nt)

[KS Toronado]

25. Every time I read something like this

I worry about a possible bloodbath around Nov 5th when KFC gives MAGAts marching orders
when it's obvious he's lost again.

[flying_wahini]

28. I'm not worried that there will be a bloodbath. They don't have enough loonies with guns to take over.

There may be some outbreaks here and there of crazies with guns. I think most Republicans aren’t going to head to the grocery store to kill citizens.
The real danger comes from the election clerks. They can’t win it any other way so the actual cheating is where they will go; up the chain of command. Even then the right people in the right places would have to work perfectly in 5-6 States to do it. This is a gang of clowns. Probably not gonna happen.

[KS Toronado]

52. That's what I see, some outbreaks here and there

most likely in swing States and put down fairly quickly. But there will be blood spilled somewhere.

[DENVERPOPS]

55. Sorry, but I disagree

With all that we have seen, and all that we have witnessed, and also given the importance of this Election to the future of Corporations, Republican Politicians, Wanna be tyrants, the top 1%ers, etc etc,
And their propensity for violence by the literal mindless 70 million MAGAots, I expect more, much more. I could see a situation where J6th occurs at every State's Capitol across the entire country, esp in BLUE States........

Trump didn't command them to Stand Back, and Stand Down...... he stated: Stand Back, an Stand By...........

[KS Toronado]

56. You make some real valid points POPS

there could be more violence than anyone expects. I know someone in my town that would love to shoot
me or at least do a drive-by shooting. Plus we know he'll try everything possible to stay out of prison
and he doesn't care one little bit about harm done to others.

Got my 12ga loaded with buck shot in case I need it. Hoping we all stay safe.

[DENVERPOPS]

57. I sure hope

it is Double OO magnums, and you considered chopping off the barrel to like 16" or whatever is barely legal.......

[KS Toronado]

58. It is Double OO magnums

KS has laws about cutting barrels down so it's staying full length. Got my dad's 410 Taurus Judge after
he passed on, it's got double 00 for duty inside the house, heaven forbid.

[DENVERPOPS]

60. Oh Wow

I know a gal who has Two of those......One in the driver's side door compartment of her car, the other in a holster on the back of her headboard where she can easily reach through and upward to the back of the headboard.
She also loads them with 00 410 loads.......I know how much my 1897 Winchester kicks with 00 magnum 12 gauge, I can't imagine holding your or her gun in my hand and firing it......

[Old Crank]

32. Law enforcement needs to start dragging these people in

Let them know death threats aren't legal.
And they can find you and your violent posterior.

[Upthevibe]

38. BumRushDaShow.......

No surprise.

These people need to be hunted down, charged crimes, and put in prison.

[DENVERPOPS]

61. These creepoids are coming out of the woodwork

One group is all the "Karens"......they should call them MAGAHAGS.......

Sometimes, I think this impending nightmare election and 70+ Million MAGAots, could actually be worse than anything experienced in the entire history of our beloved Democracy. Including the Revolutionary War and Civil War.......

My wife says we need to load up on food and ammo in case the MAGAots lose, and go absolutely Road Warrior on Dems, Minorities, Non-Christians, and gays in America.

I told her that if that type of lawless anarchy happens, all I need is three bullets.............

[iluvtennis]

43. They just refuse to accept the TRUTH. She had a trial and was found GUILTY. She/other MAGATs are not above the law.

[LuckyLib]

50. I listened to his full 15 minute sentencing speech.

It was fabulous. Should be required for Magats everywhere.

[RTT]

51. Ivan Raiklin Rewarded by the Leo/Koch Donor Machine

Maybe tied to Ivan Raiklin's ongoing efforts to incite violence. (?)

For years, Raiklin has repeatedly, publicly given out complete contact numbers and addresses of Courts, Judges, and urged his QAnon/MAGA militant followers to target & protest at those locations. Including 12/2023, when the Colorado Supreme Court disqualified Trump from appearing on CO 2024 Gen. Election Ballot. (Of course, SCOTUS rejected that, so I find it even more unsettling that Leo/Koch donors appear to have just rewarded Raiklin with funding (tax-free) to continue his work (see below).

Per his Twitter account, Raiklin was instrumental in being the liaison between Trump & GOP lawmakers at key times, like 12/2022 - 1/2023 when Trump/Raiklin threatened McCarthy to drop out of Speaker quest. In fact, some of those Tweets indicated Trump planned to be Speaker of the House, himself.

Raiklin has also been a main actor in the "complete campaigns" to threaten, incite Trump Cult followers to threaten key Govt. staff/officials handling COVID, etc. Raiklin has an infamous video where he got a seat in a Hearing for Dr. Rochelle Walensky, right in front of where she was to speak. He had someone video the encounter (video still available). As Dr. Walensky walked up to her seat, Raiklin walked up to her, as if it was a professional courtesy, shook her hand and said, " I really look forward to you testifying about your involvement in murdering 38,000 Americans (during COVID)." At first Walensky graciously smiled, and shook Raiklin's hand, having absolutely no idea who he was, or that Raiklin was instrumental in her "tribunal." What Raiklin said obviously wasn't the truth, but is an example of how Raiklin is involved in the complete campaigns that have the effect of the far-right "tribunals." Raiklin has also urged followers to video live swatting raids of Trump's perceived enemies.

Raiklin and his son, similarly sat behind Dr. Fauci, and when Fauci testified that he and his family received death threats, Raiklin's son started making faces behind Fauci's back and started laughing. It is my understanding that, never before in the history of Congress in our country where private citizens can make a mockery of Congressional business like this. If there are other examples, please let me know.

It is also believed Raiklin's brother is still a Russian citizen, living in Russia.

It seems Raiklin has been "rewarded" for all of his campaigns to spread dangerous lies, and causing tribunals of govt. officials doing their job by being appointed as a Board Member of Mike Flynn's non-profit America's Future Foundation (EIN Presswire, 6/27/2024). Per Source Watch, Talent Market is a Project in America's Future Foundation, which was a LCC vehicle of donor funds (Donor's Trust) for Koch brothers and Leonard Leo for many years before it became a non-profit for Mike Flynn. Oddly, EIN Presswire, who initially posted the article pulled the non-profit's press release.

According to their website, America's Future Foundation also accepts public donations.

What I find sickening about the continuation of threats to anyone in the way of the Trump Int'l. Mob is the fact our Justice system/Financial systems (or Congress) have had absolutely no interest or effect to stop the insane money trail that flows from/to Leonard Leo & violence. These Board appointments, using non-profit Mob funding seem like an Int'l. Mob rewarding Flynn & Raiklin. How can GOP even consider this ongoing Mob activity to even resemble contributing to our country?

I also think this could be where a lot of GOP money is going to -- to efforts for a violent coup. Possibly GOP knows the Pres. race is close, so if they divert $'s to the violent coup planners, it would be money well spent (for them at least) to have Trump take over by a violent coup.

[prodigitalson]

59. and that illustrates perfectly why she needed the long sentence she got

hopefully her supporters making the threats can join her