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Drum

(9,776 posts)
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 09:10 AM Oct 8

Trump Secretly Stayed in Touch With Putin After Leaving Office, Book Says

Source: New York Times

Former President Donald J. Trump has secretly spoken with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia as many as seven times since leaving office, even as he was pressuring Republicans to block military aid to Ukraine to fight Russian invaders, according to a new book by the journalist Bob Woodward.

The book, titled “War” and scheduled to be published next week, describes a scene in early 2024 at Mar-a-Lago, Mr. Trump’s estate in Florida, when the former president ordered an aide out of his office so he could conduct a phone call with Mr. Putin. The unidentified aide said the two may have spoken a half-dozen other times as well since Mr. Trump left the White House.

The book also reports that Mr. Trump, while still in office early during the Covid-19 pandemic in 2020, secretly sent Mr. Putin what were then rare tests for the virus for the Russian’s personal use. Mr. Putin, who has been described as particularly concerned about being infected at the time, urged Mr. Trump to not publicly reveal the gesture because it could damage the American president politically. “I don’t want you to tell anybody because people will get mad at you, not me,” Mr. Putin reportedly told him.

The disclosures raise new questions about Mr. Trump’s relationship with Mr. Putin just weeks before an election that will determine whether the former president will reclaim the White House. A copy of the book was obtained by The New York Times. The Washington Post, where Mr. Woodward has worked for more than half a century, and CNN, where he often appears as a commentator, also reported on the book on Tuesday.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/08/us/politics/trump-putin-woodward-book.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Qk4.6a2E.BANp_swUqonw&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb





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Trump Secretly Stayed in Touch With Putin After Leaving Office, Book Says (Original Post) Drum Oct 8 OP
Working together to undermine American democracy BoRaGard Oct 8 #1
How is this legal or allowed? It's definitely an undermining of our Democracy and National Security Pachamama Oct 8 #47
Bet it was... 2naSalit Oct 8 #2
I don't think it is a secret. It's why Biden won't allow him to get national security briefings. onecaliberal Oct 8 #3
This is just one of a million reasons trump should not have access to anything above comics. erronis Oct 8 #4
Briefings Old Okie Oct 8 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 8 #24
The convicted felon doesn't know how to read in order to understand what... Justice matters. Oct 8 #41
How long has Bob Woodward known about this? CrispyQ Oct 8 #5
Far too many journalists withhold critical information so they can boost sales of an eventual book. Ramsey Barner Oct 8 #10
No doubt Haggie Haggerman knew every nuance and detail wolfie001 Oct 8 #14
And way too many Republicans are into it IronLionZion Oct 8 #6
So very post "Business Plot" of 1933 and pre-Pearl Harbor of them. They never change. LiberalArkie Oct 8 #25
"I just can't quit you." Midnight Writer Oct 8 #7
I wonder what else Trump sent Putin? Kid Berwyn Oct 8 #8
Okay DENVERPOPS Oct 8 #9
Actually, it was Robert Novak who... Gymbo Oct 8 #32
Thank you Gymbo DENVERPOPS Oct 8 #37
All in the spirit of strengthening the Earth's oligarchic domination jaxexpat Oct 8 #12
How about a campaign ad that says "Putin got our covid tests before you did". EarnestPutz Oct 8 #13
"No puppet... no puppet... you're the puppet." n/t Harker Oct 8 #15
Fuck fucking Woodward. Mawspam2 Oct 8 #16
So Donald is homegirl Oct 8 #17
Thanks for the laugh! MorbidButterflyTat Oct 8 #20
Pootie was always his first love FakeNoose Oct 8 #45
Treason ? republianmushroom Oct 8 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 8 #29
Seems to be to "POLITICAL" for this DOJ. republianmushroom Oct 8 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 8 #49
It's a secret? MorbidButterflyTat Oct 8 #19
burying the lead? PedroXimenez Oct 8 #21
True, that's a prominent part of the story, but DU guidelines necessitate I use the exact title of the article. Drum Oct 8 #23
right i meant them not you! PedroXimenez Oct 8 #26
... Drum Oct 8 #28
Of course as many of us here and elsewhere have said moniss Oct 8 #22
I'm sure this is being investigated now by DOJ and responsible (non-traitorous) members of Congress. n/t PatrickforB Oct 8 #27
Woodward downgraded from "journalist" to hack Wild blueberry Oct 8 #30
he has to report into his boss samsingh Oct 8 #31
I'm sure John Roberts will find a way to call this "official business" nt TBF Oct 8 #34
Trump is a Russian asset or spy. Putin is his handler. Oopsie Daisy Oct 8 #35
Melania is his handler - not Putin Pachamama Oct 8 #46
In other news orangecrush Oct 8 #36
Hello DOJ?? Come in dammit. TRAITOR stench Evolve Dammit Oct 8 #38
Should have been titled "treason" Layzeebeaver Oct 8 #39
Giving Vlad scarce resources. So much for Americans First Hassler Oct 8 #40
With a nod to "The Coasters" ( Little Eygpt) chouchou Oct 8 #42
So good to know he took care of the Russian dictator Farmer-Rick Oct 8 #43
Trying to figure out mercuryblues Oct 8 #44
Reason enough 4catsmom Oct 8 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 8 #50
"secretly" Skittles Oct 8 #51
The useless Logan Act Blue Owl Oct 8 #52
Trump says dweller Oct 8 #53
My takeaway from the article was the new moniker for Trump, courtesy of Joe Biden: LudwigPastorius Oct 8 #54
DOES ANYONE think they have not talked about UKRAINE? Captain Zero Oct 9 #55

Pachamama

(17,013 posts)
47. How is this legal or allowed? It's definitely an undermining of our Democracy and National Security
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 01:53 PM
Oct 8

Maybe I am naive - but I was always under the belief that there is only one President at a time and that former Presidents, unless they are attending some official event and a world leader is there they happen to know, should not be having any communications in private, in person or by telephone etc post-Presidency. Maybe an exception for a retired world leader - ie Angela Merkel - but NOT a current world leader of another country. And absolutely not with an enemy state leader.

Trump is a national security risk and an enemy of the state. When he hosted Netanyahu and Urban at Mar A Lago recently I was disgusted and it’s not ok.

I hope the FBI was listening in…

erronis

(16,844 posts)
4. This is just one of a million reasons trump should not have access to anything above comics.
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 09:24 AM
Oct 8

Of course the national security team in the US likely used trump to send ivan lots of fake shit

Old Okie

(194 posts)
11. Briefings
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 09:58 AM
Oct 8

Incorrect; he has been offered briefings but has declined. Don't think he is interested in reading them if he cannot keep them.

Response to Old Okie (Reply #11)

Justice matters.

(7,513 posts)
41. The convicted felon doesn't know how to read in order to understand what...
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 11:45 AM
Oct 8

the words on the pages mean, so it's no wonder the traitor doesn't care about them if he can't keep them to sell them to his dictators in exchange for $$$$$$$ for himself or his rotten offspring.

CrispyQ

(38,266 posts)
5. How long has Bob Woodward known about this?
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 09:25 AM
Oct 8

Just like his interview where Trump said he knew the virus was deadly. How long after Trump said that did it take Woodward to get the interview out? I would have thought that was breaking news. ??? And this too. ???

wolfie001

(3,640 posts)
14. No doubt Haggie Haggerman knew every nuance and detail
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 10:06 AM
Oct 8

She's planning for access I'm sure, and her editors at the NYTs know this as well. Billionaires have their reasons and resources to keep this sewage pipeline open at all costs. They have zero concern for freedom from christo-fascism.

I posted this at Reddit's political humor a while back. I'm on a 1 month ban for posting an anti-trump piece. This is an example of a compromised and once revered news source:

IronLionZion

(46,976 posts)
6. And way too many Republicans are into it
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 09:30 AM
Oct 8

Supporting America's enemy while thinking of themselves as patriots.

LiberalArkie

(16,504 posts)
25. So very post "Business Plot" of 1933 and pre-Pearl Harbor of them. They never change.
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 10:57 AM
Oct 8

Last edited Tue Oct 8, 2024, 12:40 PM - Edit history (1)

DENVERPOPS

(9,955 posts)
9. Okay
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 09:48 AM
Oct 8

now talk about Jared.............He was obviously gathering intel for he and Trump's spawn's own personal income trail.........

The Damage goes far far beyond just OUR intel. They also shared other nation's intel.......Now, those nations won't be as good about sharing intel in the future with the U.S.

Of course, the epitome of being an asshole, and sharing critical intel was Dick Cheney. He intentionally outed a CIA operative, Valerie Plame in retaliation for her husband daring to defy his lies about IRAQ having Yellow Cake Uranium...I have to believe that within the first 24 hours, there were bodies dropping all over the world........Any person, who had done business or had contact with her cover, (which was an import/export business), would have been suspected......and probably would have been "disappeared".....

The Republicans are above caring about treasonous acts, or fear of ever being punished.

Another example was when Trump, with members of Team Six on his plane, was taking pictures, THAT SHOWED THEIR FACES, and forwarding the pictures to news agencies across America. Those Seal's careers were ended.....forever.......

Gymbo

(140 posts)
32. Actually, it was Robert Novak who...
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 11:04 AM
Oct 8

...leaked Plame's name. Also, Karl Rove is suspected of talking to news services four days before the leak was published. I believe that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney knew about what was going down and may have even engineered it, but there is no proof of that.

DENVERPOPS

(9,955 posts)
37. Thank you Gymbo
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 11:19 AM
Oct 8

Cheney/Rumsfeld were the ones that Plame's husband had blown out of the water by contradicting that their "Yellowcake being ready" was pure BS.....
So I can only imagine that at least those two instigated the retaliation, regardless of who did the actual deed.....But thx for your clarification of who actually disclosed the Top Secret Info......

jaxexpat

(7,787 posts)
12. All in the spirit of strengthening the Earth's oligarchic domination
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 10:00 AM
Oct 8

Trump's fondest wish is to be accepted in that club.

MorbidButterflyTat

(2,633 posts)
20. Thanks for the laugh!
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 10:42 AM
Oct 8

It reminds me of that funny picture of a guy walking with his girlfriend while checking out another girl walking by... someone substituted the faces with *rump, Putin, and that sheik guy.

It was so funny!

FakeNoose

(35,687 posts)
45. Pootie was always his first love
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 12:07 PM
Oct 8

Just sayin'



When are we going to lock that TRAITOR up and throw away the key?

Response to republianmushroom (Reply #18)

republianmushroom

(17,650 posts)
33. Seems to be to "POLITICAL" for this DOJ.
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 11:08 AM
Oct 8

We shall see if it is to political for the next DOJ, or if it will be sweep under the rug, claiming, for the best interest of the nation, we forgive and forget. Time will tell.

Response to republianmushroom (Reply #33)

Drum

(9,776 posts)
23. True, that's a prominent part of the story, but DU guidelines necessitate I use the exact title of the article.
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 10:53 AM
Oct 8

You are welcome to cite an excerpt y’self.

moniss

(5,742 posts)
22. Of course as many of us here and elsewhere have said
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 10:47 AM
Oct 8

all along. Is there truly great doubt about where some of the documents form those empty classified folders went?

PatrickforB

(15,109 posts)
27. I'm sure this is being investigated now by DOJ and responsible (non-traitorous) members of Congress. n/t
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 10:57 AM
Oct 8

Wild blueberry

(7,185 posts)
30. Woodward downgraded from "journalist" to hack
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 11:02 AM
Oct 8

Money from book sales override very relevant information he's been sitting on, again.

Oopsie Daisy

(4,502 posts)
35. Trump is a Russian asset or spy. Putin is his handler.
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 11:14 AM
Oct 8

For his treachery, Trump deserves the worst punishment possible.

chouchou

(1,306 posts)
42. With a nod to "The Coasters" ( Little Eygpt)
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 11:50 AM
Oct 8

Step right up, folks and see Little Donnie.
Do his famous dance of the Russians!
He walks, he talks, he crawls on his belly like a reptile
Just one thin dime, one tenth of a dollar! He'll do all that for you!

Farmer-Rick

(11,407 posts)
43. So good to know he took care of the Russian dictator
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 11:51 AM
Oct 8

Before he took care of Americans during COVID.

Trump even tried to stop the testing of Americans for COVID because it showed how he allowed the disease to spread throughout the US. Republicans and their grandparents were dropping like flies, spreading COVID far and wide, denying COVID even existed while Trump and his pals were selling fake cures (drink bleach?????). All the while, Trump was sending Putin supplies for COVID.

Pure Evil

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LudwigPastorius

(10,805 posts)
54. My takeaway from the article was the new moniker for Trump, courtesy of Joe Biden:
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 09:56 PM
Oct 8
Biden calls him “that fucking asshole,” Woodward writes.


TFA...I like it. It could also stand for "traitorous fucking asshole".

Captain Zero

(7,507 posts)
55. DOES ANYONE think they have not talked about UKRAINE?
Wed Oct 9, 2024, 12:52 AM
Oct 9
Seven conversations (that we know about).
If any of them have been since Trump was nominated and about Ukraine, then Trump is in VIOLATION OF THE LOGAN ACT!
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