Giuliani's son says dad gifted him World Series rings sought by election workers

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: ABC News/AP

October 9, 2024, 2:09 PM


Rudy Giuliani's son is trying to stop two Georgia election workers who won a $148 million defamation judgment against his father from taking the elder Giuliani's New York Yankees World Series rings, saying in new court filings that he is actually the rightful owner because they were gifted to him years ago.

Andrew Giuliani, who was unsuccessful in a 2022 Republican bid for New York governor, said in papers filed Tuesday in federal court in Manhattan that his father gave him four World Series rings as a gift in 2018. He added that he and his father agreed that the elder Giuliani would temporarily keep one of the rings to wear around.

Rudy Giuliani received the rings — one for each of the Yankees' championships in 1996, 1998, 1999 and 2000 — during his terms as mayor of New York City in those years. In filings in a failed bankruptcy attempt this year, Rudy Giuliani listed three World Series rings as personal property as part of an estimated $30,000 jewelry collection that also includes expensive watches.

The Georgia election workers, Ruby Freeman and her daughter, Wandrea “Shaye” Moss, won the $148 million defamation judgment over Rudy Giuliani's false ballot fraud claims against them related to the 2020 presidential election. Freeman and Moss said Giuliani pushed Donald Trump’s lies about the election being stolen, which led to death threats that made them fear for their lives.

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[hlthe2b]

1. Hello, Judge? Grab them back. A judgement is a judgement and that is PART of the penalty owed.

[bullimiami]

2. Why not just say he gifted me everything he owned but was just holding it for me.

[mpcamb]

3. So did Rudi's kid declare those on his taxes? Gifts greater than $14K are supposed to get taxed.

[onenote]

21. Common misunderstanding about the gift tax: the donor, not the donee owes the tax

And the donor only owes the tax if they give gifts exceeding the lifetime exclusion which is almost 13 million dollars.

[BWdem4life]

28. That's the first time I've heard about that

(lifetime exclusion amount before owing tax). Very interesting, thanks.

[MLF1981]

4. I can barely pay my bills...

And this asshole has $30k worth of jewelry to fuck around with. And who has also never done a hard day of physical, backbreaking labor in his life. I'm glad he hitched his wagon to that fat orange moron. No sympathy, whatever happens to him is well deserved.

[JoseBalow]

5. Prove it

[BumRushDaShow]

6. He supposedly submitted this as "proof"

But all it looks like is "posing" with one.

[JoseBalow]

7. That's just proof that he can't trim his nose hair

I have pics of myself next to the pyramids, they were gifted to me

[BumRushDaShow]

11. LOL

I have some too from when I was there like 30 years ago!

[C_U_L8R]

9. Who pays for their insurance?

[moniss]

8. There is no level of shameless that some of this clan

seems to be above. What a crock of crap to say "Daddy gave them to me."

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

10. Pay up, grifter

I'd want the rings as a symbol of beating him

[RainCaster]

12. No way! Rudy gave those to me!

Those should be mine, no way they belong to Andrew.

[paleotn]

13. Sorry, but no.

Fraudulent transfers to shield assets usually don't play very well. Take the damn rings and every single cent that bastard owns. Maybe sonny boy will take care of dear old dad when he's destitute. I wouldn't hold my breath.

[iluvtennis]

14. I fear that Lady Ruby and her daughter Shaye will never see one penny of their $148 million judgement.

Fingers crossed that I'm wrong.

[BaronChocula]

15. I always thought Andrew was his pet monkey

Huh.

[JoseBalow]

18. You're thinking of his other son, Bubbles

[BaronChocula]

25. I'm so confused!

I thought Bubbles was a trump (no offense Bubbles)!

[tonekat]

16. Look, Giuliani has his own Eric!

Probably just as neglected.

[JoseBalow]

19. You're not wrong

(4:28)

[spooky3]

23. hee hee hee! nt

[LetMyPeopleVote]

17. This appear to be bankruptcy fraud

[ShazzieB]

20. If those rings really belong to you, Andrew, explain this!

In filings in a failed bankruptcy attempt this year, Rudy Giuliani listed three World Series rings as personal property as part of an estimated $30,000 jewelry collection that also includes expensive watches.

If the rings belong to you, Andrew, why did your dad list them as his personal property in his bankruptcy filing?

I'll wait (probably forever).

[Tarzanrock]

22. Take the Ghoul's daughter's deposition ...

... and let her ratfuck her shithead, lying brother and the lying, thieving Ghoul. Maybe, she will just plead the 5th like all lying, deceiving, thieving Republican Nazis? One would think that the complete and utter familial "shame" of Daddy Ghoul being "disbarred" in multiple jurisdictions not to mention being criminally indicted and charged with all sorts of felony crimes in multiple jurisdictions would teach that fucked-up family some modicrum of human decency towards the Ghoul's "victims" which, at the most minimum, would be to sell that useless sports bling and pay Freeman and Moss a few ducats from the proceeds thereof on the monies which the evil, criminal Ghoul owes to them.

[AverageOldGuy]

24. Memo to Andrew Giuliani:

You should not have picked a crook as your father.

[Figarosmom]

26. Huh? Dont they only know about the rings

Because Rudy was required to file a list of his assets? So if he gave them to his son why did he say they were his? Looks like the kid is pissed he won't inherit. Maybe daddy had life insurance

[Aussie105]

27. Well, that is a neat trick!

If they are seeking to liquidate your assets just 'gift' everything you value to a close relative!

The house? Nah, gifted that to my mother! Can't take that!
My cars? Nah, gifted those to my neighbour. Can't take them!
etc.

Does that actually work without documented proof?

[Old Crank]

29. I believe gifts to a certain value are tax exempt.

I believe World Series rings are much higher in value. Did he declsre the income? If not jail the mf for tax evasion.

[onenote]

33. The gift tax is commonly misunderstood.

First, only the giver, not the recipient of the gift, is subject to a gift tax.
Second, the tax only applies to the amount of a gift that is above the annual limit, which currently is $18,000 per recipient --I think in 2018 it was $15,000. If you give more than the annual limit to any one recipient -- or $36,000 if you and your spouse jointly make the gift -- you have to report the gift.
Finally, there is no actually tax due unless and until the total amount of the gifts you have given over the annual limit exceed the lifetime limit, which currently is over $13 MILLION.

So, depending on the fair market value of the rings in 2018, and whether the gift was made jointly with his then-spouse, and assuming his claim of having given them isn't total bullshit, which it probably is, he would have been required to report the gift. But nobody ever goes to jail for not filing an annual gift tax form. Indeed, since no tax would be due unless his total gifts exceeded the lifetime exclusion, there is essentially no penalty.

[Old Crank]

35. Sad.

They are still all grifting criminals.

[Old Crank]

30. Based on the picture as evidence....

My daughter owns one of the SF Giants World Series trophies...

[markodochartaigh]

31. And I own the

Golden Gate Bridge and Baker Beach.

[markodochartaigh]

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[neohippie]

34. This will not fly in court

If he declared them as personal property but now claims he gave them away in 2018 he's screwed because the property list was submitted to the court with these rings included. So they will remain his property the judge will claw this back

[mahina]

37. Thank you for this info.

Why I love DU#6363739

[mahina]

36. Then you give it to them. Show us your character.

Or shut it junior.

[Kid Berwyn]

38. Dishonest thing to do.

Like libel. And treason.