'He's Not Well': Trump's Bizarre Off-Topic Ramble Raises Alarm Over 'Mental Capacity'

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: Huff Post

Oct 11, 2024, 04:59 AM EDT | Updated an hour ago


Donald Trump’s rambling speech at the Detroit Economic Club on Thursday at times veered so far off-topic that critics raised new questions about his focus and mental capacity.

Trump trashed Detroit while speaking in Detroit, attempted to define the word “grocery,” and got defensive about his crowd size as he spoke for three hours.

During one 90-second stretch, he jumped from manufacturing to Elon Musk’s SpaceX rockets, to President Joe Biden’s 2020 campaign amid COVID restrictions, to election conspiracy theories, and then to how the United States has been “abused” by other countries.

“It’s so simple,” Trump said of his proposals to use the threat of tariffs to increase manufacturing in the United States. “This isn’t like Elon, with his rocket ships that land within 12 inches on the moon where they want it to land or he gets the engines back,” he said. “That was the first, I really, I said ‘who the hell did that.’ I saw engines about three, four years ago. These things were coming, cylinders, no wings, no nothing, and they’re coming down very slowly, landing on a raft in the middle of the ocean someplace with a circle. Boom!” The word “circle” set Trump in a new direction.

Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-detroit-ramble_n_6708d8aae4b0c34b3eba97a4

[FalloutShelter]

1. Another bulletin from the No Shit Sherlock Desk.

Why don’t they drum him out of the race like they did with President Biden?
Oh… that’s right…they’re in the tank and the Rethugs are determined to drag a dead corpse across the finish line if they have to.

Not sarcasm.

[Lonestarblue]

21. They don't care if Trump croaks after the election.

Then they can make Project 2025 Vance president to fulfill all their dreams of permanent rule in a theocratic dictatorship, along with destruction of the federal government, giving all rights to individual states. Evidently, none of then ever studied history or the original Articles of Confederation that had to be abandoned for a new Constitution because none of the 13 states would agree on anything and the federal government was too weak to lead.

[Wednesdays]

22. If he croaks before the election,

The Repugs will do a "Weekend at Bernie's" with his corpse until Election Day. Then dump it in the ocean.

If the ticket wins, they'll hail Vance as the new God Emperor.

[CaptainTruth]

40. Hey, don't pollute the ocean!

[FalloutShelter]

23. You are not wrong.

[BlueWavePsych]

78. Yup!

[madaboutharry]

2. We can't waste this moment being terrified.

Every democrat and every sane person not a democrat needs to get out and vote for Kamala Harris!

I’ll admit….I am somewhat terrified. 🙁

[CrispyQ]

3. Three hours?!

on edit: For those who missed it last night, here's a thread with a twitter clip of the circles. It is truly something to behold.

https://democraticunderground.com/100219554107

[Girard442]

5. lf I had a copy of the whole thing...

...I'd duct-tape my MAGA relatives to chairs and make them watch the whole thing nonstop.

Preferably Clockwork-Orange style.

[jfz9580m]

8. This actually made me LOL

I am still chuckling..nicely done Girard442 !

Red Dragon & Clockwork Orange eh ?

Edit: That video is something else. He never got back to the tariffs (not in that clip). Three hours of that drivel?

[llmart]

20. Who are the idiots that sat through the entire gish gallop?

They deserve to be ostracized for not having the cajones to get up and leave.

[jfz9580m]

52. Maybe they were duct-taped in place?

The exits were sealed off perhaps? Quite literally a captive audience !

The only sure fire way to ensure the massive crowds that massive ego needs.
Who could sit through 3 hours of that were that not the case? I guess Maga..but still..3 hours??

[BlueKota]

71. Maybe the the exit doors were rigged

to give people a little jolt if they tried to leave. Like on E collars for dogs.

[jfz9580m]

73. ..

[forgotmylogin]

57. Probably the ones who didn't get their checks until the event was over. n/t

[Farmer-Rick]

41. And most of it had nothing to do with economics

And yet people clapped even when he went down nostalgia road inarticulately describing bits and pieces of memories he could not understand.

He's lost in a dementia fog. And the cult members and filthy-rich Nazi owned media keep supporting him without any compunction.

[jfz9580m]

49. Well I did kinda wanna know

If he ever got back to the tariffs, but I didn’t want to wade through 3 hours of that!

[hibbing]

43. I know! I thought it was a typo, I can't even imagine n/t

[morillon]

61. Um...WTH did I just see?

I've known people to talk like that when they're coming out of anesthesia. And 3 hours of it??? Holy smokes.

[BlueKota]

72. My sister said when I was coming off anesthesia,

after a minor surgery, I kept repeating "see my kitties, aren't they pretty.' She called the nurse who assured her it was just the temporary after effects. Then the nurse said, "at least she's happy about what she's seeing too."🤣

[moose65]

66. UGH

Could you imagine listening to that for THREE fucking hours?? OMG

[intrepidity]

4. He has decided to fully embrace "the weave"

--and not just the one in his hair--but he is convinced that this speaking behavior is a sign of genius. No, really, that's what he thinks.

[cab67]

10. I suspect he doesn't realize he's rambling.

[Farmer-Rick]

44. Yup, his psychopathy masks his dementia

Even from himself.

In his mind he's always correct and perfect. So he's not demented just brilliant only to himself and his cult.

[moniss]

6. It's the rambling but also

he loads abbreviated "hot buttons" into his speaking style because he knows that while the sentences make no sense from a typical style of construction or argument they do constantly push the hot buttons in rapid order of his cult members. So even if they come away not being able to intelligently talk about anything he said they do come away highly agitated and if they have one or two specific things they especially have grievance about then the rapid fire effect of agitation has a carryover effect to keep the intensity of anger high.

I'm now seeing in Wisconsin a ton of ads for him talking about how Kamala supports using tax money to send "illegals" to college and job training and she wants to give tax money for transgender prisoners to have sex changes. Of course they show "dog whistle" background pictures while the narrator spits his venom. They do a "Willie Horton" by showing a black man putting on mascara.

[BattleRow]

24. How about an ad with Vance applying

Guyliner..hmm?

[moniss]

32. I'm waiting for a MAGA type

to throw the "college for illegals" and "sex change" stuff at me and say something like "I suppose you support that?" and then I'll say to him "Hell yes and in fact I sent off an extra $500 to the agencies making it all happen!!!" Then I'll tell him that our state prison is letting us donate for the sex change operations and we can use some of the money from the voting machine companies who give us kickbacks in order to allow them to help us steal elections. That should push that blood pressure number somewhere near to a gusher coming out of his mouth, ears and eyes.

[BattleRow]

33. Vance is the face that launched

a thousand quips...

[moniss]

35. I've had good fun

with the couch thing.

[BattleRow]

37. The grift that keeps on giving..

Yes,old divans never die..

[rubbersole]

39. They just go back to the Ottoman Empire.

[keep_left]

51. Yep, "sex changes for illegals". It was on Minneapolis TV news last night.

Complete with emotionally loaded images that were actually from Trump or one of the other Republican campaigns.

[SpankMe]

7. And, of course, you won't see much about this in the MSM,

...because they're afraid of being accused of impacting the election, or "election interference".

These days, reporting negatively on Republicans is framed as election tampering. So, Republicans continue to commit crimes and more openly express racist, misogynist, homophobic policies. Trump's speeches get more unhinged by the day. It's like conservatives are baiting the media into reporting on them by engaging in ever more dangerous and outrageous behavior, and then complaining about unfair - or even illegal - treatment of them by the MSM.

The media is in the tank for Trump. This 'selective' coverage could doom America.

[cab67]

12. The MSM is starting to cover it.

Not with the level of saturation they covered Biden's perceived decline, but it's getting some attention.

Note that I said "perceived." Any decline shown by Biden is mild compared to what we're seeing with the orange jinglesphincter.

(John Oliver's discussion of traffic stops, which included clips of an old public announcement featuring the cast of Cats, provides us with a treasure trove of clever perjoratives such as "jinglesphincter." )

[SpankMe]

18. Yep. Thanks. I got my fingers crossed that the MSM will give this some air time.

Also, I thought it was funny when Trump was trashing Detroit with the "Detroit Economic Club" emblem on the lectern right in front of him. Dude's completely tone deaf.

[ShazzieB]

64. It seems to be a recurring theme.

Trashing places he visits, I mean. He trashed Milwaukee in the run up to the GOP convention being held there.

I don't think he did it during his actual speech there, though. So not exactly the same thing.

[lastlib]

29. (Rec for "jinglesphincter"! Brilliant!)

[Farmer-Rick]

47. The actual journalists

If you want to call them that. The people who actually write the stories and articles are afraid to have to deal with Trump's crazy cult members.

Some of those members are a part of the GOP, assistants, handlers, private securitiy, campaign staff and PR guys. They are the ones who actively threaten, detain and push around the journalists both physically and figuratively.

Remember the incident at section 60 in Arlington National Cemetery? His campaign staff physically pushed around the staff of the cemetery. They do this all the time to journalists and anyone who may annoy them and Trump. Trump expects them to do that.

Would you write bad press on a guy who physically threatens you, sends his supporters to harass you and who your boss supports? It depends on how tough you are. A lot of people get tired of dealing with that.

[JustAnotherGen]

9. Huffpost

Needs to not cover 45 again (what It says) until it says something sane, reasonable, well thought out, and indicative of minimum intelligence.

45 would be chewed up and spit out in debate against my three year old niece Kaia. No joke.

[republianmushroom]

11. And this is new ? Jeez

[maxsolomon]

13. The "alarm over his mental capacity" is just Tweets

by Dem media personalities.

Whoop de doo. Not a single Repuke voter cares if he's addled. They think this shit's hilarious; it's top-shelf Stigginit.

[BumRushDaShow]

16. "Not a single Repuke voter cares if he's addled."

Those voters are part of a "cult" and the few who have broken free, have already come out to say so, and are helping to promote this.

The reporting of 45's mental decline, where something similar had been concocted about Biden and run 24/7 for 3 weeks straight, through a sadistic media assault designed to beat Biden into a pulp (and they are still doing it by making sure to insert some negative reference to Biden in almost every one of their articles), needs to happen with 45 as well.

This is targeted at the Indies/Unaffiliated, who supposedly make up about 1/3rd of the voters.

[maxsolomon]

19. I apologize for my cynicism.

I don't believe that tweets break through to the indies/unafilliated, nor huffpost articles. however, i can see the value of perpetuating and repeating a simple narrative, because "vibes" are all that seem to matter to the uninformed.

that, and apparently, the price of eggs.

[BumRushDaShow]

38. "I don't believe that tweets break through to the indies/unafilliated,"

Most of the M$M have been reporting on that appearance, notably picking up AP's wire service version -

AP

Another take - https://www.thewrap.com/slurring-trump-rambles-aimlessly-about-biden-circles/

And of course, the local paper - https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/10/donald-trump-detroit-economic-club-michigan/75614308007/

So it's not just "Huff Post".

The M$M in general have used social media as their "information sources" for some time now. ALL of the M$M have a presence on it - i.e., their main reporters, and it gives them a quick window to what is happening at a particular moment without needing or hoping for some kind of "press conference" to provide the info.

If that social media app can display video, then it allows the M$M to "see what is going on" and write about it.

The governor of MI and Mayor of Detroit, used it to make their displeasure known -

Link to tweet

Gretchen Whitmer
@gretchenwhitmer
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Detroit is the epitome of “grit,” defined by winners willing to get their hands dirty to build up their city and create their communities—something Donald Trump could never understand.

So keep Detroit out of your mouth. And you better believe Detroiters won’t forget this in… Show more
Chad Livengood
@ChadLivengood
Trump in Detroit:

"The whole country will be like, you want to know the truth? It'll be like Detroit. Our whole country will end up being like Detroit if she's elected president. ... We're not going to let her do that to this country. We're not gonna let it happen."
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3:55 PM · Oct 10, 2024

And as a note, I have no "social media" accounts. Whatever is public out there that I can view is what I can view, and that's it.

There is a whole demographic, who I believe you belong to, who uses it "for information".

[maxsolomon]

45. I use DU. I despise Xitter.

It's largely poison for the body politic.

My least favorite DU OPs are those with a teasing title and only a link to a Tweet.

[BumRushDaShow]

54. This is why I post LBN

and gather from over 2 dozen news sources (yes I have that many tabs just devoted to it plus will go to local or ancillary news sites as needed - e.g., I sub to a bunch of news/commentary magazines). Then I can distill it down (including any press releases, links to sites mentioned in the article or related to it, etc if available and relevant).

Most Municipal/County/State/Federal governmental entities ARE on "social media" because their communities demanded it. So they send out "the latest" that way because it's the fastest way to reach their constituents since the M$M will pick it up right away (if they are monitoring), and can or often will report on it.

"X" and the nightmare of Musk, has caused many of the governmental entities to start working on transitioning to something else but that will take time as it took time for them to develop the current SOPs for publication on their original "Twitter" accounts before it became"X". I noticed that most are moving to "Threads" since it ties into Instagram (that many have) and Facebook (all from same company - Meta - with apps that they also have policies in place for use).

The bottom line is that the M$M is "news gathering" using "social media" nowadays and then reporting on it. It saves them money from actually traveling to a location with a "tape recorder" ( ) and camera (or even an old fashioned notepad) to sort through later.

[progressoid]

63. Yup.

His supporters live in vacuum. Most never hear about it. And those that do, don't give a shit.

[Old Crank]

14. He is an incoherent mess.

The press has been proping him up for a decade.

[hadEnuf]

15. I wonder if they figured Trump was slipping months ago and then decided to say it was Biden who was the one

slipping when he flubbed up a few lines during the first debate. That's how the GOP works. Blame what they are doing or what is happening on the other side. Pure projection.

But it's getting so bad now that even the suckass press can't ignore it anymore.

[patphil]

17. I call this "stream of unconsciousness"

It's a sign of a severe mental disorder in my book, but then I'm not a mental health professional. I'm just an observer.
My concern is that his babbling may be interpreted by his Maga base as some sort of spiritual manifestation; a form of speaking in tongues.
But it looks to me that he's losing touch with reality, and is constructing an alternate reality because he can't face actual reality.
This is only going to get worse, as he slips deeper into this false construct. It's an extremely dangerous fantasy world he's created; one that could destroy anything he sees as a challenge, or threat to his ever-expanding bizarro unreality.
His babbling is his internal flow of thoughts; all jumbled up and projected out as his truth...one that only exists for him, but he wants to impose on us all.
Right now, he is the most dangerous person on the planet.
He cannot be allowed to be president.

[Aussie105]

74. Trump has senile dementia.

But that is a hush-hush, secret topic with the media.

His ego and vaguely remembered ambitions keep him moving and talking.

The Evil isn't with Trump, it is with his enablers, his supporters, and those voters who somehow see some benefit in putting Trump in the White House again.
He really needs to relax and put his feet up in some home for the Mentally Confused, but they won't let him.
'They' in this case, being the Demons in his head, and those who surround him.

[patphil]

76. I've lived near NYC for over 40 years, and know him well.

The evil is definitely within him. His base senses this and both responds to, and embraces it.
They seen him as their "messiah"; someone who can lead them to a better world.
But essentially he is a satanic being who can only lead them down deeper into darkness.

The man has no love in his heart.

[Marthe48]

25. He said blah blah blah bla blah

Old Blevins:

[BattleRow]

26. Just my two cents,but with Orange Glo

recently calling for FCC to pull licenses of major networks,just maybe they are regaining consciousness that they may be recipients of revenge should he be elected.

What goes round...

[llmart]

27. I keep thinking that the GOP's plan is this.

They'll get him elected, find a reason to oust him because of his mental decline once he's ensconced in office so that JD, who is much younger, can pardon Trump, and Vance will carry out becoming a dictator and allowing all of Project 2025 to unfold.

And I'm not one given to conspiracy theories, but why else would so many in Congress still risk their own careers and reputation by supporting this lunacy?

[OLDMDDEM]

28. He's a pathetic liar. Ne may not be well, but he has been a danger to all of us since he won his first election.

[Crowman2009]

30. He's never been well.

I think the substances used to cut his favorite drugs must be catching up with him.

[RobinA]

31. No. One. Cares.

We're talking about people who think Joe Biden can affect the weather. Most of them wouldn't know insane if it bit them in the butt.

[Botany]

34. Elon Musk's space ships are having cylinders float down from space which land on rafts in the middle of ...

Last edited Fri Oct 11, 2024, 11:32 AM - Edit history (1)

…..the ocean which are on flat spots which are circles just like the circles that Joe Biden’s campaign had but they couldn’t find people to sit inside those circles so members of the press went and sat inside those circles and this happened after those space ships flew to the moon and landed 12” apart and those cylinders were really rocket engines.

The man’s brain is 3 day old tuna salad that has sat outside in July in Richmond, VA.

[Mz Pip]

36. New York Times

Where are you? Washington Post? Wall Street Journal?

[BumRushDaShow]

42. Well

The NYT had this headline - In a Rambling Speech, Trump Offers Gripes and Yet Another Tax Cut and got as far as this -

But before he got to his new proposal, Mr. Trump often rambled, reviving his false claims about the 2020 election, mocking President Biden’s 2020 campaign crowds, praising Elon Musk’s rockets.

WaPo did more sane-washing - Trump, pitching aid for Michigan automakers, insults Detroit and only managed this -

But he veered off-script frequently during his remarks, at several points criticizing California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) for his energy policies and calling former senator Patrick J. Toomey (R-Pa.), a critic of tariffs, “not a bright person.” He also swiped at Harris throughout the speech.

“Our whole country will end up being like Detroit if she’s the president,” Trump said. “You’re going to have a mess on your hands.”

Later, Trump said of Toomey: “I thought he was not a bright person. … I said, ‘You’re either the dumbest human being I’ve ever met, or you’re a crook.’”

I don't sub to the WSJ although my mother used to (the actual paper that came in the mail every day) back in the '70s, WAY before Murdoch got hold of it.

[keep_left]

46. Once again, Trump wins the "Fidel Castro Interminable Speech Award"!

Trump trashed Detroit while speaking in Detroit, attempted to define the word “grocery,” and got defensive about his crowd size as he spoke for three hours.

The man spoke for three hours. About petty grievances, his crowd size, "cacklin' Kamala" (don't forget to mispronounce her name!), and on and on. Three hours. How did anyone even stay awake?!

It's a similarity that I couldn't help but notice when Trump just couldn't give up the campaign even after becoming President. Somehow, we had elected a leader that behaved exactly like those we ridiculed during the Cold War.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219047120#post10

[Ms. Toad]

48. Even this article, calling it out. Is engaging in sane-washing

Rather than quote his words, and mostly let the readers figure out what the heck he was talking about, they introduced his rant by explaining what they believe it was about.

And even that explanation fails to fully point out the irrationality. Trump commented that Biden couldn't fill the circles, so they had to have press fill them. Those circles were designed specifically for the press. They weren't some form of rally to which Biden was unable to draw 8 people, so the press had to fill in. They were designed for a strictly limited number of individuals to allow them to hold a safe press conference. So calling them press circles gives Trump credit for a leap he didn't make.

[MonteSS]

50. Trump is Now Grandpa Simpson

We can't have elections like we used to. But we have our ways. One trick is to tell stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I caught the rocket to Elon-ville. I needed a new heel for m'shoe. So I decided to go to Maralago-ville, which is what they called Washington DC in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the rocket cost a NTF or a Tweet, and in those days, NTF's had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a Truth," you'd say. Now where were we... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. I didn't have any white onions, because of the covid. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...

[Blue Owl]

53. Hey New York Times....

Are you telling us you really think this demented, insane idiot is fit to hold office in the White House???

Listen to him. These are the rantings of a madman who has lost all his marbles.

Someone in his state should not be let anywhere near the levers of power, or we all could be in serious trouble......

You and the rest of the M$M need to call for tRump to step down immediately for everyone's safety.

[Ferrets are Cool]

55. About fucking time Huff Post.

Sheesh, it's been apparent for a long time now.

[cstanleytech]

56. His Lil choo choo done run off the tracks folks!!

[barbtries]

58. and corporate media is...where?

he's so clearly unfit. it's a scandal that our media has and continues to fail us so abysmally. FFS

[Number9Dream]

59. We can't wait for the msm... Harris needs to make TV ads about this pronto!

I can't understand this 'let's go easy on Trump' ad strategy. We should be slamming Trump nation-wide on thirty different subjects, but I'm not seeing them here in eastern PA.

[aggiesal]

60. His speeches are not campaign stump speeches, he's acting like this is some comedian tour ...

or some speech tour that major politicians make after leaving office and get paid the big $$$$'s.

So he basically is just saying whatever comes into his puny brain without any filters.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

62. this guy is such a con man this could be an act

so when he finally has a day in court he will be ruled unfit to stand trial thereby wriggling off the hook again! Of course I hope that doesn't happen and I think it's terribly important that he GOES TO JAIL in order to restore confidence in our nation.

[Attilatheblond]

69. Nah, he's never been a good actor and he's not up to his past abysmal past performances.

On top of the stress of prison looming, no money, and trying to campaign, he has to be aware that NOBODY who matters to him loves him. Lonely is his self made hell and it is taking a toll.

[oasis]

65. Mumbling, fumbling, stumbling, bumbling Trump.

And the MAGA cult embraces him as their leader.

[Martin68]

67. "critics raised new questions about his focus and mental capacity. " They've already been raised over and over again.

They were being raised when he was president, but Pence and Trump's Cabinet was never going to invoke the 25th Amendment.

[ailsagirl]

68. Three HOURS??

[riversedge]

70. Dictionary.........

Link to tweet

[Aussie105]

75. Be wary of people who give long speeches . . .

You need to read between the lines to see why.

[OAITW r.2.0]

77. They just want to get Trump over the finish. They will litgate it from there.

I'm contributing to Democracy Docket now. Kamala/Walz will win, but the real fight is going to be in the Courts,