Florida Town Votes to Remove Fluoride from Water, Citing Trump's Appointment of RFK Jr as 'H-Something-Something Directo

[riversedge]

Source: mediaite



Florida Town Votes to Remove Fluoride from Water, Citing Trump’s Appointment of RFK Jr as ‘H-Something-Something Director’

Sarah Rumpf Nov 15th, 2024, 5:13 pm

The city commission in Winter Haven, Florida voted this week to stop adding fluoride to the drinking water, citing President-elect Donald Trump’s nomination of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to be the Secretary of “H-something-something” as one of the reasons.

On Thursday, the former-and-future president announced his intention to nominate Kennedy as Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, a controversial decision due to Kennedy’s long history of promoting conspiracy theories and misinformation about vaccines and other health topics, including water fluoridation.

According to a report by local NBC affiliate WFLA, the Winter Haven commissioners “voted 3-2 to remove the fluoride by January 1, or on a date ‘as soon as reasonably practical thereafter,'” at a commission meeting that included “a lengthy public comment period where residents shared health concerns.”

“For many commission members and audience members, the issue at hand was government overreach,” WFLA reported.

Commissioner Brad Dantzler, who was one of the three votes to remove the fluoride, “cited concerns posed by 2024 Presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.” — something that was mentioned by “[m]ultiple residents” during the public comment period. At the time of the commission meeting, Trump had not yet publicly announced his nomination of Kennedy.....................



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[multigraincracker]

1. Going to go after tooth paste too?

At least have a vote on that too.

[Walleye]

3. How about flossing people get tired of flossing

The same people will loudly complain when Medicare doesn’t take care of their dental problems

[Walleye]

2. I always think these anti-fluoride people have some financial interest in dentistry

Taking kickbacks from a local dentist?

[womanofthehills]

11. 'Excess fluoride linked to cognitive impairment in children'

Tulane Univ:

"Long-term consumption of water with fluoride levels far above established drinking water standards may be linked to cognitive impairments in children, according to a new pilot study from Tulane University."

https://news.tulane.edu/pr/excess-fluoride-linked-cognitive-impairment-children

[Walleye]

12. We had crackpots against it when I was growing up. I was not thankful for a mouthful of cavities.

The character in Dr. Strangelove with the precious bodily fluids, was based on real happenings

[SCantiGOP]

14. That is true

“at levels far above….. established standards.”
There is enough nicotine in one cigarette that, if processed out and injected, would kill
someone immediately. Saying that fluoride levels thousands of time higher than why you can get from drinking water are dangerous is irrelevant to the conversation.”

[DBoon]

15. Then review the study and look for corroboration.

If confirmed, adjust the amount of fluoride appropriately.

Don't just eliminate it completely because Mr. Brainworm says to.

There are many of absolutely essential trace minerals that are toxic in high doses. Iodides can be toxic, but adding them to common table salt has eliminated goiter completely.

[eppur_se_muova]

19. "FAR ABOVE" is the important part of that statement. It has LONG been known that a little bit of fluoride is good, ...

... but a lot is not better -- as is true of so many things. Vitamins are essential for good health, but some, such as vitamin A, can be toxic if taken in excess. Drinking too much water too quickly can kill you.

INFORMED and INTELLIGENT limits are the answer. Eliminating fluoride completely leads to weaker teeth. Too much fluoride leads to mottled teeth. Living downwind from an aluminum smelter (which releases volatile fluorides into the air) has been known to be extremely unhealthy for cattle, who browse on grass contaminated with fluoride. So the amount of fluoride needs to be carefully monitored and controlled. Fortunately, naturally fluoride in water is rare ( but led to the discovery of its beneficial effects) so overdosing is rare. 0.7 ppm in water is adequate to protect dental health in growing children. Toxic effects begin at much higher doses, which are not difficult at all to avoid.

To people like RFKJ, these facts don't matter. They seem to think that any fluoride content is bad, regardless of the evidence accumulated in dozens, if not hundreds, of studies. It's truly knee-jerk rejection as soon as they hear the word 'fluoride'. This same pattern underlies much of right-wing "thinking", which is why all you have to do is slap a label they've been brainwashed to find objectionable onto something/someone, and they immediately hate it, without knowing anything more about it.

Either you understand the words INFORMED and INTELLIGENT, or you don't. MAGAts make it clear they have no remotely accurate conception of either.

[riversedge]

29. Correct facts and science do not matter to those who bow to Trump.....

And make no mistake--these so-called "leaders" are kissing Trumps ring.
Today--it is flouride--Tomorrow what will it be??




.....To people like RFKJ, these facts don't matter. They seem to think that any fluoride content is bad, regardless of the evidence accumulated in dozens, if not hundreds, of studies.............

[VeryProgressive]

21. Bullshit Alert

I suggest you read the report again. It doesn't say what you think it does. The dumbing of America continues.

[NickB79]

31. This poster has a history of this stuff

During the COVID pandemic, she was pushing this insane anti-vaxxer claim that just being AROUND someone with a COVID shot was altering women's menstrual cycles. It was so jaw-dropping I never forgot it.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/covid-vaccines-do-not-shed-from-one-person-to-another-and-then-cause-reproduct-idUSL1N2MG256/

[radical noodle]

26. The important part of that quote

fluoride levels far above established drinking water standards

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

13. While reading this article, I had the same thought.

Kennedy is not even in this position yet and the nuttiness has already begun.

[Ndp5]

4. This is for real

Went and looked it up because I didn’t believe Mediaite could be getting it right.

“I can get false teeth if needed. I only have one brain,” (town resident Hannah) Bush said.

Oh, honey.

I propose an update to Thomas Frank’s book. We need a “What’s the Matter with Florida?”

[cactusfractal]

5. Everything.

I hope this place burns to the waterline.

[sakabatou]

6. If the sea level rises, it'll be underwater.

[radical noodle]

27. Remember there are Democrats

here in Florida, please.

[riversedge]

30. The --town resident Hannah--has a wilted brain and has be Infected with Trumpism.

[The Madcap]

7. Maybe

They are just idiots.

[OnlinePoker]

8. It would be a good case study for the pro/anti-fluoride sides

Monitor dental services for 10 years or so to see if there is any increase in the number of cavities overall. I, personally, believe there is enough fluoride in the toothpaste we use without the need for adding it to the water. I grew up in a town that used fluoride and had plenty of cavities. I've lived in an unfluoridated city for the last 22 years and have had none. The only difference between the two was I became more diligent in brushing and flossing as I got older.

[muriel_volestrangler]

9. "things that were very complicated, and we don't completely understand" - then listen to those who do, you dolt

Yates later denied that a reported 9,000 children face significant barriers to accessing fluoride because of existing public health services. Commissioner Brad Dantzler suggested giving some of the estimated $48,000 saved by adopting the resolution to charities that can provide dental health products.
...
Dantzler said, in response to correspondence with dental professionals, that city commissioners acknowledge that fluoride is beneficial for dental health, but they have concerns about what may happen when it “gets in the gut.”
...
As pointed out by Dantzler and some public commenters, the discussion echoed those during meetings in the COVID-19 pandemic.

“This is reminiscent of what happened with COVID,” Dantzler said. “All four of us, with exception of Commissioner Dollison, were here during COVID and asked to make medical decisions on things that were very complicated, and we don’t completely understand.”

https://www.wfla.com/news/polk-county/winter-haven-commissioners-vote-to-remove-fluoride-from-water-citing-rfk-jr/

So rather than listening to the medical professionals, this bag of pus listens to the lawyer who was a heroin addict, is now abusing steroids, and drove his car with a chainsawed whale head leaking body fluids into the faces of his children. What an abject toady.

[rainin]

10. JFK is a terrible messenger, but fluoride should not be in drinking water

My first born was born with fluorosis which mottled her teeth and possibly affected her bones and joints. I learned about the dangers of fluoridated water as a result. I suspect none of the people commenting actually know anything about the risks of drinking fluoridated water. People just get on a bandwagon that hurts those of us who have actually researched it and understand the problem.

There are two wealthy cities near me (over a million average home price) who have taken fluoride out of their water supply while our upper middle class city continues to add it. I blame people who jump on popular positions without investing any real effort.

Research is hard sometimes. It's more than doing a google search and believing what others who are pushing the same low-effort positions say. Yeah, I get it. It's comforting to think you know something and everyone else is just a conspiracy theorist.

My daughter has veneers...for life.

Yes, we still use fluoride at the dentist. Don't swallow it.
No, we don't brush with fluoridated toothpaste. No need.

[VeryProgressive]

22. Yes, it should

Some people (a very very small number) may have an adverse impact of fluoride, but it's overall benefits outweigh the exceptions.

[delisen]

28. Large numbers had fluorosis in US

Topical fluoride treatments are available añd many countries provide such dental care to all children.
The US is not willing to provide poor children with good preventive dental care

Mass fluoridation through ingesting fluoride is different than vaccination to prevent a communicable disease.

[NickB79]

32. And I grew up on a well and had a horrible number of cavities

Because we had no fluoride in our water.

I agree, research is hard sometimes. But when 9 out of 10 scientific research articles say "keep fluoride in the water because the benefits outweigh the problems", and you don't believe it, you have failed at researching.

[rainin]

33. I have not failed at my research. You have.

I'd love to hear your theory for why two Uber wealthy municipalities near Dallas have taken fluoride out of the water supply. Just pose your theory, since you want to accuse others of failing to research.

You have a position and you're really really convinced it's the truth. That's all you're bringing to this conversation

[Rebl2]

16. Guess

It will be more $$$ for dentist’s. Wonder if they will make dentist stop fluoride treatments.

[poozwah]

17. wisdom teeth

the decay in florida is ongoing. let the gum fights begin!

[coffeenap]

18. Well, time for us to move there so my

decent human being husband dentist can get us rich quick--woohoo--new retirement plan--lfg!! /jk

[Seinan Sensei]

20. "Have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water?"

“Well, I can’t say that I have.”

“Vodka, that’s what they drink . . . on no account will a Commie ever drink water, and not without good reason . . . Have you never wondered why I drink only distilled water, or rainwater, and only pure-grain alcohol? Have you ever heard of a thing called fluoridation of water? Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?”

General Jack D. Ripper to British captain Lionel Mandrake, about dangers of fluoride in water
Dr Strangelove (1964)

[Karasu]

23. This...should be an Onion article.

...It causes me physical pain to know that it isn't.

[Marthe48]

24. Which of those good ol boys in Deliverance is the best looking?

And how soon will denizens of Winter Haven look just like them?

[nuxvomica]

25. This sounds like something out of "Idiocracy"

"H-something-something?" Maybe they'll replace the fluoride with Gatorade. It's got electrolytes!