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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

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Fri Jan 10, 2025, 03:20 PM Jan 10

US finds no 'Havana syndrome' link to foreign powers, but 2 spy agencies say it's possible

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. intelligence has found no evidence linking a foreign power to the mysterious “Havana syndrome” injuries reported by some U.S. diplomats and other government personnel, though two agencies now say it’s possible a foreign adversary may have developed or even deployed a weapon responsible for the injuries.

The conclusion, which echoes early investigations, follows a review conducted by seven intelligence agencies or departments that examined cases of brain injuries and other symptoms reported by American diplomats and other military and government staffers, who have raised questions about the involvement of a foreign adversary.

In the new assessment released by U.S. intelligence on Friday, five of the seven agencies concluded that it is very unlikely that a foreign adversary was behind the injuries.

Two of the agencies, however, reached a different conclusion, determining that there is a possibility that a foreign power may have developed or even used a weapon capable of causing the reported injuries. Such a device would presumably rely on acoustic energy, microwaves or anther kind of directed energy.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/havana-syndrome-intelligence-russia-cuba-9432754ff9889e24a356a77321631c59

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US finds no 'Havana syndrome' link to foreign powers, but 2 spy agencies say it's possible (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 10 OP
Many analysts and investigators suspect enemy action is behind Havana Syndrome (as do I). C0RI0LANUS Jan 10 #1
Interesting... Blue_Tires Jan 10 #2
It never passed the smell test because they never found any evidence of the supposed rays Blues Heron Jan 10 #3
Agree reACTIONary Jan 11 #5
Though no US scientist has been able to replicate it ... TomWilm Jan 10 #4
Theories on Havana Syndrome. C0RI0LANUS Jan 11 #6

Blues Heron

(6,270 posts)
3. It never passed the smell test because they never found any evidence of the supposed rays
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 05:06 PM
Jan 10

A single photo of a van with a dish on top would have helped sell the story. For a while it was a Havanna Syndrome story every two weeks like clockwork. Not surprised they are winding down the investigation

TomWilm

(1,868 posts)
4. Though no US scientist has been able to replicate it ...
Fri Jan 10, 2025, 05:57 PM
Jan 10

... two spy agencies would like it to be possible anyway.

C0RI0LANUS

(2,478 posts)
6. Theories on Havana Syndrome.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 01:55 AM
Jan 11

One of the most capable men in Joe Biden's cabinet is D/CIA William Burns. During a mission to Moscow in 2021,

Burns delivered a secret warning to Russian intelligence services that they will face “consequences” if they are responsible for the mysterious health incidents known as “Havana Syndrome.”


Director Burns told the Russian spies that harming US personnel and their families would break the unwritten rules of acceptable behavior for professional intelligence services. If it was determined that the Russians were responsible, there would be repercussions.


If no attacks occurred after this warning, perhaps the Russians were responsible and got the message. As an old Cold Warrior, I remain suspicious and vigilant about Putin. The Russians spend time and resources on DEW.

The other non-hostile explanations for Havana Syndrome (all sources linked at bottom):

1) Powerfully chirping crickets, like this one:



Since US personnel were away so long from Havana, perhaps the racket that these voluble crickets make were long forgotten.

2) Overexposure to pesticides. Cuba uses Highly Hazardous Pesticides (HHP). The facilities may have been over-fumigated before US personnel arrived, which eventually sickened them.

3) A researcher at realclearscience.com states that the symptoms of "Havana syndrome" are basically the "power of suggestion" and "self-validation."

Without any smoking sun, we have to armchair analyze. But this man would have solved the Havana Syndrome mystery for us once and for all:





Sources:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/cia-director-warns-russians-consequences-source-havana-syndrome-rcna6684

https://www.realclearscience.com/articles/2024/07/01/havana_syndrome_finally_putting_the_myth_to_rest_1040905.html

https://ipen.org/sites/default/files/documents/hhps_cuba_executive_summary_cuba_april_2021.pdf
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