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BumRushDaShow

(149,166 posts)
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 04:19 AM Jan 24

Trump threatens to withhold federal aid for LA wildfires over California water rules

Source: USA Today

Published 3:39 p.m. ET Jan. 23, 2025 | Updated 3:40 p.m. ET Jan. 23, 2025


WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump threatened to withhold wildfire relief from California if it doesn't reroute water to the southern part of the state. He also hinted at a possible overhaul of the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

Referring to an executive order he signed earlier in the week ordering California to redirect water from the northern part of the state, Trump said Wednesday evening in an interview with Sean Hannity that he thought the federal government should withhold federal funds.

"I don't think we should give California anything until they let water flow down into there," he said. "It's a political thing. I don't know what it is."

Trump also threatened to shut off wildfire relief to California last year during the 2024 presidential campaign if the state's Democratic governor, Gavin Newsom, refused to change his policies protecting an endangered species of a small fish – called smelt.

Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/01/23/trump-withhold-federal-aid-la-california-wildfires/77907699007/

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Trump threatens to withhold federal aid for LA wildfires over California water rules (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jan 24 OP
cool. we'll withhold federal tax dollars tishaLA Jan 24 #1
If only WE Democrats had the power to do that. yes!! riversedge Jan 24 #2
Place the funds in homegirl Jan 24 #15
How do we do that? California doesn't collect our federal taxes -- the IRS does. LauraInLA Jan 24 #25
Worse yet. homegirl Jan 24 #27
Damn well should. That would be more than appropriate to combat the insanity of this unprecedented fascist blackmail. Karasu Jan 24 #3
And use it to fund the repairs from the fire...yes?....Can you do that?...nt mitch96 Jan 24 #6
I wish our California government would do just that. As far as our California Magoo48 Jan 24 #12
I don't know what money California can withhold, do you? The IRS collects our federal tax revenues. LauraInLA Jan 24 #26
You're correct, of course, except some customs duties etc. Magoo48 Jan 24 #33
This ALMOST makes me wish he'd make good on his threat to abolish the fed income tax. LauraInLA Jan 24 #34
Seize an asset Nasruddin Jan 24 #37
Meh. Meet that demand and Trump will make another one. no_hypocrisy Jan 24 #4
And block it in court just like the technique he uses..Delay delay delay..nt mitch96 Jan 24 #7
The gop wants more political power in California. The only way they can do this is with lies. C Moon Jan 24 #5
Great points. It's all about the grift. bronxiteforever Jan 24 #14
Called that one. It was easy though. twodogsbarking Jan 24 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Initech Jan 24 #21
California can't control its own water? SpankMe Jan 24 #9
It's only "states rights" when Dump says so. sakabatou Jan 24 #11
Is that the water that flows downhill, you know, north to south from Canada? Magoo48 Jan 24 #13
He is seriously convinced there's some magic switch that will make it all go away. Initech Jan 24 #23
"I don't know what it is." Lulu KC Jan 24 #10
Any thoughts os secession? nt rambler_american Jan 24 #16
At this point, I'd be in favor of it. However, I'd prefer to see CA become a part of Canada (a long shot). Karasu Jan 24 #30
Trump is a moron pfitz59 Jan 24 #17
When he says opening the spigot he means to end this project and others for conservation. travelingthrulife Jan 24 #19
This Californian still can't believe that ridiculous "make forests safer act" still passed. Initech Jan 24 #24
Are we supposed to use the Democrat's weather machine to re-direct the rivers and mountains now. travelingthrulife Jan 24 #18
45 is truly a moron. nt LittleGirl Jan 24 #20
The felon bdamomma Jan 24 #22
trump says he is conditioning aid to California following LA wildfires LetMyPeopleVote Jan 24 #28
and as usual azureblue Jan 24 #32
Newom you knew this was coming Nasruddin Jan 24 #38
Charge him with enabling arson. GreenWave Jan 24 #29
Won't work. The SCOTUS ruled that he can do anything he wants and have immunity. n/t totodeinhere Jan 24 #36
Newsom should just say-- azureblue Jan 24 #31
There have been a lot of natural disasters in red states like Florida. And the Biden Administration was totodeinhere Jan 24 #35

tishaLA

(14,574 posts)
1. cool. we'll withhold federal tax dollars
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 04:33 AM
Jan 24

And stop paying for the economic failures of red states.

homegirl

(1,673 posts)
15. Place the funds in
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 01:21 PM
Jan 24

an escrow account. Then do as Donald does, DELAY, DELAY, DELAY...! DRAG IT THROUGH THE COURTS FOR A DECADE!!!!

homegirl

(1,673 posts)
27. Worse yet.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 04:17 PM
Jan 24

Federal government is holding our money, are they paying interest while they hold It?

"The Interest Never Sleeps"

Karasu

(750 posts)
3. Damn well should. That would be more than appropriate to combat the insanity of this unprecedented fascist blackmail.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 05:15 AM
Jan 24

Go for it, Newsom.

Magoo48

(6,089 posts)
12. I wish our California government would do just that. As far as our California
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 01:16 PM
Jan 24

Republic is concerned, the deal with the feds is shit. We must respond as radically as he acts. I wish we would totally disregard every fucking horseshit thing coming out of DC which doesn’t serve our state. Fuck him and his bus load of Nazi bozos.

LauraInLA

(1,770 posts)
26. I don't know what money California can withhold, do you? The IRS collects our federal tax revenues.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 04:00 PM
Jan 24

Magoo48

(6,089 posts)
33. You're correct, of course, except some customs duties etc.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 06:04 PM
Jan 24

i was just pissed. Whenever he threatens to withhold natural disaster relief it pisses me off.
I’d feel much more secure if we all sent our fed income tax to Sacramento.

C Moon

(12,744 posts)
5. The gop wants more political power in California. The only way they can do this is with lies.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 05:41 AM
Jan 24

My guess is they are going to try to put ex baseball star Steve Garvey in the running for governor.
They also want to turn California's energy into the Texas style of energy.
Finally, they will put a shit load of oil drills off our coasts, and sell the sand land to rich homeowners.

Response to twodogsbarking (Reply #8)

Karasu

(750 posts)
30. At this point, I'd be in favor of it. However, I'd prefer to see CA become a part of Canada (a long shot).
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 05:32 PM
Jan 24

Last edited Fri Jan 24, 2025, 06:11 PM - Edit history (1)

Cascadia isn't sounding like a half-bad idea anymore, either. Provided it encompasses the whole state and not just NorCal.

If this is the way these fascists are already starting out of the gate with CA, something drastic needs to be done. CA can't afford to play by their rules anymore--and it has no reason to.

travelingthrulife

(1,820 posts)
19. When he says opening the spigot he means to end this project and others for conservation.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 02:26 PM
Jan 24

He is saying this nonsense because farmers have been forced to be more responsible than they have been. So...farmer's with water rights whining.

Initech

(104,244 posts)
24. This Californian still can't believe that ridiculous "make forests safer act" still passed.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 02:40 PM
Jan 24

travelingthrulife

(1,820 posts)
18. Are we supposed to use the Democrat's weather machine to re-direct the rivers and mountains now.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 02:24 PM
Jan 24

What is he babbling about?

LetMyPeopleVote

(160,173 posts)
28. trump says he is conditioning aid to California following LA wildfires
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 04:22 PM
Jan 24

tft is now going to condition aid on voter id
https://bsky.app/profile/ecmclaughlin.bsky.social/post/3lgj3cupnlk2d



https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-president-news-01-24-25

President Donald Trump told reporters Friday that he will be conditioning aid to California following the devastating wildfires in the Los Angeles area, demanding the “water to be released.” He also said he wants voter ID in the state.

“I want two things. I want voter ID for the people of California, and they all want it right now. You have no, you don’t have voter ID. People want to have voter identification. You want to have proof of citizenship. Ideally, you have one day voting. But I just want voter ID as a start,” Trump told reporters upon landing in North Carolina.

“And I want the water to be released, and they’re going to get a lot of help from the US,” he added.

It is an unusual political demand for the president to make, and one that politicizes disaster relief in a state that is reeling from the wildfires.

Nasruddin

(982 posts)
38. Newom you knew this was coming
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 08:39 PM
Jan 24

I hope there's a real plan!
Not that our voting system couldn't stand some improvements, but this isn't it.

azureblue

(2,366 posts)
31. Newsom should just say--
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 05:43 PM
Jan 24

"Then you don't get any money from CA until you deposit full FEMA funds in the state's accounts. CA would be far better off using our money for relief and repair. CA is supporting way to many Red states that can't get their act together.""
Trump isn't the only person that can play chicken.

totodeinhere

(13,582 posts)
35. There have been a lot of natural disasters in red states like Florida. And the Biden Administration was
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 07:25 PM
Jan 24

always right there providing comprehensive disaster aid regardless of the politics of the region. That is the way it should be.

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