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highplainsdem

(53,937 posts)
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 04:45 PM Feb 3

Elon Musk Suggests Getting Rid Of All Regulations In Midnight Call

Source: HuffPost

-snip-

The public call was hosted on his website X, formerly Twitter, and included two senators and the Trump ally Vivek Ramaswamy.

“Regulations, basically, should be default gone,” Musk said. “Not default there, default gone. And if it turns out that we missed the mark on a regulation, we can always add it back in.”

“These regulations are added willy-nilly all the time. So we’ve just got to do a wholesale, spring cleaning of regulation and get the government off the backs of everyday Americans so people can get things done,” Musk said, adding later: “If the government has millions of regulations holding everyone back, well, it’s not freedom. We’ve got to restore freedom.”

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Musk replied, “If it’s not possible now, it’ll never be possible. This is our shot. This is the best hand of cards we’re ever going to have. And if we don’t take advantage of this best hand of cards, it’s never going to happen, so we’re going to do it.”

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Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elon-musk-regulations-default-gone_n_67a12742e4b09a02376043c7

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Elon Musk Suggests Getting Rid Of All Regulations In Midnight Call (Original Post) highplainsdem Feb 3 OP
Yeah, it's your shot until you're kicked out of our country by We, the People. sinkingfeeling Feb 3 #1
"Freedom" for business to rob, pillage, contaminate, kill Docreed2003 Feb 3 #2
Exactly. highplainsdem Feb 3 #4
agreed DENVERPOPS Feb 3 #50
Pain train coming for all of us. bronxiteforever Feb 3 #3
I generally like living in a regulated nation. Harker Feb 3 #5
I concur with those thoughts. yellow dahlia Feb 3 #20
I believe a lot of republican voters think the anti-regulatory rhetoric that has been barraging them sounds great... Harker Feb 3 #22
Many of them want anarchy durablend Feb 3 #39
Yes, there are plenty of them, too. Harker Feb 3 #43
Would Be Nice, Right? GB_RN Feb 3 #31
"Un putain d'idiot orange, c'est moi." Harker Feb 3 #37
Let me know how that works for Boeing jets. James48 Feb 3 #6
It's the libertarian theory. Turbineguy Feb 3 #9
People dying is the price of freedom IronLionZion Feb 3 #18
It's a sacrifice he's willing to make durablend Feb 3 #38
The deaths would merely be considered collateral damage by the Elongelicals. StarryNite Feb 3 #45
Pro-life IronLionZion Feb 3 #48
Machine inspections, fall protection, HazMat suits, electrical lockout etc.- yeah, they need to go! nature-lover Feb 3 #7
Fuck the food inspectors! Ponietz Feb 3 #21
In our old system BlueKota Feb 3 #8
He wants to pollute, have slave labor, commit fraud Klarkashton Feb 3 #10
Takes After His Parents... GB_RN Feb 3 #32
He must be doing some good drugs. Nt BootinUp Feb 3 #11
He started believing all that media hero worship bullshit Hitorque Feb 3 #40
He needs to do lots more Hekate Feb 4 #68
The concept of the public good, and protections for all Americans is now gone. Irish_Dem Feb 3 #12
the mad monk is trying his ham handed best to hamner the libertarian utopia into place. Javaman Feb 3 #13
Get ready for rats in your sausages, sewage in your drinking water, lead and mercury in the air you breathe, Aristus Feb 3 #14
Rats In Sausages... GB_RN Feb 3 #34
What's interesting is that Sinclair wanted to focus on the horrendous conditions workers in Aristus Feb 3 #44
Eloon wants to let the US burn sakabatou Feb 3 #15
Killing His Customers... GB_RN Feb 3 #36
Well, that's Xi's want too. Justice matters. Feb 4 #71
Regulations are about stopping raving self-centered A-Holes from ripping heritage asunder, defecation brain. mpcamb Feb 3 #16
It is not possble EVER. elleng Feb 3 #17
Thank you, elleng! ReRe Feb 4 #70
Thanks, ReRe, and you're welcome! elleng Feb 4 #77
Maybe some tech savvy people should show up at Musk businesses and seize them, the computers, bank accounts, etc. chowder66 Feb 3 #19
The only thing that should be "default gone" is Elon Musk MLWR Feb 3 #23
willy nilly huh? You are a stupid SOB. Evolve Dammit Feb 3 #24
Begone Elon! Blues Heron Feb 3 #25
The FREEDOM TO POLLUTE is worth TRILLIONS to corporations bucolic_frolic Feb 3 #26
He is insane. Baitball Blogger Feb 3 #27
Let's remove the regulations that stop anyone from spoofing X's ISP numbers. eppur_se_muova Feb 3 #28
no regulation? mwooldri Feb 3 #29
Hell, let's get rid of laws that prohibit me from Ilsa Feb 3 #30
Does Musk have a cell phone? Does he know the reason he has a unique phone number is because Midnight Writer Feb 3 #33
Well, this is stupid and dangerous! slightlv Feb 3 #35
Capitalism minus regulation Rocknation Feb 3 #41
No regulations means anyone can just walk up and kill Elmer, right? Hitorque Feb 3 #42
WHAT'S IN IT FOR ELON??? YoshidaYui Feb 3 #46
Yui, you know what's in it for him jmowreader Feb 3 #64
so he is a fat cat Robber baron YoshidaYui Feb 4 #75
With emphasis on "robber" jmowreader Feb 4 #81
That is always Musk's technique. Pull everything out till it breaks. Kablooie Feb 3 #47
"It's a person's fault pfitz59 Feb 3 #49
To deflect from Trump's failure with Trudeau, but Musk must geaux. GreenWave Feb 3 #51
I want some of his supply. NotHardly Feb 3 #52
it's a poker game stillcool Feb 3 #53
All the freezing and firing made it pretty clear this was the plan, but now he's just putting it all out there. Karasu Feb 3 #54
Does that include the regulation Aussie105 Feb 3 #55
Unelected, unaccountable, Prince Regent Musk can go disappear up his own asshole. LudwigPastorius Feb 3 #56
That disgusting feeling of being exposed to his drug fueled wet dream. woven Feb 3 #57
I predict something awful is going to happen, really awful. Maybe not on US soil but somewhere somehow there will be a tulipsandroses Feb 3 #58
Lack of regulations is NOT "freedom" for the victims of corporate misbehavior. SunSeeker Feb 3 #59
The Senators on the call Karch Feb 3 #60
This is where I would want to leave the US and never come back. Wingus Dingus Feb 3 #61
Nothing Spells Danger Like Musk's Own Words DallasNE Feb 3 #62
Okay... jmowreader Feb 3 #63
Careful What You Pray For Sober Retiree Feb 4 #65
The common person doesn't have a lot of regulations holding them back AKwannabe Feb 4 #66
What about regulations against killing healthcare CEOs? DetlefK Feb 4 #67
That creepy doped neo-nazi belongs in prison. nt Justice matters. Feb 4 #69
what's the point Skittles Feb 4 #72
Musk should be tied to one of his rockets. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 4 #73
I suggest getting rid of Elon Musk. Nt stage left Feb 4 #74
Yes, let's just get rid of all the FAA regulations VMA131Marine Feb 4 #76
"These regulations are added willy-nilly all the time" Ray Bruns Feb 4 #78
We don't need no education neohippie Feb 4 #79
That last snip is key to what is really happening. This is a coup full stop n/t Cheezoholic Feb 4 #80
Go back to South Africa milestogo Feb 4 #82
Yeah, who needs red lights or stop signs? RussBLib Feb 4 #83
Does that mean we can gang up Linda ladeewolf Feb 4 #84
I work in food production NickB79 Feb 4 #85

Docreed2003

(18,052 posts)
2. "Freedom" for business to rob, pillage, contaminate, kill
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 04:50 PM
Feb 3

Without pesky interference from government regulations meant to protect the freedoms, lives, and livelihoods of average people.

This dude is drunk off his own wealth and farts and he's been given unfettered access to the reigns of government.

DENVERPOPS

(10,784 posts)
50. agreed
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 09:18 PM
Feb 3

............."and get the government off the backs of"............CORPORATIONS, POLITICIANS, AND OLIGARCHS......and give them free reign to completely and legally fuck over the common man..

Harker

(15,547 posts)
5. I generally like living in a regulated nation.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 04:55 PM
Feb 3

I'd like it much better if the laws and regulations meant to prevent the utter destruction of the government by Trumpsky, his remoras, and the republicans were enforced.

Harker

(15,547 posts)
22. I believe a lot of republican voters think the anti-regulatory rhetoric that has been barraging them sounds great...
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 05:46 PM
Feb 3

only because they take the protections for granted, and they never thought it through.

I expect a lot of squealing will be heard as it dawns on them that Trumpsky wasn't kidding when he told them, "I don't care about you - I just want your vote."

GB_RN

(3,300 posts)
31. Would Be Nice, Right?
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 07:39 PM
Feb 3

Unfortunately, (In)Justices Clarence “Uncle Slappy” Thomas, Scammy Alito, Goresuck, The Handmaiden, Brett “Beerbong Boy” Kavanaugh and John fuckin’ Roberts decided to turn Cantaloupe Caligula the Corpulent into Louis “L’Etat, c’est moi” the XIV.

Harker

(15,547 posts)
37. "Un putain d'idiot orange, c'est moi."
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 07:57 PM
Feb 3

I'm writing a letter to my Senator suggesting ripping up the train tracks would be a better approach than lying down upon them.

Give me a Labiche every time.

James48

(4,708 posts)
6. Let me know how that works for Boeing jets.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 04:55 PM
Feb 3

And airline flights.

Yeh, I’d like to see how zero regs works out that way in aviation.

Turbineguy

(38,753 posts)
9. It's the libertarian theory.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 04:59 PM
Feb 3

If you kill all your customers they will buy from you again and again.

IronLionZion

(47,530 posts)
18. People dying is the price of freedom
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 05:23 PM
Feb 3

since regulations are clearly ruining the lives of people who like to violate regulations for profit.

BlueKota

(3,843 posts)
8. In our old system
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 04:58 PM
Feb 3

wouldn't Congress have to approve deregulation? Of course President Muskrat has been allowed to do whatever he wants so far. So I guess the old rules don't apply anymore.

GB_RN

(3,300 posts)
32. Takes After His Parents...
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 07:42 PM
Feb 3

After all, they got rich with gem mines in South Africa during Apartheid. No way they paid decent (non-slave) wages or kept any toxic mine tailings where they wouldn’t pollute everything around them.

 

Hitorque

(254 posts)
40. He started believing all that media hero worship bullshit
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 08:17 PM
Feb 3

And he probably really does believe he's the smartest man on the planet...

Irish_Dem

(63,830 posts)
12. The concept of the public good, and protections for all Americans is now gone.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 05:01 PM
Feb 3

It is about what the billionaires and politicians want.

Javaman

(63,340 posts)
13. the mad monk is trying his ham handed best to hamner the libertarian utopia into place.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 05:07 PM
Feb 3

this is the end goal of the asshole billionaires

Aristus

(69,084 posts)
14. Get ready for rats in your sausages, sewage in your drinking water, lead and mercury in the air you breathe,
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 05:08 PM
Feb 3

and children in the factories, losing fingers and toes.

All of those things are acceptable to billionaires who want tax cuts.

GB_RN

(3,300 posts)
34. Rats In Sausages...
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 07:48 PM
Feb 3

Yeah. Apparently no one requires reading Upton Sinclair’s “The Jungle” anymore. Should be a mandatory reading assignment in order to pass American History in high school as it was for me. Made me a huge fan of the FDA and the USDA.

But yeah, them meat ‘spectors is keepin’ Tyson and Smithfield from makin’ all thuh profits they’s entitled tuh. All them profits they’s gonna share with their wurkers. (Gotta say it with a bad, bad southern accent)

Aristus

(69,084 posts)
44. What's interesting is that Sinclair wanted to focus on the horrendous conditions workers in
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 08:35 PM
Feb 3

meat packing plants faced. But his attention to detail led to the stomach-turning revelation that America's sausages contained whatever meats they were supposed to, plus rats and rat-parts, insects, insecticide, and whatever got swept up off the factory floor. That led to public outcry and the passage of the Pure Food and Drug Act.

Sinclair remarked "I aimed for American's heart, and got it in the stomach, instead."

GB_RN

(3,300 posts)
36. Killing His Customers...
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 07:50 PM
Feb 3

Great way to stay in business.

I have yet to understand why Tesla’s board hasn’t done something to sideline him. Tesla’s sales declines can be traced right back to Eloon.

Justice matters.

(7,874 posts)
71. Well, that's Xi's want too.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 01:40 AM
Feb 4

And Putin's also, since decades actually.

To think the f**king moronic extortionist in chief gave him the keys to all the citizens personal data and, why not, classified documents up to the nuclear codes themselves after just two weeks... injecting bleach was nothing compared to this absolute abomination.

mpcamb

(3,033 posts)
16. Regulations are about stopping raving self-centered A-Holes from ripping heritage asunder, defecation brain.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 05:13 PM
Feb 3

Regulations are for protection for the rest of us from way-too-rich people who think only about themselves.

elleng

(138,110 posts)
17. It is not possble EVER.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 05:16 PM
Feb 3

Government agencies create/draft/propose regulations EVERY DAY, for the myriad tasks they undertake, and thereafter, regulations are accepted and published, in the Federal Register, or declined.

'The Federal Register (FR or sometimes Fed. Reg.) is the official journal of the federal government of the United States that contains government agency rules, proposed rules, and public notices.[1] It is published every weekday, except on federal holidays. The final rules promulgated by a federal agency and published in the Federal Register are ultimately reorganized by topic or subject matter and codified in the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR), which is updated quarterly.[2]

The Federal Register is compiled by the Office of the Federal Register (within the National Archives and Records Administration) and is printed by the Government Publishing Office. There are no copyright restrictions on the Federal Register; as a work of the U.S. government, it is in the public domain.[3]'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Register



ReRe

(11,180 posts)
70. Thank you, elleng!
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 01:25 AM
Feb 4

You definitely are in the running for "Best Teacher". I love learning, and you teach me almost daily! Now, back to the subject at hand.

elleng

(138,110 posts)
77. Thanks, ReRe, and you're welcome!
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 02:53 AM
Feb 4

Seems pretty clear that musk really doesn't understand how the U.S. government works.

Now on to 'important' things!

chowder66

(10,130 posts)
19. Maybe some tech savvy people should show up at Musk businesses and seize them, the computers, bank accounts, etc.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 05:27 PM
Feb 3

bucolic_frolic

(48,609 posts)
26. The FREEDOM TO POLLUTE is worth TRILLIONS to corporations
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 06:01 PM
Feb 3

Pollution will continue until it invades areas where the GOP reside.

Baitball Blogger

(49,178 posts)
27. He is insane.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 06:14 PM
Feb 3

Mark my words. Sanity will return to America and Musk will spend time in jail. Maybe not an American jail, but a jail, just the same.

eppur_se_muova

(38,290 posts)
28. Let's remove the regulations that stop anyone from spoofing X's ISP numbers.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 06:20 PM
Feb 3

Subject X, Tesla, SpaceX, and StarLink to massive DOS attacks -- but make it all perfectly legal.

Ilsa

(62,492 posts)
30. Hell, let's get rid of laws that prohibit me from
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 07:20 PM
Feb 3

feeding Elon sundried mayonnaise and pork chops tartare.

Midnight Writer

(23,447 posts)
33. Does Musk have a cell phone? Does he know the reason he has a unique phone number is because
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 07:42 PM
Feb 3

Last edited Tue Feb 4, 2025, 09:48 AM - Edit history (1)

of regulations? That if not for the regulation of cell phone airwaves the system would not work at all?

How about his Starlink signals? It is federal regulations that keep other users from impinging on his unique signal.

This guy is delusional. He's simultaneously on an acid trip and a power trip, and he has 400 billion plus to fulfil his delusions.

I saw this situation compared to being tied to a chair in a locked room full of toddlers with loaded pistols. It fits.

slightlv

(4,763 posts)
35. Well, this is stupid and dangerous!
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 07:49 PM
Feb 3

But if he wants to do it, give me my marijuana in Kansas RIGHT FREAKING NOW!!!!

And all tax exemptions on churches are GONE NOW!

YoshidaYui

(43,203 posts)
46. WHAT'S IN IT FOR ELON???
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 08:51 PM
Feb 3

THE US TREASURY?? ,.. SURE AND SELL OFF THE ORIGINAL US CONSTITUTION too while you are at it, no one will notice,. if its gone

jmowreader

(51,855 posts)
64. Yui, you know what's in it for him
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 11:54 PM
Feb 3

He makes a lot of very heavily regulated things - rockets, cars, communication equipment... Life would be a whole lot cheaper for him if he could make cars with no front impact protection, could launch rockets without filing temporary flight restrictions along their line of travel, or build communication receivers that didn't have to adhere to regulations about spurious emanation.

Kablooie

(18,835 posts)
47. That is always Musk's technique. Pull everything out till it breaks.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 09:02 PM
Feb 3

Then start putting things back in.
He did it with Space X. He did it with Tesla.
For his tech companies it worked because it wasn't playing with people's lives, just a piece of machinery.

This time, for it to break will mean people will get hurt.

pfitz59

(11,318 posts)
49. "It's a person's fault
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 09:12 PM
Feb 3

if they live downwind or downstream of a polluter. Not the company's." Just move. Oh, can't move? SOL.

Karasu

(550 posts)
54. All the freezing and firing made it pretty clear this was the plan, but now he's just putting it all out there.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 10:00 PM
Feb 3

Aussie105

(6,722 posts)
55. Does that include the regulation
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 10:07 PM
Feb 3

that says that if you see a face that really, really requires a serious punch, you shouldn't do it?

Or the one that says you can't assassinate someone, even if it is for the collective good of humanity?


 

woven

(10 posts)
57. That disgusting feeling of being exposed to his drug fueled wet dream.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 10:11 PM
Feb 3

Is he supplying to his coterie of kiddie "engineers"?

tulipsandroses

(6,730 posts)
58. I predict something awful is going to happen, really awful. Maybe not on US soil but somewhere somehow there will be a
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 10:16 PM
Feb 3

catastrophe because of trump and Eloon.
Will this incompetent congress hold them accountable?
trump may be immune, but eloon is not.
They dragged HRC into the BS hearings, same for Hunter.
There will be blood spilled because of Eloon and the orange wannabe dictator. What all congress do when that happens?

SunSeeker

(54,591 posts)
59. Lack of regulations is NOT "freedom" for the victims of corporate misbehavior.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 10:33 PM
Feb 3

Regulations published in the Federal Register cannot be willy nilly erased. Any changes in regulations must go through a public hearing process. What Musk is proposing is blatantly illegal.

Wingus Dingus

(8,614 posts)
61. This is where I would want to leave the US and never come back.
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 10:52 PM
Feb 3

This is plunging America into a third world hellhole--all so Nazi Muskrat and Trump the other billionaires running our lives now can sit back and laugh at the misfortunes that befall us stupid peasants while the top few get even richer.

DallasNE

(7,682 posts)
62. Nothing Spells Danger Like Musk's Own Words
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 11:50 PM
Feb 3

So, how could a guy with so little common sense become the richest person in the world? So, go ahead and remove banking regulation - what do you suppose would happen? Another Great Depression is too late for reregulation.And all done with a series of Executive Orders. Where does the Constitution allow for this? Hint, it doesn't.

jmowreader

(51,855 posts)
63. Okay...
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 11:50 PM
Feb 3

So, what you're saying Elon, is I should be able to use a really big microwave transmitter to jam your Starlink system? Maybe fly huge drones over Boca Chica on the days you decide to launch your self-exploding rockets?

Sober Retiree

(16 posts)
65. Careful What You Pray For
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 12:08 AM
Feb 4

Never mind the regulation around Amphetamine aspartate monohydrate A.K.A. Adderall. How does this guy get where he is? This piece of crap needs a good whippin. Where the democrats? Fund raising ? Were screwed what do we do? You call your congress people and their not available. Saw Trump clip on Jon Stewart looks like he's going to stroke out any minute now. Give him lots and lots of Adderall. I feel good Karma coming my way.

AKwannabe

(6,571 posts)
66. The common person doesn't have a lot of regulations holding them back
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 12:27 AM
Feb 4

The ilk of musk do.
For a reason.

1000s of reasons.
They wouldrape and pillage all the resources and maybe more. Maybe even the common person

Fuck them. Regulate THEM!

73. Musk should be tied to one of his rockets.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 02:14 AM
Feb 4

When he screams, "You can't do this!" tell him he got rid of all FAA oversight of launches.

Bon voyage, motherfucker. Oh, and your truck sucks rotten eggs.

VMA131Marine

(4,837 posts)
76. Yes, let's just get rid of all the FAA regulations
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 02:51 AM
Feb 4

and see the number of deaths in airliner crashes balloon. Sure, we can trust Boeing to build safe airplanes without any regulations… 🤦🏻

Ray Bruns

(4,943 posts)
78. "These regulations are added willy-nilly all the time"
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 07:43 AM
Feb 4

That’s a lie. Usually someone has died requiring a regulation to be made.

neohippie

(1,190 posts)
79. We don't need no education
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 07:44 AM
Feb 4

or regulation... no food safety no drug testing or approvals. no seatbelts, airbags, no fuel standards, no controls on what chemicals we mix together, no gun regulations, no restrictions on materials that make explosives, no air traffic controls, no regulations on AI or even traffic signal impeding the freedom to travel, no license plates, drivers or pilot licenses. No more professional licenses for doctors or lawyers heck all of these laws restricting my freedoms either Burn it all down, no border control abortion regulations, no government at all if it impedes our freedoms. No banking regulations, no building or fire codes, pesky ordinances about building fires on our own property, using BBQ grills inside our houses, no regulations on or need for courts, no law enforcement at all, we can all be free to create our own manifest destinies no regulation of campaign finance, no election rules no pesky speed limits, no rules about having to have emission controls, air quality or pollution caps, safety controls, crosswalks or stop lights I mean none of this is necessary

RussBLib

(9,804 posts)
83. Yeah, who needs red lights or stop signs?
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 10:41 AM
Feb 4

....or food safety, or clean water, or a billion other onerous things that just impede freedom?

https://russblib.blogspot.com/

NickB79

(19,770 posts)
85. I work in food production
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:40 PM
Feb 4

Trust me, if we go fully unregulated, I'm going to try my damnedest to live off of what I can grow, catch, forage and hunt myself. You do NOT want to know what kind of corners will be cut if you give corporations the ability to ship food without quality and safety checks.

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