Lawmakers fear DOGE cuts will drive away next generation of federal workers
Source: NBC News
March 22, 2025, 6:00 AM EDT
WASHINGTON President Donald Trump and Elon Musks sweeping federal layoffs arent just wreaking havoc on tens of thousands of employees across the country. Lawmakers in both parties are warning the cuts will harm the governments ability to recruit young people out of college as well as highly skilled candidates from the private sector causing a ripple effect that could be felt for years or even decades.
The recruiting challenge theyre creating for themselves is enormous, Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., whose state is home to hundreds of thousands of federal workers, said of the Department of Government Efficiencys efforts. I dont think thats an accidental byproduct. I think thats a known consequence and they dont care.
Sen. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., whose state also borders Washington, D.C., and is home to thousands of federal employees, agreed with Kaine that DOGEs headline-grabbing, scorched-earth approach is designed, in part, to drive away the next generation of civil servants.
Im very worried that this will discourage talented young people from joining the federal service, Van Hollen, the son of two former federal workers, said in an interview. A lot of people who join the federal service do it for all the right reasons; theyre patriots and they want to serve the country. And with the Musk-Trump approach, theyre effectively terrorizing the federal civil service.
Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/lawmakers-fear-doge-cuts-will-drive-away-generation-federal-workers-rcna197085

hlthe2b
(109,228 posts)Decimating Federal agencies while ruthlessly (and with the highest degree of ignorance, lack of consideration, and disrespect) summarily fire people--many by an email from someone whose knowledge exists of screen time in their grandma's basement eating Cheetos...
Well, the 90s brought New Gingrich's hateful rhetoric that incited Tim McVeigh to bomb the Murrah Federal Building--which surely "showed all those lazy Fed employees"-- but Musk/Trump have done one better. Their bomb is multi-agency/multi-city and yes, it will be multi-generational. And their "bomb" will impact most of the entire populace. Wow. "That'll show 'em"...
COL Mustard
(7,346 posts)It's a feature. And they have it planned out completely. Demoralize, discourage new hires, pretty soon they'll start RIF'ing us old farts, then what's left?
MLWR
(282 posts)When you take a job, you sign a contract. If the contracts with the government can be torn up by a madman's will, and if you can never be sure anymore that a madman won't be elected by the country's morons, your contract may very well not be worth the paper it's written on.
Prairie Gates
(4,900 posts)The next paragraph quotes Don Bacon (R - Nebraska), but he doesn't say anything about recruiting:
Many students who had plans of public service have had to change or abandon those. It's fucking horrible. But yes, who would take a job with a probationary period when DOGE is just using probationary status as a means of firing people. It's ludicrous.
lonely bird
(2,262 posts)Bacon thinks some things funded were stupid. Perhaps he can explain which ones were stupid and why? But let us set that aside.
There wont be a next generation of federal workers because the Techbros want EVERYTHING privatized. Destruction of the federal government was and is the point.
Midnight Writer
(23,728 posts)Septua
(2,756 posts)..we're headed for the Golden Age. He's fu*king insane.
I heard a comment today that the two people actually setting the direction of the government is Peter Thiel and Musk. I can believe that.
bamagal62
(3,873 posts)Its what they want.
SWBTATTReg
(25,180 posts)idiot? Every time a new wave of legislators comes in (2 or 4 years), the entire make up of federal workers would change. Guaranteed to make a big incompetent mess, just the reverse of what tRUMP has claimed to be doing, in draining the swamp. In fact, he's bringing the swamp in faster and faster.
Some state governments and businesses already know this and are snapping up these laid off federal workers (I would, they know the 'ropes' of how to get around the bureaucracy and play the 'game').
Irish_Dem
(68,426 posts)Skittles
(163,539 posts)who the hell would want to risk this kind of cruelty and chaos every time repukes "win" an election???
cstanleytech
(27,546 posts)Hopefully this shit show will lead to a super majority Congress for the Democrats as that's the only way we're going to be able to address the Republicans deliberately trying to destroy America.
FakeNoose
(37,184 posts)If they haven't figured it out for themselves, I'm sure the professors and advisors are all steering students away from government service. Plus we've got way too many lawyers already. Today's young people had better learn a foreign language and plan on moving to Europe (or Asia) the first chance they get.
If I were in my 20's I'd be looking at Denmark or the Netherlands. Of course Germany is my first choice even now.
travelingthrulife
(2,099 posts)Septua
(2,756 posts) DOD...cut 6,000 jobs
NOAA...layoff 10% of the workforce
Veteran Affairs...cut 80,000 jobs
..and the list goes on.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(13,130 posts)"Thank you for your service. Now get fucked."
Seinan Sensei
(941 posts)Centerpiece of Curtis Yarvins ideology
Yarvin is mentor to JD Vance
delisen
(6,941 posts)Language studies will be useful.
In the long run we will benefit if graduates work in other western countries.
RazorbackExpat
(469 posts)I had a Master's Degree and still no one wanted me, even though there was one job in particular I applied for that I thought was tailor-made for me. But Fate told me I was needed somewhere else.
BumRushDaShow
(151,084 posts)a "benign" version of what you see now. He started off his first term with the firing of over 11,000 ATCs and it went downhill from there.
When I started in the '80s, the next youngest person in my lab was literally 15 years OLDER than me (there was that much of a hiring gap).
Glad you found someone who valued your knowledge!
RazorbackExpat
(469 posts)and then the 80s became one of the most dangerous eras for air travel. And to add insult to injury, the Reagan cult had to change the name of National Airport to Reagan National Airport. It's like, WTF, man?
BumRushDaShow
(151,084 posts)That was a disgrace.
The air system has STILL never recovered from that - especially when there was a steady increase in air traffic since that happened. And it is about to get even worse.
Yet the MAGats have pretty much thrown Raygun under the bus... it's that bad.
travelingthrulife
(2,099 posts)Too bad he's not a member of a co-equal branch of government, he could do something about this.
Luciferous
(6,407 posts)working for the SSA but I think that's out now.
CountAllVotes
(21,700 posts)Ten years of it. What a waste of time.
I have nothing to show for it either.
No one cared to work for them when I did either.
It was a thankless job.
It will be even more difficult to recruit people like me, as GS-2 step 1. Pay was $2.88 an hour. Big damn deal!