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BumRushDaShow

(152,457 posts)
Fri May 9, 2025, 06:05 AM May 9

DHS Secretary Flouts SCOTUS Order, Says 'No Scenario' Where Abrego Garcia Comes Back

Source: Huff Post

May 8, 2025, 06:06 PM EDT


WASHINGTON — Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem on Thursday openly flouted a Supreme Court order to facilitate the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia to the U.S., insisting during a Senate committee hearing that there is “no scenario” in which the Maryland man will be in the country again.

In response, Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) called her remarks “incredibly chilling for the balance of powers in a democracy.” Noem was testifying before a Senate appropriations subcommittee when she made her comments about Abrego Garcia, who federal law enforcement officials last month arrested in his home state of Maryland and deported to an El Salvador prison.

The Trump administration has accused Abrego Garcia, who has no criminal record, of being a member of the international gang MS-13, which his family and attorneys have denied. Originally from El Salvador, he was granted a “withholding of removal” order in 2019, which prevents the U.S. government from sending him back to his country of origin due to a credible fear of persecution. He’d been legally living in Maryland until ICE agents detained and deported him in March, which the administration said was due to an “administrative error.”

In a 9-0 decision, the Supreme Court last month ordered the Trump administration to immediately “facilitate” Abrego Garcia’s return and proceed with its case against him in the U.S., as he was never given due process, which is required by the Constitution. But the administration has been violating the court’s order — which on Thursday Noem bizarrely said wasn’t true, while also insisting Abrego Garcia is never coming back to the U.S.

Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kristi-noem-supreme-court-order-kilmar-abrego-garcia_n_681cd152e4b0a178bbffc98e

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DHS Secretary Flouts SCOTUS Order, Says 'No Scenario' Where Abrego Garcia Comes Back (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 9 OP
When the SC gave total immunity to a ruthless psychopath they gave away their power. Irish_Dem May 9 #1
It is very dark that his cabinet secretaries are marching in line bucolic_frolic May 9 #2
Not if we have JustAnotherGen May 9 #6
OFFS! justaprogressive May 9 #3
Who's supposed to do that? maxsolomon May 9 #14
Can the judge in this case... oysterpoint May 9 #22
Yes. The judge absolutely can. johnnyfins May 10 #27
There's been a coup and half the country hasn't even noticed. groundloop May 9 #4
"The only answer I come up with is that we're fucked." BumRushDaShow May 9 #8
We are going to need JustAnotherGen May 9 #5
Lock her up!! 2naSalit May 9 #7
For as long as court rulings and edicts remain unenforced the top tier of our justice system remains absolutely Lawless. Magoo48 May 9 #9
And you say what, roberts, to this ? republianmushroom May 9 #10
The Justice Dept enforces Supreme Court orders Bayard May 9 #11
Noem building her Deplorable bonafides to become Presidential candidate material? NoMoreRepugs May 9 #12
Can't the Committee members give a transcript of this testimony to Garcia's lawyers who can then present it to SCOTUS ancianita May 9 #13
Noem needs to be sued for her comments. THEN ( By Garcia's lawyers) bluestarone May 9 #17
You can't sue someone for comments. Testimony, yes. Then actions & matching testimony that provably cause harm. ancianita May 10 #25
Too bad ICE doesn't pick her up without her ID and send her ass down there. flying_wahini May 9 #15
Homeland Security is an oxymoron. twodogsbarking May 9 #16
She's a brown shirt. The courts are not done with this...and yes, he will be coming home. Unfortunately PortTack May 9 #18
Hitler murdered the leadership of the Brown Shirts Kaleva May 9 #19
Lock her stanky ass up, with no conjugal visits from Corey Lewandowski. Efilroft Sul May 9 #20
One of the cruelest. Marcuse May 9 #21
Is it possible for the SCOTUS or district court to issue Noem a supoena LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 9 #23
So why the fuck should ANYONE obey the Supreme Court at all, then? If you're going to force a constitutional crisis, Karasu May 10 #24
Kristi Troell better have a good lawyer, only trump has immunity. Shes betting on a pardon that may not arrive. Dumb. Blues Heron May 10 #26

Irish_Dem

(69,645 posts)
1. When the SC gave total immunity to a ruthless psychopath they gave away their power.
Fri May 9, 2025, 06:09 AM
May 9

They were too arrogant and stupid to realize what they had done.
They thought he would just destroy the people they hate.
They didn't realize he would destroy them too.

bucolic_frolic

(50,324 posts)
2. It is very dark that his cabinet secretaries are marching in line
Fri May 9, 2025, 06:12 AM
May 9

They see *no consequences* to ignoring SCOTUS order, which means they have no worry of being charged with crimes over this, which means they expect presidential pardons if they are charged, which means MAGA Republicans have no intent to relinquish power in their lifetimes.

It's not enough to say 'it's not a violation of law if you save the country'. That's just bravado. This is far more.

JustAnotherGen

(34,984 posts)
6. Not if we have
Fri May 9, 2025, 08:11 AM
May 9

A Reconciliation Commission when the Regime falls. Crimes against the Constitution and Humanity.

We can create a reality where we don't go back to the status quo of 1865.

oysterpoint

(11 posts)
22. Can the judge in this case...
Fri May 9, 2025, 08:56 PM
May 9

…deputize basically anyone to become their Marshals (DC metro police for example), and then have them go arrest Noem, Bondi, etc. until the decision by SCOTUS is implemented? The founding fathers were very concerned about a tyrannical executive taking power. Maybe this is how it’s done?

groundloop

(12,891 posts)
4. There's been a coup and half the country hasn't even noticed.
Fri May 9, 2025, 08:04 AM
May 9


I'm attempting to figure out in my feeble little mind how the Supreme Court will ever enforce its' decision if tRump controls all the agencies responsible for enforcement. The only answer I come up with is that we're fucked.

BumRushDaShow

(152,457 posts)
8. "The only answer I come up with is that we're fucked."
Fri May 9, 2025, 08:25 AM
May 9

The states if they can show what they have done has violated state law.

That is why he is whining about Tina Peters being locked up (as she should be) in CO - with a conviction/sentence by the state.

JustAnotherGen

(34,984 posts)
5. We are going to need
Fri May 9, 2025, 08:09 AM
May 9

A reconciliation court when this Regime falls. The world will call it a Kangaroo Court.

I don't care. We need to make examples out of these folks.

Magoo48

(6,308 posts)
9. For as long as court rulings and edicts remain unenforced the top tier of our justice system remains absolutely Lawless.
Fri May 9, 2025, 08:26 AM
May 9

The only way to pressure being insane fascists at the top is to bring millions of Americans to a grinding halt. Massive pressure, rolling general strikes, and obstinate obstruction on a daily basis until this shit changes. It’s the only way I see that we can protect, and then recharge our democracy. This democracy belongs to us, we are responsible for its maintenance, so, as it stands now, if something doesn’t change, then nothing will change. It is on us.

Bayard

(25,062 posts)
11. The Justice Dept enforces Supreme Court orders
Fri May 9, 2025, 12:22 PM
May 9

Right?


None of this is going to change without the arrest of lawless officials. Enforce that co-equal branches of government thing.

ancianita

(40,444 posts)
13. Can't the Committee members give a transcript of this testimony to Garcia's lawyers who can then present it to SCOTUS
Fri May 9, 2025, 01:12 PM
May 9

to offer as evidence for a contempt ruling, and arrest warrant for Noem to be detained until Garcia is returned?

bluestarone

(19,801 posts)
17. Noem needs to be sued for her comments. THEN ( By Garcia's lawyers)
Fri May 9, 2025, 05:34 PM
May 9

Be called in before the Supreme Court.

ancianita

(40,444 posts)
25. You can't sue someone for comments. Testimony, yes. Then actions & matching testimony that provably cause harm.
Sat May 10, 2025, 08:45 AM
May 10

SCOTUS can rule on whether her testimony match her illegal orders, and then find her in contempt of its ruling.

flying_wahini

(8,073 posts)
15. Too bad ICE doesn't pick her up without her ID and send her ass down there.
Fri May 9, 2025, 03:15 PM
May 9

We may not have to Ever see or hear from her again.
Wouldn’t that be great?

PortTack

(35,631 posts)
18. She's a brown shirt. The courts are not done with this...and yes, he will be coming home. Unfortunately
Fri May 9, 2025, 05:42 PM
May 9

Not as soon as it should be

F..k that bitch!

23. Is it possible for the SCOTUS or district court to issue Noem a supoena
Fri May 9, 2025, 10:40 PM
May 9

to come before the Court and show cause why she should not be held in contempt of court for disobeying the SCOTUS 9-0 order to bring Mr. Garcia back to the United States? She has stated under oath that there is no way he's returning home.

Karasu

(1,121 posts)
24. So why the fuck should ANYONE obey the Supreme Court at all, then? If you're going to force a constitutional crisis,
Sat May 10, 2025, 02:46 AM
May 10

then we all have the right to ask that fucking question.

Blues Heron

(6,936 posts)
26. Kristi Troell better have a good lawyer, only trump has immunity. Shes betting on a pardon that may not arrive. Dumb.
Sat May 10, 2025, 09:02 AM
May 10
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