Joe Rogan Feels Trump Betrayed Him on Immigration

[highplainsdem]

Source: Gizmodo

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Rogan, who endorsed Trump just hours before the 2024 presidential election, now says he was misled by the man he helped boost into office. The podcaster and UFC commentator, known for giving a platform to anti-cancel culture figures and free speech advocates, is now accusing Trump of betraying the very values he campaigned on.

“We were told there would be…,” Rogan began during a July 2 episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, before trailing off and recalibrating. “There’s two things that are insane. One is the targeting of migrant workers, not cartel members, not gang members, not drug dealers, just construction workers showing up at construction sites, raiding them. Gardeners. Like, really?”

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“Fascism is the response almost always to communism,” Rogan said on the same podcast, quoting ANthony Rispo, a student of psychology and neuroscience at Columbia University. “What we experience in this country is this continual overcorrection. Overcorrection to the left, then overcorrection to the right, to counter that.”

In other words, Rogan is wondering if Trump’s policies are an overcorrection too far, and if they resemble fascism more than freedom.

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Read more: https://gizmodo.com/joe-rogan-feels-trump-betrayed-him-on-immigration-2000624426

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Rogan's support of Trump had followed Musk's, and the article points out that with both now disillusioned, Trump could lose the support of many of the "disaffected men, anti-establishment voters, young libertarians, and people tired of traditional politics" who make up their followers/audience.

Rogan also complained about people being deported or threatened with deportation just for being critical of Israel.

[speak easy]

1. "targeting of migrant workers, not cartel members, not gang members, not drug dealers" ???

Rogan has a selective memory, or maybe he heard only what he wanted to hear. Krasnov was promising, always promising, 'the biggest mass deportation operation in history.'

[Ocelot II]

2. Moron. If he'd been paying any attention and not just sniffing Trump's farts,

he would have known all this was coming, just as we did.

[underpants]

3. Rogan thinks there was a big swing to the left?

Stated in the form of a question because that’s one of Rogan’s tricks. He asks questions (with a point) but doesn’t state things very often.


His guest, Amjad Masad, the Palestinian founder and CEO of the coding platform Replit, agreed. The two were discussing the Trump administration’s crackdown on immigrants, especially in the context of escalating tensions over Gaza and political speech on U.S. campuses.

Masad brought up recent reports of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) targeting Palestinian students and immigrants on flimsy pretenses. “Did you see the video of the Turkish student at Tufts University who wrote an essay?” he asked.

Rogan responded, incredulous: “It was just critical of Israel, right? And that’s enough to get you kicked out of the country?”

[Safe as Milk]

30. Rogan is an ignorant idiot.

The fact that he's got a social media platform doesn't make him educated. He's obviously got no historical or political science background and is just blowing words out of his ass. People can listen to his drivel, or they can pick up a book or two by Timothy Snyder if they want to know about the etiologies of fascism.

[RedArkGuy]

43. That, he is, but he also may be a barometer

. . . of the psychology of so many male voters who went for Biden in 2020 and then switched to Trump in 24. Or the many voters Biden got who stayed home in 24.

[RockRaven]

5. Joe Rogan is DEEPLY dishonest about his own record. He is a LIAR.

He lies about his biases. He lies about his decisions. He lies about what he has said in the past. He lies about his guests' sayings. He lies about documents. He lies, lies, lies in ways which are trivial to expose. And millions of fuckwits slurp it down daily.

[RedArkGuy]

44. True

I imagine it would be pretty easy to find in his shows many instances when he supported mass deportations of not just those who have committed violent crimes but everyone who is undocumented.

Notably, he doesn't seem bothered at all by the cut of $1 trillion to healthcare over the next ten years. And I'm sure he's hunky-dory with RFK Jr's nonsense.

[Joinfortmill]

6. Better late than never... I know, I know.

[BaronChocula]

7. As I posted here days ago

Joe Rogan is THAT stupid.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220429169

[ificandream]

8. I don't think Trump will lose support based on his actions.

His very actions are what the racist Trump supporters want. It's going to take a lot more ... another pandemic maybe ... to get them to change their minds, I fear.

[slightlv]

19. I fear only if that pandemic cuts a huge swath of death

among them, and mostly them (because the rest of us vax and take precautions!). Something like that *might* wake up a few of them.

[DSandra]

28. It took George W. Bush supporters the Iraq War and Katrina, about five years, to start souring on him

And by the 2008 election they pretended that they never supported him.

[RedArkGuy]

45. The polls do show a loss of support though.

But nowadays I guess we'd need to see him go below 35 percent before we can be sure his benighted party would lose what passes for a fair election in 26.

[tonkatoy8888]

9. I must have missed

our descent into communism. Maybe I was napping or perhaps out of the country when this seismic shift in political orientation occurred.

With this group there's always a lot of bullshit, but honestly, implying that our lurch into authoritarianism was a reaction to communism? Deep thinkers, or even the nominally educated are not a large part of the GOP machine.

[ificandream]

16. This sentence you wrote really nails it ...

"Deep thinkers, or even the nominally educated are not a large part of the GOP machine."

And that runs all the way to the top of the ladder in Republicanism.

[reACTIONary]

38. Thanks! Exactly my thought!

[RedArkGuy]

46. They think communism is . . .

. . . kids being able to transition to their chosen gender with their parents' permission. Or public high schools with Black or Latino History electives.

[Deminpenn]

47. Started with the New Deal according to

RW conservatives.

[DanBaron]

10. Interesting Post

Rogan is more like an Old School Republican rather than a typical MAGA clown. We might get him on our side on some issues. Maybe get someone like Mayor Pete on his Show if we can cool this Media War down a bit and get some detente.

[womanofthehills]

22. Actually- Rogan up until this past election always declared he was a liberal

He was a Bernie Bro (in the past he had Bernie on numerous times) and always spoke of never having voted for a Republican before this election in his life. . He says he’s socially liberal. He might have some Independent tendencies as he has on Dave Smith a lot but so do many shows . Crystal Ball is bringing on Dave Smith a lot too. Dave Smith, Crystal Ball & Rogan all have been speaking up against the genocide in Gaza -

He was attacked big time over ivermectin with many calling for his removal from Spotify . That might have affected his politics. I think his friendship with Elon might have affected him negatively as he said “his 3 hr interview with Elon made the most compelling case for Trump. In 2020, he supported Bernie Sanders and in 2024 Robert Kennedy when Kennedy was running for president before he joined with Trump.

He has so many comedians & sports people on but he sometimes has interesting guests and I will listen to those podcasts. Last week he had Bernie on and it was good to listen to Bernie for almost 2 hours.

[DanBaron]

35. Thanks

I don't really follow Rogan so thank you for the info. I guess that he was one of the good people who were duped by Trump.

[MrsCheaplaugh]

50. No good people were duped by Trump

Rogan's just an idiot with a microphone and an audience. His political convictions change depending on who his guest of the week is. If he has Bernie on, he parrots Bernie; if he has Elon on, he parrots Elon. The man's as stupid as a rock, and spineless in the bargain -- a perfect Trump follower.

[mdbl]

11. Who gives a shit what Joe Blowgan has to say

other than the dopes that listen to him.

[sir pball]

24. The "dopes that listen to him" are a not-insignificant voting bloc.

The OP says it at the end - disillusioned, anti-establishment/libertarian types, lotsa young males, who broke much harder for Trump this cycle than 2020.

I'm not gonna suddenly start praising the guy, but TFG potentially losing him is actually a pretty major strategic blow.

[mdbl]

42. I rest my case.

The idiocracy prevailed in the last election.

[yardwork]

12. There's no communism here to over-correct.

Joe Rogan must be exceptionally stupid.

[Aristus]

31. He is.

But he’s also media-savvy enough to know that he has to hew to the “both-sides” idiocy in order to preserve deniability against accusations of bias.

[yardwork]

36. I'm so tired of these people.

[Aristus]

37. You and me both.

[reACTIONary]

39. Exactly! An exceptionally stupid remark that....

... might make him seem to be a "thinker" to some bar stool blowhards.

[DrFunkenstein]

54. I Always Wish Someone Would Follow Up and Ask For Specifics

Because the whole "communist" thing dissolves with the least scrutiny.

[mitch96]

13. Ahh yes...buyers remorse... Can he get a refund???? nope...nt

[William Seger]

14. Someone needs to explain to Joe Rogan that he lacks critical thinking skills

He'll never figure it out for himself.

[MLWR]

15. I'm not impressed by this admission/confession/whatever this is supposed to be.

From his first term, it was clear to anyone paying a modicum of attention that trump lies. All the time. About any- and everything. He, like a toddler pushes boundaries; he carries grudges and avenges any and all grievances. He let everyone know, he intended not to govern but to rule like a dictator. His hatred for Latin Americans was always clear and left no doubts. Now, he's building concentration camps and threatening legal, American citizens. If he didn't see fascism coming with trump, he lacks the ability to connect the dots and that is on him.

[msongs]

17. how is this even news, let alone late breaking. nt

[womanofthehills]

23. Maybe because Rogan has the largest podcast audience in the world

And up until endorsing Trump he was a liberal.

Rogan has more daily listeners than all of cable tv combined so he is a huge force.

[Keepthesoulalive]

29. Follow the money

Joe goes where the money goes. I think the Midas touch podcast has passed him in terms of people watching and listening. The man has no core values and many of the people listening are the same. Trump was not good for the country and that is what we should be focused on not the latest talking head.

[Clouds Passing]

18. Hey rogaine...

[Ray Bruns]

20. Hey Joe, welcome to the club called humanity.

Trump lies like other people breathe.

[patphil]

21. Rogan is equating liberalism with communism. Somebody should hand this guy a dictionary.

Or at least wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

Although Liberalism does have some elements of Socialism in it, it is definitely different than both Socialism, and Communism.
Far-left liberals support private enterprise, but with a social conscious that seeks to help those in need, while putting constraints on those people and companies that adhere to a philosophy of self enrichment at the expense of society.
Also, far-left liberals would never advocate the government ownership and control of everything that is at the core of communism.

[reACTIONary]

40. That equivocation is endemic amoung...

... small minded, shallow thinking, right wing extremists.

[ananda]

25. He is so ignorant and full of shit it's unreal.

Sheesh

[DSandra]

26. Two Words: "Useful Idiot"

Too many of them in America.

[sop]

27. Trump promised he would deport one million immigrants annually.

By all accounts, there aren't that many dangerous criminal immigrants in the U.S. Where did Rogan think these millions of deportees would come from?

[pansypoo53219]

32. i get to cal him a dumbass fool.

[republianmushroom]

33. Damn, Joe, you mean to tell me you didn't known trump lies ?

You live under that same rock as Newt ? Another one trying to cover his ass now.

[lonely bird]

34. Rogan...

Is an excellent example of the fracturing and destruction of media.

If everyone is media then no one is media.

[LudwigPastorius]

41. Rogan is a moron.

...a meathead.

He is morphing into a giant, talking human thumb.

[moniss]

48. It is ridiculous to have media write

articles saying that Crumb The 1st might lose the support of the people who follow Rogan etc. Crumb The 1st doesn't give a damn about that because he's got the power now and doesn't need them in order to stay in power. With voter suppression and gerrymandering turned up to the nth degree the people around him are planning on keeping control of Congress after the mid-terms. With the explosion of the ICE budget and the massive hiring of American Gestapo goons to come you can count on them being deployed at the polls and at ballot drop boxes and any registration drives. Then on Election Day they will likely engage in shenanigans to claim that various voting sites need to be closed or restricted because of a "security" situation. Of course those sites will be in Democratic areas only.

People might think a judge might order extended hours for voting but do these people have a track record of following orders from the courts? Not really. Then we'll hear "It's too late now to to go back and correct the situation."

[LisaL]

49. Dude, what wasn't clear about

"mass deportations." Trump wasn't hiding his plans.

[yourout]

51. I call BS.

[Omnipresent]

52. I know.

Trump has been so sincere and honest ever since he descended that escalator 10 years, to announce he was running.
No one knew that he could be so erratic when he ran for President again in 2024.

[SSJVegeta]

53. Moron doesnt even know what communism is

[tulipsandroses]

55. Fuck Joe Rogan. He helped bring us this hellscape.And no one should think for one second that this asshole is on our

side. Note that he says that this is overcorrection of communism. Because being asked not be a hateful sexist bigoted asshole = communism.
As soon as the next trump like figure appears they will run to that person.
Many of the Bernie bros turned to trump in 16 when Bernie lost to Hillary. I am of the belief that it wasn''t Bernie's message they liked, it was that the was running against HRC.
Their sexism and misogyny runs deep. People who are bigoted against one group of people, more than likely share the same disdain for others.

[pecosbob]

56. Rogan is every bit as responsible as those like Bannon for flooding the zone with shit.

He's a wannabe Art Bell without any of his integrity.