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FakeNoose

(35,687 posts)
Tue Jul 9, 2024, 11:33 AM Jul 2024

Today's Tiedrich rant: top New York Times editor: 'defending democracy is not our job'



Link: https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/top-new-york-times-editor-defending

JOURNALISM 101 RULE: If someone says it’s raining, and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. Your job is to look out of the fucking window and find out which is true. — Now more than ever.”
— attributed to many, made famous on twitter by Andrea Junker.

sorry, Andrea — the New York Times would beg to differ. their own version of Journalism 101 goes something like this:
if Democrats say democracy is awesome and Republicans say democracy sucks all ass and Donny Convict should be God-Emperor for Life, it’s not the Times’ job to get involved with “partisan bickering.”


no, seriously. the chief editor of the Times’ newsroom actually said this.

Screenshot:


... there’s a lot to unpack here. topmost, Kahn is right that democracy has become a partisan issue in America. one side is for it. the other side is trying like hell to replace it with permanent fascism — but how fucked up is it that one entire political party has abandoned the principles upon which our country was founded?
- more at link-

I'm delighted with this rant because now Jeff Tiedrich is singing my song. He writes: do your fucking job, New York Times, and stop pretending that a battle over America’s bedrock principles is mere “partisan squabbling.”

Please read the rest on Tiedrich's daily blog "Everyone is entitled to my own opinion."

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Today's Tiedrich rant: top New York Times editor: 'defending democracy is not our job' (Original Post) FakeNoose Jul 2024 OP
If your are an American kacekwl Jul 2024 #1
The NYT either needs a new editor or it needs to move to Russia Blue Owl Jul 2024 #2
You would think that defending democracy would be in their self interest. tikka Jul 2024 #3
Stunning Raven123 Jul 2024 #4
They seem to think that Chump is their "buddy" and he'll never turn on them FakeNoose Jul 2024 #6
Yes. Not just ignorance, but willful ignorance Raven123 Jul 2024 #8
Defending Democracy is a partisan act? patphil Jul 2024 #5
Hell, just stating the facts, all the fact, would... S/V Loner Jul 2024 #7
Maybe consider a name change, The Fascist NY Times? appalachiablue Jul 2024 #9
Fuck you DEAD, NY Times. (nt) Paladin Jul 2024 #10
Kick Rec Bookmark for NYT Editor: 'defending democracy is not our job' Hekate Jul 2024 #11

tikka

(778 posts)
3. You would think that defending democracy would be in their self interest.
Tue Jul 9, 2024, 12:07 PM
Jul 2024

Journalism and journalists don't do well in fascist countries.

Raven123

(6,047 posts)
4. Stunning
Tue Jul 9, 2024, 12:08 PM
Jul 2024

In what non-democratic environment would the NYT exist? That opinion is one of ignorance or complicity with authoritarianism (for which they choose to be a tool). I wonder how their recent behavior will affect their subscription base.

FakeNoose

(35,687 posts)
6. They seem to think that Chump is their "buddy" and he'll never turn on them
Tue Jul 9, 2024, 12:44 PM
Jul 2024

... once he becomes the new Emperor. Yeah right!

He'll destroy every other news outlet in the country ... but he'll never touch the NYT.

patphil

(6,951 posts)
5. Defending Democracy is a partisan act?
Tue Jul 9, 2024, 12:30 PM
Jul 2024

That can only be true if one of the two major parties is defending Democracy, and the other is trying to destroy it.
It used to be that both parties stood for Democracy regardless of their differences, but those days are over, and Joe Kahn is good with it!
Now we know how much our Constitutional Democratic Republic means to Joe Kahn.
Absolutely nothing!
There was once a time when the New York Times was considered one of the most respected newspapers in the nation. Those days are gone, and Joe Kahn is merely a reflection of how far the NYT has sunk.

S/V Loner

(9,110 posts)
7. Hell, just stating the facts, all the fact, would...
Tue Jul 9, 2024, 12:46 PM
Jul 2024

be enough.
If they are not doing that then they certainly have an agenda.

Hekate

(94,665 posts)
11. Kick Rec Bookmark for NYT Editor: 'defending democracy is not our job'
Tue Jul 9, 2024, 10:15 PM
Jul 2024
Today's Tiedrich rant: top New York Times editor: 'defending democracy is not our job'

Link: https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/top-new-york-times-editor-defending

JOURNALISM 101 RULE: If someone says it’s raining, and another person says it’s dry, it’s not your job to quote them both. Your job is to look out of the fucking window and find out which is true. — Now more than ever.”
— attributed to many, made famous on twitter by Andrea Junker.

sorry, Andrea — the New York Times would beg to differ. their own version of Journalism 101 goes something like this:
if Democrats say democracy is awesome and Republicans say democracy sucks all ass and Donny Convict should be God-Emperor for Life, it’s not the Times’ job to get involved with “partisan bickering.”


no, seriously. the chief editor of the Times’ newsroom actually said this.

Screenshot:


... there’s a lot to unpack here. topmost, Kahn is right that democracy has become a partisan issue in America. one side is for it. the other side is trying like hell to replace it with permanent fascism — but how fucked up is it that one entire political party has abandoned the principles upon which our country was founded?
- more at link-

I'm delighted with this rant because now Jeff Tiedrich is singing my song. He writes: do your fucking job, New York Times, and stop pretending that a battle over America’s bedrock principles is mere “partisan squabbling.”

Please read the rest on Tiedrich's daily blog "Everyone is entitled to my own opinion."


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