Wanting Biden To Step Out Is No Longer About Concern Over His Health, It's Now Anti Democratic

[appalachiablue]

Daily Kos, 7.11.24. (456 Recs, 857 Cmts.) Ed.

Biden rocked the NATO press conference (and probably set a record for viewership of a NATO press conference). He was firmly in command of the facts on a wide range of issues. He made some great points about the critical nature of this election and he used this press conference to highlight some of his accomplishments that the media frequently ignores. You cannot make a cogent argument that the man giving this press conference has dementia. He made some gaffes but they were of a type most of us do ourselves and Biden has done for decades.

No, the only reason being given now for Biden to step down is electability. Guess what folks. That means you are trying to save democracy by destroying it. We have a process called a primary. That primary chose Joe Biden to be the Democratic Nominee. The process does not come with a veto by some to not make him the nominee if his polling gets bad. There is NO valid process to remove Biden because you don’t like his chances. The only reason we got to where we are is because some people couldn’t recognize a bad night when they saw one and wanted to make this about Biden being in mental decline.

If you think what we saw at the NATO presser was mental decline then I am more worried about your mental health than Biden’s. For better or for worse the nominee WILL be Biden unless democrats pull an anti-Democratic maneuver to somehow prevent him from becoming the nominee. Every person posting here to slander Biden regarding his mental fitness will certainly be getting an earful from me. Some will certainly be trolls, but others will be Democrats misguided enough to think that removing the properly elected nominee who won the primary in somehow the best way to “save democracy.”

They will drag out any number of polls which come anywhere near making their point. But the polls are meaningless here. The polls play ZERO part in nominating someone. The primary voting determines who will be our nominee. Period. Anything else is to piss all over properly created process and procedure..That Biden faced no serious challenge in the primary is not his fault and does not give you the right to break the process. A poll of 2000 not so randomly sampled opinions does not give you the right to break the process.

If you want the Democrats to succeed at all, you will follow the process. If you want to destroy us, keep on trying to break the process...

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/7/11/2253427/-Wanting-Biden-to-step-out-is-no-longer-about-concern-over-his-health-it-s-now-anti-Democratic

[kacekwl]

1. Well said.

[Frasier Balzov]

2. I'm not worried about winning anymore.

Just effective use of the office and faith in the future.

I assume I'm typical in wanting that.

[appalachiablue]

5. With the alternative we're facing, this election is the most impt.

I've ever experienced. The survival of American Democracy at stake and President Joe Biden is the sane choice for democracy.

[regnaD kciN]

8. I care about winning...

…but I don’t see the Magical Unicorn Candidate anywhere. Even Harris only does, at best, 1% or 2% better against Trump, and that’s well within the MoE.

[Frasier Balzov]

12. If Trump picks a male VP running mate

run two women.

Harris-Whitmer.

Girls versus the boys. Who wins?

[Lifeafter70]

3. I agree. I also believe it was never about his health.

It is all about his agenda and policies. The debate was just the excuse that the big money donors needed. It is those donors that our dems in congress fear not us. They know we will support whomever is on the ticket.
Those big money donors fear Biden. They fear he will go too far in supporting the poor and middle working class with his policies. Thus affecting their bottom line.

[appalachiablue]

9. It's absurd and dangerous I know. The corporate class is rolling

in record profits, and it would take a political earthquake to begin to change things. Biden isn't anywhere near Bernie or FDR on policy.

If the powerful regard any effort to improve the lives of low income and average Americans as a threat, that is incredibly destructive to the country. When does the greed stop.

[Hekate]

4. Plus a million

[pwb]

6. The only reason we have summer politics is to keep trump out of jail.

The wealth class media owners did that for their buddy trump. Everything is fucked up politically. These 24 hour 365 day politics and news channels are failing us for profit. When we pay for services we should be able to expect truth. I left best friends over lying. I won't pay for it. I do have to pay for wifi from our media masters.

[appalachiablue]

10. Yep, it's too much and all about bucks. Media controlled by

anti democratic oligarchs is dysfunctional and dangerous.

[SWBTATTReg]

7. Well, I'm not one to dispute what someone may say about a candidate and such, but at this late stage in the game,

and plus, w/ the GOP hanging over every word that inhouse democrats are saying in meetings, in public, etc. (in effect, interfering as I'm pretty sure 99% they are, by inserting an extra negative BIDEN narrative), I suspect that they are trying to influence some of the discussions somewhat. In short, I don't trust republicans at all.

Are the repugs and their media hags harping for the good of the Country in being negative on Pres. Biden? NO. For the good of allowing the Orange BOZO back into the WH, YES. REMEMBER THIS.

I feel that the back and forth that we're seeing w/in democratic ranks is healthy, and in the long run, it's hardening our resolve to support our candidate Pres. Biden even more so. We see the attacks on Biden seemingly magnify all of a sudden and tRUMP disappears into the background...seems strange.

All it's doing in my mind is strengthen the support of our candidate's (Pres. Biden) support all across the board.

tRUMP is too stupid to shut up for any length of time, so I suspect that tRUMP is having some sort of mental breakdown/loose disconnect between his mouth and his brain, so they kept him under wraps. But just wait...he'll pop up before you know it, and we'll see him and his blown-out mind and mouth in its full glory.

[appalachiablue]

11. The GOP TV performer candidate is so inferior to Biden that the

money driven media has attempted to tear down an outstanding president to give their candidate a greater chance, obviously.

Also, Democratic candidates have to keep their wealthy donors in mind, but enough is enough with the circus. Biden just demonstrated how articulate and with it he is during the recent Nato speech, if people saw it, and compared to the speech in Atlanta after heavy travel.

Agree that the hype is likely strengthening support for Biden. The media must realize this. I wish the negativity about Biden would generate new interest in him, if people aren't too apathetic or polarized by this point. We'll find out.

And where are the justified calls for Trump to step down? He's earned it, but as the choice of the ultra wealthy and personality cult followers he doesn't receive as much scrutiny and they want him as president regardless.

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