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marmar

(78,025 posts)
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 07:46 AM Aug 2024

Republicans can't replace their old man nominee, so they're pretending JD Vance is the GOP candidate


Republicans can't replace their old man nominee, so they're pretending JD Vance is the GOP candidate
Donald Trump's running mate weirds voters out, but at least he's not an incoherent mess like his boss

By Amanda Marcotte
Senior Writer
Published August 12, 2024 6:00AM (EDT)


(Salon) "What a stupid question this is!" Donald Trump recently raged at a journalist during a lengthy public meltdown that was billed as a "press conference." The reporter had correctly noted, "You have not had a public campaign event for nearly a week now." This factual observation set Trump off on a diatribe full of lies. "I’m leading by a lot," he insisted. "I am campaigning a lot," he pushed back. In reality, Vice President Kamala Harris is up two points over the former president in national polling. And while she's been hitting the road, even holding multiple rallies in a day, Trump has mostly been hiding out at Mar-a-Lago, only doing one campaign event in the last week in the MAGA-safe space of Montana. As Philip Bump at the Washington Post showed in a recent analysis, "Trump is holding far fewer rallies" and public appearances than he did in both 2016 and 2020.

....(snip)....

Trump's campaign managers surely know that the more voters see Trump, the more they hate him. Trump's team didn't go after President Joe Biden on the age issue just because it was low-hanging fruit. It was also a way to distract from the fact that their own candidate, who was never that cogent to begin with, is rapidly decompensating from age and the stress of being convicted of 34 felonies. Now Biden's out, and the "Is the candidate too old?" spotlight is on Trump.

Republicans won't be following Democrats by changing their candidate, however. Unlike Biden, Trump is a narcissist who will never accept the truth about his decline. And unlike Democrats, Republicans are too afraid of their leader to tell him the truth. But it's also clear that the GOP wishes they could do a switcharoo. Right now, the Trump campaign is acting like their candidate is not the ranting orange degenerate at all, but his much younger — though still quite weird — running mate, Sen. JD Vance of Ohio.

....(snip)....

At first blush, this would seem like a poor idea. Vance lacks charisma, isn't half as clever as he thinks, and has spent so much time marinating in the world of extremely online fascism that he just seems weird. He's a bearded doppelganger for the equally charmless Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, who Republican voters couldn't reject fast enough during the presidential primary. Running a carbon copy of a guy who couldn't beat Trump in a primary seems, on paper, to be a uniquely stupid campaign strategy. Under the circumstances, however, it makes sense. Vance is annoying, but he can speak in complete sentences, largely avoiding all talk of electrocution sharks and Hannibal Lecter. There are fewer logistical issues in a Vance-centric campaign, as well. He's decades younger than Trump, and so has the energy to travel. Even if the rumors that he wears eyeliner are true, Vance cannot need the hours Trump must spend in hair and makeup just to be seen in public. No doubt the campaign wishes they had a substitute candidate who was less aggravating, but Vance surely looks better than their alternative: an ever-nuttier Donald Trump. ................................(more)

https://www.salon.com/2024/08/12/cant-replace-their-old-man-nominee-so-theyre-pretending-jd-vance-is-the-candidate/




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Republicans can't replace their old man nominee, so they're pretending JD Vance is the GOP candidate (Original Post) marmar Aug 2024 OP
And they just found a pic of j d in Drag Fullduplexxx Aug 2024 #1
Two now mahina Aug 2024 #13
UGH........................................... Lovie777 Aug 2024 #2
This description is perfect: Diamond_Dog Aug 2024 #3
Vance is like DeSantis. Only without the personality. Midnight Writer Aug 2024 #4
I didn't know DeSantis had personality? 33taw Aug 2024 #5
Vance is like DeSantis. Only without the boots. Neither has any personality. dem4decades Aug 2024 #8
they're very similar Skittles Aug 2024 #16
Effectively, he IS the nominee. Beware. Jirel Aug 2024 #6
I think that's the plan and that's why Heritage Foundation leaders wanted Vance as VP. Lonestarblue Aug 2024 #9
Vance will be parroting the decisions... MiHale Aug 2024 #10
Agree. I thought this too. LearnedHand Aug 2024 #17
Of course, that's exactly why they must lose, and they will lose by a large margin FakeNoose Aug 2024 #19
The scumiest of human degenerates,.. magicarpet Aug 2024 #7
Jebus, wouldn't that put a kibosh on MAGAworld. Donnie steps back and Vance runs. marble falls Aug 2024 #11
He's within earshot of candidacy. usonian Aug 2024 #12
Sleepy & Creepy, what a pair! Sky Jewels Aug 2024 #14
Makeup on men Roy Rolling Aug 2024 #15
Wait. I want to be bored. LearnedHand Aug 2024 #18
NDA Roy Rolling Aug 2024 #20
😂 LearnedHand Aug 2024 #21

Diamond_Dog

(34,641 posts)
3. This description is perfect:
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 07:52 AM
Aug 2024

“Vance lacks charisma, isn't half as clever as he thinks, and has spent so much time marinating in the world of extremely online fascism that he just seems weird. He's a bearded doppelganger for the equally charmless Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, who Republican voters couldn't reject fast enough during the Presidential primary.”

Jirel

(2,259 posts)
6. Effectively, he IS the nominee. Beware.
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 08:01 AM
Aug 2024

It’s no joke, and several of these opinions are scary-wrong.

Think about it logically for a minute.

This freak is the VP nom.

I’m guessing Tangerine Palpatine is rapidly losing whatever marbles he had. That means they will run him as best they can, while having Corporal Press Release out getting face time and trying to normalize him to the electorate. Because if the GQP wins, whether Tangerine gets Baker Acted between the election and taking office, or is 25thed in his 3rd week in office, VANCE LIKELY WILL BE PRESIDENT ALMOST OUT OF THE GATES.

It’s time to take this seriously, and keep them from normalizing this Nazi. It’s time to fight hard, make the point that DonOld is failing mentally, and that they are truly running Corporal Press Release as their expected POTUS.

Lonestarblue

(11,831 posts)
9. I think that's the plan and that's why Heritage Foundation leaders wanted Vance as VP.
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 08:20 AM
Aug 2024

He’s their guy and if Trump wins and staffs his administration with the people already vetted by the Heritage Foundation, then the loyalty will be to HF, not Trump and agency heads can simply force him out with the 25th Amendment.

Even if they just let Trump get more and more demented in office, it will be Vance making the decisions. Trump will not serve a full term.

MiHale

(10,784 posts)
10. Vance will be parroting the decisions...
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 08:28 AM
Aug 2024

made by HF. I doubt either trump or vance would be allowed to make decisions, too much room for error.

LearnedHand

(4,050 posts)
17. Agree. I thought this too.
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 04:40 PM
Aug 2024

This scares me even more. Shay-Dee won't disown P2025. He'll celebrate it.

FakeNoose

(35,687 posts)
19. Of course, that's exactly why they must lose, and they will lose by a large margin
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 04:46 PM
Aug 2024


Blue Tsunami coming in November!

magicarpet

(16,517 posts)
7. The scumiest of human degenerates,..
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 08:03 AM
Aug 2024

... dusted off,.. propped up,... and polished - in anticipation for holding the highest office of the US Presidency.

The GOP used to be better than this,... America still is. This Tangerine Menace clown show is so totally shameful & embarrassing.

Roy Rolling

(7,174 posts)
15. Makeup on men
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 03:55 PM
Aug 2024

I’ve worked the better part of my life in an industry where men frequently wear makeup. There’s reasons I won’t bore people with, but prominent eyeliner on this weirdo is clownish.

If he’s gonna wear makeup, hire a professional *union* makeup artist, which he’s 99% guaranteed not to get. They won’t work for him.

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