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[jimfields33]

1. Holy crap! No wonder they wanted the United States out of their country.

I don’t get shocked easily, but I definitely am on this news.

[lastlib]

14. Not shocked, but appalled.

I weep at the pervy god they worship. It sickens me

[ananda]

17. How about both shocked and appalled!

These Muslim states' treatment of women
is astoundingly harsh and restrictive.

Misogyny seems to be growing worldwide.
America is trending in this direction as well.

Men must feel really threatened and need
to scapegoat, mistreat, and confine women
to a degree that is just astounding!

[Mister Ed]

2. "Marriage", they say?

This is not about "marriage". This is about purchasing, owning, and enslaving girls and women.

[valleyrogue]

44. That is what marriage IS.

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It always has been a transaction where men buy sexual access to women in exchange for material support for women. It is the cornerstone of patriarchy and always was. It is a form of prostitution.

The entire system is rigged against women to coerce them to marry so men get sexual access. Women are seeing the truth and are rejecting it. That is why so many men are stomping angry.

Hallmark card nonsense about love, partnership, and commitment have nothing to do with it.

[Mister Ed]

45. Oh. Is my marriage indeed a form of prostitution and slavery?

Is the marriage of my friends Elizabeth and Karen a form of prostitution and slavery?

Please tell me more of what you know about us and our marriages.

[valleyrogue]

49. Your marriage is irrelevant to the discussion.

The truth is the truth. It IS a form of prostitution. It is the flip side of prostitution. The only difference is in degree. How do you explain marriages with children, with dowries, with mail order brides, with impoverishing women by men hoarding resources so that they have to sell themselves to the highest bidder? How do you explain away an economic system that is rigged against women for the simple reason that to starve women economically makes it easier for men to gain sexual access?

The fact is men will not marry women unless they get sexual access to women. The legal bennies come with a price for women, which is they must trade their bodies to get everything materially. That is how the great majority of women become "homeowners." That is how marriage is still the major means of upward mobility for women. It is purely transactional. Most men worldwide think this way of women, and if that upsets you, so be it. That is the mentality of the men who voted for Trump. Women are objects for sexual access and reproduction. That is all they are "for."

You don't want to hear the truth. I get it, it is extremely uncomfortable, but marriage needs to die out. I suspect in the next 100 years, it will die out in the West.

[Mister Ed]

50. This is a thread about nine-year-old girls being raped and enslaved.

You do me and others a grave and ugly injustice by equating our marriages to their plight.

Your pedantic, boilerplate dogma and your broadbrush condemnation of marriage will not help those girls in the least. Carry on with it if you will, though. I will pay no further heed.

[calimary]

3. O. M. G.

Absolutely BEYOND Horrible!

[GPV]

4. God, those poor babies are being sold by their own fathers. They have sperm donors, not real

daddies, over there.

[Lonestarblue]

5. Afghanistan is the same, with girls sold to men 5 and 6 times their age.

Just disgusting.

[Walleye]

6. Why on earth did so many Americans die fighting there. And now we're turning into Iraq.

[LisaM]

12. Women's rights started dwindling even while we were there.

My memory is a little dim here, but I seem to recall that Iraqi women were among the best educated in the Middle East before we went in. I am not defending Saddam Hussein or his human rights record. Who would? But women's rights in Iraq started eroding with the subsequent regimes that replaced him. I remember arguing with some local talk radio host about it at the time.

But, by all means, let's cut ties with our only solid ally in the Middle East.

[Martin Eden]

21. Empire and oil

Oil men had their hands all over PNAC.

[Baitball Blogger]

7. Cows are treated better than women in Iraq.

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At least cows aren't forced to copulate with them.

[eppur_se_muova]

9. Iraq, not Iran. I had to read it three times before I realized that.

This is what you would expect in Iran, not in a country the US fought to liberate from a dictatorship.

[Baitball Blogger]

11. Thank you for the correction.

[Igel]

40. Iranian influence.

Don't have to be the country to be a de facto satrapy of the country.

[SomewhereInTheMiddle]

48. Damn! I did the same thing. N/t

[surfered]

8. I didn't know Iranian leaders were Republicans, too.

[eppur_se_muova]

10. Iraqi, not Iranian. nt

[surfered]

37. Thanks for the correction. It just sounded like something Iran would do.

[Sugarmaggie]

13. Mike Moon US intro bill for 12 yr legal marrage

We got same degenerates in our “house”. Don’t know if he’s still a rep.


https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article274244525.html

[whathehell]

28. Yes, and how did that work out?.

If we do have "the same" degenerates here, clearly we don't have the same number.

[CousinIT]

15. That is not "marriage". It is child enslavement and pedophilia. N/t

[Hope22]

16. Coming to a US County near you!

Every crazy thing they do our crazies lick their lips and dream. I predict mass suicide events with their women and their girls finding peace. It does not bode well for American women. Nine? Why bother waiting? Where Iraq goes our sickness follows.

[jimfields33]

20. Why would you say that? Where do you get Muslims coming here are going to want this?

[Hope22]

23. Have you checked out the status of US women lately!

Our white men did that to us. Our voices have been stifled. I sure as #ell was not insinuating what you suggest!

[jimfields33]

25. Try rereading the thread and then your post.

[Hope22]

34. I'm certain your rudeness is against the rules out here. ......n/t

[jimfields33]

38. Please reread the thread.

[getagrip_already]

27. Who said anything about muslims?

This is christian doctrine also.

And mormon.

Dont be shocked as laws banning child marriage begin to disapear.

[Hope22]

35. It's really scary that people out here have to be educated on this!

It’s almost as though they didn’t get the news Tuesday!

[ShazzieB]

39. I don't think Hope22 was talking about Muslims doing that here.

I feel quite certain that she was talking about a certain type of fundamentalist Christian, white American men.

[whathehell]

30. Not so much.

We may be deeply disappointed in ourselves right now, but hyperbole isn't helpful. Iraqi culture isn't a harbinger for us, and 9 year old marriage isn't happening.

[Hope22]

31. There are a lot of things happening now that we never would have dreamed of even ten years ago.

When the Epstein files open you may be surprised. Yes…that’s not marriage…but T and his friends will never give up their delicacies. The point is without power over our bodies and voices that are heard, really just anything is possible! As far as I can see the Christian’s, especially those in the rural areas here are not far behind the those that we are speaking of.

It’s OK for me to speak an opinion. Just saying! In reference don’t get me started on my sister in law…1977 southeast Ohio, burped out six babies in eight years. She had no voice as the church, god and her husband spoke for her. When she couldn’t have anymore babies because her body was broken from the abuse, her husband brought a woman home from work saying that he wanted to take a second wife as their church allowed. When he took the additional lady to church with the family and talked to the head honcho about a second wife he was told that second wives cannot come in from outside the church they must already be church members. This is real life back woods Ohio and still exists today! The church then told my sister in law that since her husband had broken a church rule she had the choice of staying with her husband and leaving the church or staying with the church and leaving her husband. That was the one condition they would allow divorce. Over forty years ago…..

[58Sunliner]

18. The psychopaths are in power.

[ratchiweenie]

19. Many old men here would like to see it set at 13 or 14. They believe girls are women by then. At least women enough for

them to really enjoy and control.

[Hope22]

32. I think people would really be surprised to know. N/t

[bluedigger]

22. Thank God we liberated them.

Makes it all worthwhile.

[Aristus]

24. We're next.

[Hope22]

33. I just got hammered for saying that upstream.

I guess that Election Tuesday hasn’t sunk in for some of us!

[ratchiweenie]

41. I think many people aren't aware of just how sick these old white southern men are.

[Hope22]

42. It's true.

Even those up north. I had two sisters and we were born close together in age. Once a year my dad’s brother would visit and we girls would be huddled behind mom and dad when we would have to say hello to uncle. That man would nibble on our ears and hug and kiss on us. We would run away as each gained freedom from this disgusting greeting! Our parents were right there and never said a thing! Twenty years later he went to federal prison for sexually molesting and god knows what, our cousin. Children have a very rough road to travel in this country and it’s getting worse. My heart goes out to all of them.

[Easterncedar]

26. Do something!

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Consider supporting Women Living Under Muslim Law.
www.wluml.org

This is a horror.

[Hope22]

43. Thank for posting this.

You are seen and heard. 💗💗🙏🏼

[Easterncedar]

46. Thank you

Homa Hoodfar, the Canadian-Iranian anthropologist who was imprisoned for a time in Evin, is one of the founders of WLUML. She is a tireless activist and a hero of mine, and I am proud to know her.

[Turbineguy]

29. How republican of them.

[Solly Mack]

36. Damn

[TBF]

47. "As well as bringing down the legal marriage age, the amendment would also

remove women’s rights to divorce, child custody and inheritance."

Coming soon to a red state near you. I need to get the hell out of Texas.

[Runningdawg]

51. While our new leadership believes no consent is necessary at any age. Just grab 'em

[BigMin28]

52. Billions of dollars

Spent during the Iraq War for defending America and democracy. All lies cheered on by the media. Since I woke up last Wednesday, I have been thinking about the words of Reverend Jeremiah Wright that caused such controversy and was used against President Obama's during his administration. I went back and read those words. The good Reverend was correct. America 's chickens are coming home to roost. In so many ways