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milestogo

(19,861 posts)
Mon Feb 10, 2025, 06:09 PM Feb 10

Air traffic controller shortages are a nationwide problem

A huge share of the country's air traffic control facilities are understaffed, per a recent FAA report.

Why it matters: January's mid-air collision between a passenger jet and a U.S. Army helicopter is bringing fresh attention to the staffing shortages, which are a longstanding problem. It's unclear if such shortages played a role in the incident, which claimed 67 lives, yet investigators will surely consider that potential. Driving the news: The nation's airport control towers and approach/departure facilities had 7,047 certified controllers as of September 2023. That's nearly 2,000 short of an 8,966-controller goal set jointly by the FAA and the air traffic controllers' union. En route facilities, which control broad swaths of mostly high-altitude airspace, had 4,531 controllers — 1,136 shy of their goal.

Stunning stat: Of 313 total FAA facilities included in the report, only 23 met or exceeded their staffing goal.

How it works: The staffing numbers come from the FAA's 2024-2033 air traffic controller workforce plan, and include both fully certified controllers and recently transferred controllers who are certified but learning the ins-and-outs of a new facility. Controllers in training who have not yet been fully certified are not included.

The intrigue: The FAA report was unavailable on the agency's website as of early February — perhaps swept up in a broader purge of government data tied to an executive order from President Trump. Axios obtained it using the Wayback Machine, a service that archives websites and documents posted online. At least part of the full report appears to be back online as of Feb. 7. The FAA did not return Axios' request for comment.

Zoom in: Staffing shortages are especially pronounced at certain FAA facilities, some of which manage hugely critical airspace. The New York TRACON, for instance — which controls aircraft coming into and out of the busy New York City area — had 146 certified controllers as of September 2023, compared to a goal of 226. The FAA has since shifted responsibility for the Newark area to a similar facility in Philadelphia, in a bid to address staffing issues that has not shown clear success.

The latest: In the wake of January's disaster, President Trump called for sweeping air traffic control overhauls, and Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy welcomed Elon Musk's DOGE team to take a look under the hood.

https://www.axios.com/2025/02/10/air-traffic-controller-shortages

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Air traffic controller shortages are a nationwide problem (Original Post) milestogo Feb 10 OP
Yup. I will never get on a fucking plane again. SheltieLover Feb 10 #1
I love that our know-nothing secretary of transportation is looking to Musk milestogo Feb 10 #2
Sickening, to put it mildly. SheltieLover Feb 10 #3
Driving is substantially more hazardous than flying MichMan Feb 10 #4
It used to be. SheltieLover Feb 10 #5
Not even close .. MichMan Feb 10 #7
Ok, but if I feel something isn't right, I'm stuck if on a plane. SheltieLover Feb 10 #9
How are you, SheltieLover? C0RI0LANUS Feb 11 #10
Hi SheltieLover Feb 11 #11
Statistically, flying commercial is tremendously safe PJMcK Feb 10 #6
So is riding a skateboard on an interstate highway MichMan Feb 10 #8

milestogo

(19,861 posts)
2. I love that our know-nothing secretary of transportation is looking to Musk
Mon Feb 10, 2025, 06:21 PM
Feb 10

for advice. And Musk will say "fire them all - I will implement AI".

MichMan

(14,483 posts)
7. Not even close ..
Mon Feb 10, 2025, 06:57 PM
Feb 10

Latest data I could find

Airplanes. 0.003 deaths per hundred million miles

Cars and Trucks. 0.57 deaths per hundred million miles

https://usafacts.org/articles/is-flying-safer-than-driving/

SheltieLover

(64,452 posts)
9. Ok, but if I feel something isn't right, I'm stuck if on a plane.
Mon Feb 10, 2025, 07:01 PM
Feb 10

Between Boeing's greed fest & eloon's mess I will never get on a plane again.

Thx for the info, though.

C0RI0LANUS

(3,015 posts)
10. How are you, SheltieLover?
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 12:24 AM
Feb 11

Two planes sit on the runway at Scottsdale Airport after the incident. (Image: KNXV)

One person was killed and others were injured when private jets collided Monday afternoon at the Scottsdale Airport in Arizona. A midsize business jet hit another midsize business jet that was parked on private property. One jet veered off the runway and collided with the Gulfstream 200 jet that was parked. It appeared that the primary landing gear of the arriving jet failed, resulting in the collision.

On top of this, the FAA is suffering from a shortage of Air Traffic Controllers. Felon Musk, DOGE, and Artificial Intelligence (AI) will certainly fix this problem.

Sources:

https://apnews.com/article/arizona-private-jet-crash-scottsdale-airport-b3d54b61cda17a21c76a994a1b4eaf1d


https://www.axios.com/2025/02/10/air-traffic-controller-shortages

SheltieLover

(64,452 posts)
11. Hi
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 12:45 AM
Feb 11

Yes, I saw this in the news.

We"ve had 3 in-air crashes involving 5 aircraft, & several ground accidents in what 10 or 11 days, this being the worst.

Not likely to improve anytime soon with ruskie assets set to destroy our country.

PJMcK

(23,368 posts)
6. Statistically, flying commercial is tremendously safe
Mon Feb 10, 2025, 06:54 PM
Feb 10

Unless your plane crashes.

Thanks, Trump.

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