Weinstein protected by Lorne Michaels.

[Laffy Kat]

Just read on Decider that Lorne Michaels cut all jokes about Weinstein on last week's SNL. When asked why, he said, "It's a New York thing." This is what I mean by Weinstein having power over ALL media. These men look out for each other. On another coast Quentin Tarantino was asked about Weinstein (a close friend) and he said, "You have to take the good with the bad." It is going to take so much longer for change. Hopefully this is a beginning.

https://decider.com/2017/10/09/saturday-night-live-harvey-weinstein-lorne-michaels/

[whathehell]

1. "You have to take the good with the bad"?

Actually, you don't, and since Quentin's a man, it's unlikely HE ever had to take Weinstein's kind of "bad".

[Laffy Kat]

3. I know. QT is no angel either.

It kills me because I really like his movies.

[whathehell]

5. I'd believe it.

Hollywood men --producers, directors, etc -- have always had a sleazy reputation.

As for Tarantino, I've always disliked his films, so it doesn't bother me bit.

[Laffy Kat]

7. You know, I didn't like them for a long time.

And then I watched some interviews on YouTube with a very young QT and I suddenly felt like I "got" where he was coming from. Can't exactly explain it, but I watched them again with a different perspective and started to like them. I actually looked forward to "Hateful 8". But believe me, I understand not liking them.

[spooky3]

6. Translation: I have to take the good with you taking the bad.

[whathehell]

8. Exactly!

"you will take the bad, so I can take the good". It reeks of male entitlement.

[whathehell]

2. That does not sound good..

What?..New Yorkers are sacrosanct?

[Laffy Kat]

4. He's going to have to do some s'plaining.

Have a feeling the women on the show and many of the writers don't appreciate his actions/comments. Wonder what next Saturday is going to look like?

[whathehell]

9. Yes, I would think so..

[GetRidOfThem]

10. What really bothers me is the current breakdown of the social contract

We are, or at least were, at the point wheresuch behavior is so unacceptable that it was criminalized. Now it all falls under "locker room bantor". It is a complete, and unacceptable, breakdown of social norms we have come to adapt over many years of sweat and progress.

[Laffy Kat]

11. At least it's coming to the surface.

Women and progressive men are beginning to call these apes out. And most importantly, women are uniting and using our own power of numbers to insist on accountability. It's always been there under a "boys will be boys" guise.

[HopeAgain]

12. White male privilege on the left

So much worse than on the right because of the hypocracy.

[PJMcK]

14. Hypocrisy is an equal-opportunity sin

I respectfully disagree that one is worse than the other. Republican hypocrisy is just as bad as that behavior by Democrats.

[whathehell]

15. In these cases, the privilege seems more "male" than "white"

The cases of Mike Tyson, Bill Cosby, and the sex abuse allegations against a number of wealthy athletes of color seems to suggest that.

[PJMcK]

13. Michael's quote is out of context

Harvey Weinstein is a pig and it's all good that he's being skewered and investigated and fired.

But Lorne Michael's comment that "It's a New York thing" is being used out of context. This paragraph from the linked article explains:

The NYT story, however, puts Michaels’ comments in a different light. Apparently we’re all interpreting the word “it” wrong. “It’s a New York thing” doesn’t mean that SNL is respecting Weinstein because he’s from New York, it means that the whole story is too insular and coastal and wouldn’t play in the rest of the country with people who have never heard of Harvey Weinstein.

Weinstein is not particularly well-known outside of the entertainment business. The average person doesn't know who he is. Here's an example: Do you know who Scott Rudin is? (He's an incredibly successful movie and theater producer.) If I made a joke about Mr. Rudin, it would likely not make sense if you don't know who he is.

The SNL jokes fell flat during the rehearsal probably because of two reasons. One, the story had only just broken and hadn't built up enough public knowledge to be understandable. Two, after all of the sexual predation stories in the past several years, what new jokes could there be? After Cosby, O'Reilly, Weiner, Trump and all the others, that particular well of humor must be pretty dry.

A third reason SNL cut the jokes could be simply that they weren't funny. After all, much of SNL isn't that clever or funny.

There are serious issues in this story and Weinstein is going to be under a legal microscope for years to come. He's probably finished in the film business. Saturday Night Live's choice of targets for its humor seems relatively unimportant when compared to the larger issues facing our society.

[whathehell]

16. Not sure about that...Seems like a hasty attempt at "clean up" on his part

Since the story is clearly national, and not limited to "local" New York interest, this explanation seems especially lame.

[ThoughtProvoker]

17. Well Then.....

Mr. Michaels must go, too.

Enablers aren't quite as guilty as those they enable, but they're not far behind.