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unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 05:28 AM Jul 2014

‘Sovereign citizens’ get 10 years for duping debtors with phony federal treasury scheme

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/21/sovereign-citizens-get-10-years-for-duping-debtors-with-phony-federal-treasury-scheme/

‘Sovereign citizens’ get 10 years for duping debtors with phony federal treasury scheme
By Travis Gettys
Monday, July 21, 2014 15:06 EDT

Three “sovereign citizens” from South Carolina were sentenced to 10 years in federal prison for their roles in a bogus debt-elimination scheme.

James Dew, Jerry Hartsoe, and Mark Shannon were each convicted in April on eight counts of mail fraud in connection with their Eden Gifted Properties, which offered to pay clients’ debts – for a fee – using phony government documents.

A fourth man, Ronald Kevin Hayes, pleaded guilty in January to failing to report a felony to authorities.

The FBI launched an investigation of the company, which also used the name “Hakanumatata For All,” after several banks complained about packets containing more than 50 elaborately titled but ultimately meaningless legal documents.
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‘Sovereign citizens’ get 10 years for duping debtors with phony federal treasury scheme (Original Post) unhappycamper Jul 2014 OP
Just to get their reasoning straight... DetlefK Jul 2014 #1
Sovereign citizen groups are dangerous and crazy Gothmog Jul 2014 #2

DetlefK

(16,479 posts)
1. Just to get their reasoning straight...
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 05:50 AM
Jul 2014

They believe that every US-citizen owns a part of the US-treasury (because the US-government supposedly uses its citizens as collateral) and they can tap into their portion with the right paperwork?
And at the same time, this would free them from obeying US-law?

Gothmog

(155,055 posts)
2. Sovereign citizen groups are dangerous and crazy
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 06:46 AM
Jul 2014

The ADL has a good course on what to watch out for with these idiots

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