Despite warning from NRA, Wyoming Senate guts immunity provision in 'stand your ground' bill

[TexasTowelie]

CHEYENNE — The Wyoming Senate gutted a so-called “stand your ground” bill that sought to provide initial immunity from arrest and prosecution for assault or murder to anyone who claimed self-defense.

In a contentious vote Tuesday, the Senate removed the immunity provision and brought the measure inline with current Wyoming law, which allows individuals to use force in self-defense but only if doing so is reasonable. Prosecutors may still bring charges against someone who claims to have acted in self-defense if law enforcement believes the more reasonable option would have been to retreat or de-escalate the situation.

“It’s very, very close to what Wyoming law is now,” Sen. Drew Perkins, R-Casper, said of the amended bill. “You have the obligation to do as a reasonable man would.”

The original measure would have stated that individuals never had a duty to retreat when feeling threatened, even if a jury or prosecutor believed that doing so would have been the best option. Police would have been prohibited from arresting or detaining anyone who had acted in self-defense. The Wyoming Association of Sheriffs and Chiefs of Police came out in opposition to that provision, noting it would be difficult for an officer to determine in the heat of the moment whether a suspect was legitimately defending him or herself.

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[gejohnston]

1. Wyoming is one of the few duty to retreat states

and as usual, the media screwed up the reporting on legal issues. The Trib's description is completely screwed up. The reasonable person standard always applies.

The original measure would have stated that individuals never had a duty to retreat when feeling threatened, even if a jury or prosecutor believed that doing so would have been the best option.

That is SYG, which all but a few states use as a standard. Most countries in the world are also SYG, including UK (since at least 1966).

Normally, immunity means civil immunity if acquitted and proven to be self-defense. Our current DTR common law has this.
Since SYG applies to federal jurisdictions, a good chunk of the state is SYG.

[Hoyt]

2. Why do pro-gun people spend so much time studying when one can blast away?

[gejohnston]

3. I just find obscure legal and historical issues fascinating

and when I need to be well informed on any issue, I look up the actual sources instead of taking the media seriously. That makes me a better-informed voter and debater.
Knowing the law makes you a responsible citizen. An anti-gun person could just as easily need to know if one happens to be in the wrong place/wrong time and have to use pepper spray or whatever.

[Mr.Bill]

4. It's the only way most of them can get an erection. n/t

[keithbvadu2]

5. Stand your ground - first