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2banon

(7,321 posts)
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 03:59 PM Jul 2014

This is weird. I Found a Dead Rat in the Chicken Coop. How did that happen?

Did the hens kill that rat? Is that possible, likely?


I understand how rats enter the coop at night to try and get access to the chicken feed, they've been burrowing/tunnelling their way in and out.. but i do not for the life of me understand how/why a rat would be found dead in the chicken coop yard. It couldn't have been dropped from the sky or tree branches above by a predator, like a hawk or racoon, because there's a "ceiling" made of hardware "cloth", as part of the coop structure.

I'm completely baffled. Anyone have experience with this please weigh in!

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This is weird. I Found a Dead Rat in the Chicken Coop. How did that happen? (Original Post) 2banon Jul 2014 OP
Haven't seen that exactly, but... NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #1
Thanks. That kind of worries me.. 2banon Jul 2014 #2
I wondered about poison. NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #3
Yeah, exactly what I was thinking.. 2banon Jul 2014 #5
Close by neighbor set out rat poison? They don't kill immediately, so it might be possible hlthe2b Jul 2014 #4
You probably have the right answer.. 2banon Jul 2014 #6
A friend of mine has chickens that just roam loose during the day JoeyT Jul 2014 #7
Not a huge rat. I'd say it was about 8 or 9 inches long, roughly. 2banon Jul 2014 #8
Me too sort of aswanson Feb 2016 #9
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Haven't seen that exactly, but...
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 04:07 PM
Jul 2014

...sometimes a critter will just be ill and expire wherever they happen to be.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
2. Thanks. That kind of worries me..
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 04:17 PM
Jul 2014

We don't set out poison for them, we do set out traps, but that hasn't seemed to have made much of an impact, so at night we're careful about removing the feeder from the coop, storing in a covered bin (rat proofed).. found the dead rat this afternoon, body had not "stiffened" yet. I was wearing garden gloves don't know if it was warm or cold. Wondering if those hens killed it.. you think it worked it's way in the coop just to die off there?

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
3. I wondered about poison.
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 04:21 PM
Jul 2014

If hens had killed it, I'd expect that some wounds would be evident, pecked out eyes and the like.

Hens can be defensive, it's certainly possible, but why the rat wasn't swift enough to escape from them is as baffling as anything.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
5. Yeah, exactly what I was thinking..
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 06:28 PM
Jul 2014

I was so grossed out I didn't study the remains too closely, but at a glance I didn't see any evidence of being pecked to death. I bagged it quickly and put in the trash container.. that's when I noticed the body wasn't stiff yet. After disposing it, I tried to figure out how this happened.. Like you said, one would think the rat would escape quite quickly from any attack from the hens. so that's not likely. baffled.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
6. You probably have the right answer..
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 06:37 PM
Jul 2014

that's probably what happened. slow reaction. died in the coop trying to go after chicken feed but not making it.. The cat is very sick. I think she got into something. I have to take her to the vet tomorrow. I've had wait out the holiday weekend to avoid emergency vet hospital expenses. She's not drinking any water, nor eating at all. she struggled to eat one little kibble.

These aren't even my animals. I'm house-sitting my daughter's family's home, while they're away in Holland on holiday. I hope I don't have to give them bad news about any of the critters on their return..

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
7. A friend of mine has chickens that just roam loose during the day
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 08:52 PM
Jul 2014

and I've seen them follow the tractor around the field when we were breaking the ground up chasing down bugs, mice, and small snakes that were stirred up and eating them. They did kill a few mice/small rats that were too big to eat, but they weren't like huge wood rats or anything. So I guess it would sort of depend on how big of a rat it was.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
8. Not a huge rat. I'd say it was about 8 or 9 inches long, roughly.
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 10:24 AM
Jul 2014

I've seen much bigger rats in my day.. not a field mice. It happens that this is an urban situation. Oakland Ca. The back yard borders on a wooded creek that cuts through parts of the flatland area. Lots of racoons, squirrels, even spotted a couple of hawks and falcons in the area preying on the hens when they were chicks. Oh, and naturally tons of rats. What we need are owls!

The hens have to be penned up to keep from both destroying the vegetable garden, which they are wont to do, and from "flying the coop" ending up in a neighbors frying pan, which has happened with one.

Thanks for sharing your story, I had no idea chickens would even go after mice. The rat found in the coop, seemed to be ignored by the hens in this case. I just went to feed them kitchen scraps which they were impatiently waiting for.

I bet the hens in your friends farm are really healthy critters and good layers!

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