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Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumAmerica loves women like Hillary Clinton–as long as they’re not asking for a promotion
Its hard to remember these days, but just a few years ago, everybody loved Hillary Rodham Clinton. When she stepped down as US secretary of state in January 2013 after four years in office, her approval rating stood at what the Wall Street Journal described as an eye-popping 69%. That made her not only the most popular politician in the country, but the second-most popular secretary of state since 1948.
The 2012 Texts from Hillary meme, which featured a sunglasses-clad Clinton scrolling through her Blackberry aboard a military flight to Libya, had given rise to a flood of think pieces hailing her badass cool. The Washington Post wanted president Barack Obama to give vice president Joe Biden the boot and replace him with Clinton. Taking stock of Clintons approval ratings, Nate Silver noted in a 2012 piece for the New York Times that she currently held remarkably high numbers for a politician in an era when many public officials are distrusted or disliked.
How times have changed. The FBI And 67 Percent of Americans Distrust Hillary Clinton, booms a recent headline in the Huffington Post. Clintons favorability ratings currently hover around 40.8%. Bob Woodward complains that there is something unrelaxed about the way she is communicating. Hillarys personality repels me, Walker Bragman writes in Salon.
How can we reconcile the unlikable Democratic presidential candidate of today with the adored politician of recent history? Its simple: Public opinion of Clinton has followed a fixed pattern throughout her career. Her public approval plummets whenever she applies for a new position. Then it soars when she gets the job. The wild difference between the way we talk about Clinton when she campaigns and the way we talk about her when shes in office cant be explained as ordinary political mud-slinging. Rather, the predictable swings of public opinion reveal Americans continued prejudice against women caught in the act of asking for power.
The 2012 Texts from Hillary meme, which featured a sunglasses-clad Clinton scrolling through her Blackberry aboard a military flight to Libya, had given rise to a flood of think pieces hailing her badass cool. The Washington Post wanted president Barack Obama to give vice president Joe Biden the boot and replace him with Clinton. Taking stock of Clintons approval ratings, Nate Silver noted in a 2012 piece for the New York Times that she currently held remarkably high numbers for a politician in an era when many public officials are distrusted or disliked.
How times have changed. The FBI And 67 Percent of Americans Distrust Hillary Clinton, booms a recent headline in the Huffington Post. Clintons favorability ratings currently hover around 40.8%. Bob Woodward complains that there is something unrelaxed about the way she is communicating. Hillarys personality repels me, Walker Bragman writes in Salon.
How can we reconcile the unlikable Democratic presidential candidate of today with the adored politician of recent history? Its simple: Public opinion of Clinton has followed a fixed pattern throughout her career. Her public approval plummets whenever she applies for a new position. Then it soars when she gets the job. The wild difference between the way we talk about Clinton when she campaigns and the way we talk about her when shes in office cant be explained as ordinary political mud-slinging. Rather, the predictable swings of public opinion reveal Americans continued prejudice against women caught in the act of asking for power.
This is a great piece. Much more at link: http://qz.com/624346/america-loves-women-like-hillary-clinton-as-long-as-theyre-not-asking-for-a-promotion/
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America loves women like Hillary Clinton–as long as they’re not asking for a promotion (Original Post)
PeaceNikki
Feb 2016
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My pleasure. I got it from a wonderful lady who I met here many many moons ago.
PeaceNikki
Feb 2016
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DURHAM D
(32,878 posts)1. The quotable quote -
"Her public approval plummets whenever she applies for a new position. Then it soars when she gets the job."
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)2. Afreakingmen.
MADem
(135,425 posts)3. "Know your place!" This shit is right on the mark.
We beg Clinton to run, and then accuse her of feeling entitled to win. Several feminist writers have analyzed the Clinton yo-yo. Melissa McEwan sees a deliberate pattern of humiliation, which involves building (Clinton) up and pressuring her to take on increasingly prominent public challenges, only to immediately turn on her and unleash breathtaking misogyny against her when she steps up to the plate.
If you find this hypothesis unlikely, theres Ann Friedmans explanation: Clinton makes people uncomfortable by succeeding too visibly. Clinton is trapped in the catch-22 of female ambition, Friedman writes: To succeed, she needs to be liked, but to be liked, she needs to temper her success.
It's sad that this is happening in this day and age.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)5. I know, it's true, though.
And so much workplace sexism is so common that it goes unnoticed to men and many women.
It's maddening.
radical noodle
(9,354 posts)4. Bingo!
THIS: ".... the predictable swings of public opinion reveal Americans continued prejudice against women caught in the act of asking for power."
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)6. mmmm hmmm.
This article had me in agreement.
radical noodle
(9,354 posts)7. Great Post! Thanks! eom
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)9. My pleasure. I got it from a wonderful lady who I met here many many moons ago.
all american girl
(1,788 posts)12. nothing else but


and you have the right avatar!!!!!!!
ismnotwasm
(42,566 posts)8. Exactly!
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)10. Jury results were PM'd to me.
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