Remaking men

[Bonobo]

is not the role of women.

Nor is it the role of men to remake women.

That should be the starting point of any conversation between the genders.

[lumberjack_jeff]

1. Fully agreed. n/t

[Behind the Aegis]

2. How do we need to be remade?

I am not trying to start anything, but I am curious as to the reason fro the OP.

[Bonobo]

3. This kind of thing.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125532026

Oh yeah, I know. A MAN made the video. Great, next time I'll post a video by Anita Bryant talking about how women should be remade and just defend it on the basis that a WOMAN made it.

[rrneck]

4. Oh for fuck's sake.

Have people forgotten that there is a sizable body of literature on ethics that didn't need the feminist™ label?

[Bonobo]

5. That's a good point.

The whole thing is so funny.

There is not a single principle that supports the idea of equality for all that I have any problem with.

I am also against murder, rape, abuse in all its forms and other "bad things"

Nothing controversial about decent values or fairness to all. Nothing.

But it is the "an enemy that is keeping us down and the if you do not agree with everything I say, you are IT" attitude that is such whiny, self-victimization shit and so pathetic.

When you act like an asshole, don't be surprised to see people hold their noses.

And the "tone argument" BS is just that too. Of COURSE you should treat people with respect or expect kickback because of the tone of your histrionics. Duh.

Loving your posts lately, rrneck. You seem to be a very logical thinker who argues points well indeed.

[rrneck]

6. Thanks.

I find the topic interesting, but not for the usual reasons.

[nomorenomore08]

7. Personally, I think it's on all of us to "remake" the human race in a better image.

Otherwise I agree, and I gave this a Rec.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

8. I've stated that before elsewhere

The issue comes when one side blames the other more for all the problems we face as a species. The "sides" being marked by religion, race, gender, orientation etc.

[nomorenomore08]

9. True, but you could argue that men historically having nearly all the social and political power

makes us (relatively speaking) more responsible for the shitty condition of our world and our species. Though I wouldn't consider that as meaningful on an individual level, since each of us individually has very little power to change anything.