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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(115,324 posts)
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:23 PM Sep 2021

Ex-Union Teachers Argue Dues Collection Rules Violate 1st Amendment Rights

When Chicago teachers went on strike in 2019, Joanne Troesch, a technology coordinator in the city’s schools, and Ifeoma Nkemdi, a second grade teacher, decided they no longer wanted to be part of the union.

But despite their resignations, the Chicago Public Schools continued to withdraw dues from their paychecks on the union’s behalf. The union argues the deduction was legal because the educators signed a contract in 2017 agreeing to the dues.

Troesch and Nkemdi sued, and now are asking the U.S. Supreme Court to take their case. Troesch v. Chicago Teachers Union asks whether signing a membership contract sufficiently authorizes unions to continue collecting the money. The plaintiffs argue that states are denying employees’ rights with so-called “escape periods” — windows of time, ranging from 10 to 30 days, in which employees can opt out.

If employees miss that window — which National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation attorney William Messenger described as a “mandatory subscription service” — unions continue to collect the dues.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ex-union-teachers-argue-dues-160100204.html

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Ex-Union Teachers Argue Dues Collection Rules Violate 1st Amendment Rights (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 OP
Fair share fees should apply anyway JT45242 Sep 2021 #1
It seems like they enjoy the benefits of union membership but don't want to pay to get them. alwaysinasnit Sep 2021 #2
Going directly to the Supremes, huh? That sweet, sweet shadow docket will fix it right up. hedda_foil Sep 2021 #3
non members should not get any union benefits like raises, health care, retirement, etc nt msongs Sep 2021 #4
These are the same teachers who BigmanPigman Sep 2021 #5

JT45242

(2,901 posts)
1. Fair share fees should apply anyway
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:33 PM
Sep 2021

In many states, unions can collect'fair share' amounts from nonmember staff who benefit from the collective bargaining agreement.

It is a little less than full dues which usually add some professional liability insurance and see money for lobbying efforts for teachers


I hated those opt out asshats when I was a union negotiator. They got the same raise and benefits as the rest of us, but didn't want to pay their fair share.

That was one of the pieces of the antiteacher union laws in red states about ten years ago. They wanted to ban fair share.

BigmanPigman

(52,259 posts)
5. These are the same teachers who
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 05:42 PM
Sep 2021

don't complain about the union when they get a raise, have health insur, have a dispute settled, etc. I was the union rep at my school site and it was very frustrating dealing with some of the teachers. Usually the younger teachers were the ignorant ones.

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