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Warpy

(113,130 posts)
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 01:59 PM Mar 2024

Ukrainian Tanks CROSSED RUSSIAN BORDER! 3 Russian Villages Liberated! Ukraine War Update



Tanks were Ukrainian made, the modern T80 and modified T54 (Ukraine never made the deathtrap T72) and the force was composed of Russian fighters. Ukraine has been trustworthy, no NATO weapons or soldiers have crossed their borders into Russia.

Southern Russia is being treated to sirens and explosions. This is a propaganda blow as video is posted to Telegram and it takes days for the FSB to locate all of it and get it deleted.
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Ukrainian Tanks CROSSED RUSSIAN BORDER! 3 Russian Villages Liberated! Ukraine War Update (Original Post) Warpy Mar 2024 OP
Take Russian lands away from Putie as war reparations. magicarpet Mar 2024 #1
Belgorod Oblast was once part of Ukraine Warpy Mar 2024 #3
War reparations makes sense, but a land grab will backfire Bucky Mar 2024 #4
K&R 2naSalit Mar 2024 #2

Warpy

(113,130 posts)
3. Belgorod Oblast was once part of Ukraine
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 02:51 PM
Mar 2024

but I don't want to see anyone taking land, it will only set up the next war if they do.

This whole thing is to clean Russia's clock to the point they are forced to honor the Budapest Memorandum, a treaty signed in which Ukrain (then the third largest nuclear power) returned their nuclear weapons to Russia in exchange for a guarantee of secure borders. Putin decided he didn't like that, he wants to expand the Empire west while he utterly ignores the massive empire he has in Asia. He's a dangerous fool.

Mutual pledges of border security were meant to stop wars over land, important because such wars tend to extend far beyond the original belligerents into regional or even world wars.

That's why any land grab should be off anyone's table. Plebiscites that are not run by Russia at the point of a gun can alter borders. Conquest should never be allowed.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
4. War reparations makes sense, but a land grab will backfire
Wed Mar 13, 2024, 08:19 PM
Mar 2024

Russia is this century's Germany. Handle with Care!!!

Any reparations should be tied directly to damage done to Ukraine.

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