Neoma just terminated laconicsax and me as co-hosts.

[redqueen]

This discussion thread was locked by Neoma (a host of the Feminists group).

Just FYI.

[Neoma]

1. Reason why, up top.

[seabeyond]

2. was this an unilateral decision? i thought you said absolutely NO unilateral decision making

from any of us?

[Violet_Crumble]

7. Fuck this. I'm heading off to the other group

I have a massive problem with the abuse of power that remaining host has displayed. And I thought Labor party factions were ruthless in their quest for power. They've got nothing on this!

[seabeyond]

8. .

[Ruby the Liberal]

15. Because thats easier than being part of the solution.

[seabeyond]

16. no one who USES the forum want neoma. all you outside of the forum cheer, and feed the frenzy

because it is a fun game for you all.

the people that USE the forum do not trust or want neoma as a host.

you are outside the forum. you dont use the forum. you dont know the forum. yet you come in here and tell us what we need to do.

[Lisa D]

21. No one?

I haven't said whether I want Neoma to stay or go and I use this forum. Seabeyond, here is the problem when people say they feel unwelcome here. Anyone who may disagree with the hosts and some members are too often branded as outsiders, trolls and disruptors.

I know you probably mean well, but you can't say that "no one who uses the forum wants Neoma" unless you've actually polled the members who subscribe to this forum, which numbered around 100 people before all this shitstorm started.

You know, I didn't post much on DU 2 because I worked two jobs and didn't want to post when I wouldn't have time to respond. But, for years, I read the Feminist group every morning before I left for work and truly enjoyed it. I was a "user" of this forum. I didn't feel like an outsider, but I guess, according to some here, that's what I am.

[snooper2]

24. I've been reading all of this and I see 4 people that all are hating on her

Her OP late last night was very reasoned..

I think everyone should just forget the fact a "host" exists and go about talking about what you talk about.

Then the drama will die down..and y'all can see how it goes!

[LiberalAndProud]

37. There are many who would use the forum if it were not so exclusive.

I unsubscribed from the group several weeks ago.

Clearly I didn't belong.

[Scout]

38. so you chose to leave. did someone ask you to leave? did anyone force you to leave?

No? thought not.

[LiberalAndProud]

40. Of course not.

You're right. I chose to leave. I don't think I'm the only one who found the forum unwelcoming. This group has been exclusive for a while now. I'm all for allowing it to continue in the same vein. Enjoy.

[Violet_Crumble]

20. Oh, don't worry. I'm staying right here till Neoma blocks me for daring to disagree with her...

I was just trying out the saying something and doing something completely different thing that neoma does when it comes to unilateral decisions...

As this is yr first time appearing in this group, welcome,. and if you read threads from the past few days, a solution was being worked out. It was one that Neoma didn't like, so she's sacked the co-hosts we'd elected...

[laconicsax]

3. And CrispyQ and seabeyond.

She's declared herself President-for-life, so to speak.

[seabeyond]

4. yup. i guess that means consulting others dont matter anymore. nt

[DonCoquixote]

5. Bad Move

The whole group was weeping because redqueen was ready to leave, and now you FIRE HER?

[Violet_Crumble]

6. This is a massive abuse of hosting powers

So much for democracy and members mattering. This is so wrong.

Neoma. You've ignored hosts and members and I'm betting you'll lock any dissent to yr rule but you need to reinstate the hosts right now

[stockholmer]

9. I got drug into this nightmare as a juror (I am a GD, Video, LBN, & Econ only poster) and I must say

that the damage and drama I have seen in 2 days is so so sad for all involved. What point is there to have a safe zone group for feminists if women and men here just rip each other to shreds?

That said, from what I gather, the new lead host has went on a perceived power binge and banned any dissent (as well as people) and locked threads that point to this. I also see a huge trust broken by sharing private messages.

You need to hold elections ASAP to sort this. If not, the DU site admins need to step in soon.

If I'm wrong, then flame on, as I have said my part.

I wish all involved well, and hope no more hurt and pain comes to a single person in here. The world is not a friendly place these days, and feminist ideology/perspective is a vital need for the world. This is not the way to facilitate this goal.

[seabeyond]

10. we did have a vote. all members that use this forum has voted redqueen. no one who uses this forum

has voted neoma.

they say we were trying to do a coup. with election. where as taking over with no votes is honorable.

this is what du has given us for a week now.

[stockholmer]

12. well, if a vote is now considered a coup d' etat, perhaps the foundational DU rules need to be

revisited. You certainly have my support. This is about a fair outcome and process, and I see neither remotely appearing.

Your group is dying, and that can not be allowed to stand.

cheers

[seabeyond]

13. she did a lotta lotta damage, that is for sure. appalling. thank you. nt

[BlueIris]

11. First, thank you for your sane, supportive comments.

I am interested to read the perspectives of those who do not regularly post here.

Second...I agree completely with your post. I think the worst thing about this is how much personally hurtful behavior has been involved.

I think I am about done. Just totally and completely...done.

[Ruby the Liberal]

18. "I am interested to read the perspectives of those who do not regularly post here."

That is a refreshing perspective, BlueIris - thank you.

[laconicsax]

14. There were two threads about who the group wanted as hosts, Neoma locked both of them.

There's not much chance of elections when the person in power locks threads on the subject.

[Ruby the Liberal]

17. The purpose is reinforcing stereotypes in order to keep the plebes in line.

And until admin addresses the toxicity, it will continue as nothing else can stop the toxicity.

[stockholmer]

19. this also sets a bad precedent for other groups in DU as well

I know it is not the right thing to say, but I REALLY miss the wholistic community (even the pain in the arses that just were part of the territory as well) that was on DU2. So many good people seemed to have just went 'poof'. A shame all around.

Plus I am a 14 month noob here (and a Swedish interloper too, as I have been told several times, lolol). I can imagine how some 10 year plus posters must feel.

I will defo keep coming back here in hopes of seeing this all smoothed out.

[efhmc]

36. This is my 10th year.

I find nothing better about the "new"DU. Others in my family, to whom I introduced the site, agree. I have not been involved in this particular disagreement but am sad to find things here so much in disarray.

[seabeyond]

22. you are participating in a feeding frenzy for the entertainment value, and you have the audacity

to tell us about the toxicity?

[snooper2]

23. (laconicsax and me) should be (laconicsax and I) FYI

[redqueen]

25. Try this:

Neoma just terminated I.

Does that sound right?

No?

No, it doesn't. Do you know why that is? Because it's wrong, yes, that's what it is.

Do you have it all figured out now? Did that help?



Oh, and thanks for your newfound interest in this forum.

[snooper2]

26. That's a different sentence

Yep, this forum is pretty cool.. If everybody would chill out and smoke a joint would be a lot better though

[redqueen]

27. This forum was cool.

Now it's kinda uncomfortable for those of us who have been participating it for the intended purpose (i.e. not flamewars).

And yes, it is a different sentence, but what we're talking about is usage. That's all the help you get from me, just go look it up, I wouldn't want you to embarrassingly attempt to correct anyone else on that particular issue.

[snooper2]

29. Looks like it is supposed to be me..That just never sounds right...

Doesn't sound as formal..

I guess I'm used to people alwasy saying -

Me and Jason , Me and Shirley

When it should be Jason and I , Shirley and I-

Oh well, that's why I'm an Engineer not an English teacher LOL


I don't get embarrased from mistakes on a Public Intertubes Message board LOL, or by what anybody does or says. That would just be pathetic

[ScreamingMeemie]

32. That's good...

...because you spelled embarrassed incorrectly as well.

[snooper2]

35. LOL...There's a reason the count the errors

when doing tests for typing speed...

[redqueen]

33. Good for you. nt

[MadrasT]

34. I always thought it doesn't sound right, either...

...even though it is.

[efhmc]

39. You, of course, are correct. Doesn't anyone teach nominative and objective

cases anymore? Saw a "Cheers" episode ages ago where the self-appointed intellectual character, Diane, continually used "I' when "me' was the correct pronoun. I'm sure the writers thought this would show how high brow she was.

http://www.growingwithgrammar.com/files/1GWG_7_Sample_Lessons2.pdf


There are many more important things in life to be concerned about but this one can be easily remedied .

[MadrasT]

28. Actually, "laconicsax and me" is correct n/t

[Scout]

30. just FYI, you are wrong. n/t

[snooper2]

31. Yep, I need to go back to school LOL

At least everybody's mind was on something else for a moment

[JTFrog]

41. More fail. n/t

[snooper2]

42. Failure is good, unless you repeat the same failures over and over..

That is when one is deemed stupid-

You ever fail at anything? What trade are you in?