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Doodley

(10,444 posts)
1. Old home remedies that cost very little, like baking soda, work. Drug companies want to
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 07:02 PM
Dec 2019

scam us by keeping that fact from us.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. I'd buy the generic Prilosec and bicarbonate. $25 a month, or so. Doubt they sell
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 07:04 PM
Dec 2019

much. Most insurance companies don’t cover junk like that.

mahina

(18,951 posts)
5. Wow
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 07:33 PM
Dec 2019

Sauerkraut works for me. Grandma said all those antacids don’t help. It’s not too much acid, it’s too little. Idk but works for us.

emmaverybo

(8,147 posts)
6. Prilosec actually can heal lesions. It is true bicarbonate and cider can work and quickly. Just not
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 07:58 PM
Dec 2019

enough real medicine for those of us with serious GERD caused by hiatal hernias and at risk of Barrett’s esophagus (can be risk factor for cancer of esophagus) or who have been diagnosed with.

We have to be monitored by scoping and may have to take prescription Prilosec or other drugs the rest of our lives, despite side effects. Lifestyle changes can help and some are candidates for surgery.

I am happy though that Bragg’s or baking soda and some otc help in a pinch and for some are like a miracle for occasional bouts. I am very lucky that medicine discovered Prilosec.

Anyone having to live on tums, prescribe themselves prilo on a regular basis—if you have Med insurance, see a GE and get an endoscopy.

emmaverybo

(8,147 posts)
14. Well, gives me hope. My GE believed it can go into remission, and mine appeared to. Two scopes
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 09:46 PM
Dec 2019

BE free and this last one BE. Some Med professionals believe that some scopes just miss the BE and there is no “remission.” Anyhoo, if I stick to the omneprazole regime and a bit of OTC as allowed I am mostly not symptomatic, though with enough BE carpeting over the nerv3 endings one can feel no pain. I just stick to the screening schedule.

Good news is that a very low percentage, less than once thought, of BE folks progress to EC.

So we stay good, ok?

safeinOhio

(34,113 posts)
16. During that time I've had
Mon Dec 30, 2019, 03:22 AM
Dec 2019

3 friends die from Esophageal Cancer. I get a scope and biopsy every 3 years.

emmaverybo

(8,147 posts)
17. I am so sorry. My friend's death made me finally keep my first scope appointment, and now, like
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 01:33 PM
Jan 2020

you, every three years.

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
7. BEWARE: Prilosec (omeprazole) gave me terrible joint pain after a few years
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 07:59 PM
Dec 2019

I've weaned off of it now, and the pain is subsiding, but it's a less-common side-effect to watch out for.

Grasswire2

(13,712 posts)
10. prilosec is bad for you anyway
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 08:46 PM
Dec 2019

It's a proton pump inhibitor and only meant for very short term use. It can cause esophageal cancer.

emmaverybo

(8,147 posts)
18. No study has shown any link between EC and Prilosec use. Although proton pump inhibitor use is
Wed Jan 1, 2020, 01:54 PM
Jan 2020

safest short-term, it is the best and safer option for some GERD sufferers, when life-style changes
alone do not completely relieve GERD, which is linked to EC, and the surgical option is quite radical. Not all GERD will respond to the surgery to tighten up the valves (as that not the cause in all cases) so then a far more extreme surgery must be undertaken.

There are definitely draw-backs to long-term use. The possibility that long-term use could mask
gastric cancer and other implications mentioned on this article:


https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/by_the_way_doctor_does_long-term_use_of_prilosec_cause_stomach_cancer

crimycarny

(1,627 posts)
11. I buy from Canada
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 09:06 PM
Dec 2019

I have a condition that requires the amount of the drug in my blood levels to remain very consistent. Because of that, I've never trusted generics--the FDA allows 80% to 120% of active ingredient which is too much of a swing. I don't doubt that some (maybe even most) have anywhere close to that range anyway (read: "Bottle of Lies" by Katherine Eban.) The brand name for my drug is $998 a month in the US. I can get the brand name from an online Canadian Pharmacy for $123.62. Supposedly you are only allowed 90 days worth, but this is a gray area that isn't really cracked down on. I found a legit, certified online pharmacy and haven't experienced any issues so far.

Here in the US, there is an online pharmacy, Valisure, that chemically tests all the drugs it sells. This is the online pharmacy that sounded the alarm about NDMA being detected in Zantac. The company was founded by two guys from Yale after one of them suffered complications due to the wrong amount of active ingredient in his anti-convulsant medication. I haven't tried them yet, but if I'm no longer able to purchase my prescription from Canada I plan to try their chemically tested generic version. (They don't make the drugs, it's the same suppliers as all pharmacies, but they crush up and test all batches for accuracy and quality before selling).

Something needs to happen here in the US to make drugs more affordable, and generics aren't the answer due to quality concerns.


TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)
12. The OTC version is cheap.
Sun Dec 29, 2019, 09:10 PM
Dec 2019

Here's 42 for $21:

https://www.amazon.com/Zegerid-Heartburn-Inhibitor-Omeprazole-Bicarbonate/dp/B0033AGVBG

It's a serious abuse of the system and intended to fleece insurance companies, because cash or copay consumers rarely (if ever) pay the full price. Consumers often wouldn't have any clue how much it's costing their insurance. Of course, it jacks up insurance rates.

Doctors get around the high price of the prescription version by specifically prescribing the generic (when available), suggesting the OTC (when available) or prescribing them separately.

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