Ancestry/Genealogy
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My uncle has been into genealogy for about 25 years, maybe longer, and a few years ago he gave us all CD's of his findings.
I recently had another look at my uncle's research, particularly at the names and dates that were from the 15 and 1600's. I noticed there was a notation next to one of the names - 'Mass USA'. I didn't know we had any relatives connected to the US beside me - I've lived here over 40 years. Anyway, I looked up the name next to the notation and I was rather blown away.
The name was John Tilley and it turns out that John Tilley, along with his wife, daughter and brother were Pilgrims on the Mayflower. They all died the first winter except for the girl. The Tilley's son, Robert stayed behind in England and because Robert's father was a Pilgrim on the Mayflower - I am a Mayflower descended!
I know the English village the Tilley's were born in very well. My family all still live in the same county. All of us have been born within a 12 mile radius for hundreds of years.
My uncle started his research the old fashion way, on foot. He had no idea of the Mayflower connection and when I told him at first he didn't really grasp the significance of it. He understands now.
Thanks to his research, I names, dates and villages going back to the 1500's and even the 1400's and look forward to discovering who else is hiding in the family tree.
GeoWilliam750
(2,540 posts)Got lots of them in my tree, too, although no Mayflower of which I am aware.
Also, by the bye, Like your screen name.
frogmarch
(12,226 posts)and her parents John and Joan (Hurst) Tilley.
John Howland was in his early twenties and Elizabeth 13 when they arrived on the Mayflower. They married four or five years later.
Elizabeth's parents John and Joan Tilley & her aunt and uncle Edward and Agnes Tilley had all died the first winter in the New World, leaving her an orphan.
Through John and Elizabeth I am related to Dubya and his dad, and to Sarah Palin. I am also related to Dubya through a Salem "witch." Cool, huh?
Boudica the Lyoness
(2,899 posts)frogmarch
(12,226 posts)Boudica the Lyoness
(2,899 posts)frogmarch
(12,226 posts)John Howland in this interesting article about him:
http://spyhollywood.com/2-million-americans-trace-roots-to-pilgram-john-howland/
Oh, and look at what else I found a childrens book about him.
http://www.amazon.com/Fell-Mayflower-John-Howlands-Fortune/dp/0763665843
From what Ive gathered on the internets:
Pilgrim John Howland arrived on the Mayflower as an indentured servant but in later years became executive assistant and personal secretary to Governor John Carver. John Howlands true age in 1620 is unknown, but because he signed the Mayflower Compact and helped found Plymouth Colony, he is thought to have been at least 18 years old. Most historians put his age at between 18 and 21 in 1620 so he probably was a young man when he fell overboard, not a boy as the book title says.
EDIT: A cousin who's a genealogist said the photo isn't of our ancestor who fell overboard but of his grandson or great-grandson named John Howland.
OnionPatch
(6,218 posts)Unfortunately, Henry didn't come over until a few years after John. I think I read that Henry came on the Anne ~1623. So I'm not a Mayflower descendent but I am a descendent of Pilgrims. And a distant cousin to you.
dgibby
(9,474 posts)through the Pruddens and the Walkers, but haven't found any Tilleys yet. Since all of my mother's people landed in either New England or Maryland, I'm still looking for Mayflower connections, but haven't found one yet.
historylovr
(1,557 posts)He died the first winter as well.
WolverineDG
(22,298 posts)every now & then I think I find a Mayflower ancestor, but nope. The closest I can get is the Fullers of Redenhall, England. Uncle Fuller & his family were on the ship, my ancestor, a nephew, came a year or so later.
dflprincess
(28,475 posts)I am descended from Edward Fuller who was on the Mayflower and his son, Matthew - who arrived in Plymouth after his parents.
We must be cousins of some kind.
WolverineDG
(22,298 posts)but this is the earliest Fuller I have in my tree: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Fuller-5972
dflprincess
(28,475 posts)1543 - 1614; birth and death are both recorded as Redenhall, Norfolk.
He was the father of Edward (the Mayflower passenger); Robert's son, Samuel, was also on the Mayflower.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)shanti
(21,716 posts)do you watch, "finding your roots", with skip gates? they had neil patrick-harris, who is related to william farrar, one of the earliest virginia immigrants, on a recent show. farrar married a "comely widow", cecily jordan. i'm related to her.
me b zola
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... from whom I am also "eligible" to be a DAR. I should really get all of this documented and officially recognized so that I may pass it on to my grandchildren.
shanti
(21,716 posts)it's already been done by previous ancestors. at least, that's what i've found.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)Some lines are traced back to the people who came over with William Penn.
Canadian Interloper
(37 posts)German-Canadian Lutheran and anti-monarchist.
TuxedoKat
(3,821 posts)He may have a few others as well. I haven't found one for myself yet, keep hoping though someday when I start researching again.
cynannmarie
(113 posts)Stephen was one of the "Strangers" (not the religious "Saints" . He was an adventurer and a truly colorful character. Was the only one in history to have been both at Jamestown and at Plymouth. On the way to Jamestown in 1609 the ship he was on was shipwrecked near Bermuda and the crew stayed there for about 10 months before getting to Jamestown, which was in a very bad state by then. A couple years later Stephen went back to England because he got word that his wife had died there. In 1620 he set out again for the New World on the Mayflower with his new wife and 2 children (Constance and Giles) from 1st marriage and another from the 2nd marriage. His wife gave birth on that wretched ship on the way over, to a child they named Oceanus. Stephen and his wife and children were the only family that survived the devastating first year with no one dying. (Only 4 women made it.) The account of the 1609 shipwreck at Bermuda had gotten back to England and Shakespeare heard of it and used it as the basis for his play "The Tempest", which has a character in it called Stephano.
I have learned so much history in researching my genealogy. It really makes it come alive.
dflprincess
(28,475 posts)I'm descended from Edward Fuller and his wife Anne Hopkins (there is some question about her name). They both died the first year. Their son, Matthew, is my 10th great-grandfather. He arrived in Plymouth after his parents, not sure exactly when but he married his wife, Frances Hannah Lyde, in Plymouth in 1725.
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pipi_k
(21,020 posts)Mr Pipi, who is descended from James Chilton and his wife Susannah.