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babylonsister

(171,610 posts)
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:01 PM Apr 2024

Umami. Who has ever

used this word? I never heard of it until a few years ago afaik.

Umami, which is also known as monosodium glutamate is one of the basic five tastes including sweet, sour, salty, and bitter. Umami means “delicious savory taste” in Japanese, and its taste is often described as the meaty, savory deliciousness that deepens flavor.

It's now used often on cooking shows.

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Umami. Who has ever (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2024 OP
Thx very much BOSSHOG Apr 2024 #1
Don't equate the two. Geechie Apr 2024 #5
Here Here AKwannabe Apr 2024 #15
Umami in my mind means depth of flavor. MontanaMama Apr 2024 #2
Yup dpibel Apr 2024 #3
Umami does NOT equal MSG. Geechie Apr 2024 #4
Don't know where/when I first encountered it, but more than a decade ago. RockRaven Apr 2024 #6
More than just msg has the umami taste. Msg is just the most common umami additive unblock Apr 2024 #7
I use Thai Fish sauce in everything for umami jmbar2 Apr 2024 #8
Thanks so much for that tip. I've been needing babylonsister Apr 2024 #9
Red Boat brand fish sauce is used by a lot of chefs jmbar2 Apr 2024 #12
I first heard it about 15 years ago from Alton Brown's show AZSkiffyGeek Apr 2024 #10
I recommend the movie Umami, peacebuzzard Apr 2024 #11
OK AKwannabe Apr 2024 #16
it was in French. I couldn't turn on subtitles peacebuzzard Apr 2024 #18
Other Umami dem in texas Apr 2024 #13
Red wine is good AKwannabe Apr 2024 #17
I will have to look for that. Was not aware of that condiment. peacebuzzard Apr 2024 #19
I don't know how often it's come up in conversation chowmama Apr 2024 #14

BOSSHOG

(39,854 posts)
1. Thx very much
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:05 PM
Apr 2024

My wife and I scour every store bought food product. If it has MSG it is not welcome in our home. Now we have another word to look for. Gave my wife migraines. Never more.

MontanaMama

(24,023 posts)
2. Umami in my mind means depth of flavor.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:08 PM
Apr 2024

Earthy flavor…Forest floor. Mushrooms. Aged soy sauces. Miso. Maybe even anchovy paste. Anything that gives a dish depth that you might not be able to identify on the front of the palette.

Geechie

(938 posts)
4. Umami does NOT equal MSG.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:13 PM
Apr 2024

Look it up. It means “savory,” simply. Some cooks at MSG to achieve Umami, but it’s not the same thing. Where did the quote in boldface come from?

RockRaven

(16,276 posts)
6. Don't know where/when I first encountered it, but more than a decade ago.
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:17 PM
Apr 2024

On cooking or cooking adjacent shows, yes, primarily there.

I've also run across it in passing in scientific articles about human genomics and glutamate receptors.

unblock

(54,151 posts)
7. More than just msg has the umami taste. Msg is just the most common umami additive
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:20 PM
Apr 2024

Anchovies, tomatoes, mushrooms, fish stock, and others contain glutamates or other amino acids that have the umami taste.

jmbar2

(6,100 posts)
8. I use Thai Fish sauce in everything for umami
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:21 PM
Apr 2024

In very small amounts, fish sauce and sweetened rice wine vinegar wake up the flavor in everything.

Usually about a 1/4 tsp fish sauce and 1 TB seasoned rice wine vinegar in
- spag sauce
- soups
- stews
- salad dressings (some)

You can't taste them in those amounts, but the flavors are much brighter.

babylonsister

(171,610 posts)
9. Thanks so much for that tip. I've been needing
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:27 PM
Apr 2024

some different spices for a change. Fish sauce and sweetened rice wine vinegar are on my list.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,600 posts)
10. I first heard it about 15 years ago from Alton Brown's show
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 09:37 PM
Apr 2024

Mushroom, Parmesan Cheese, soy sauce, carmelized onion, Worcestershire sauce,
Those sort of things have umami. MSG does but you can get it from other places.

peacebuzzard

(5,267 posts)
11. I recommend the movie Umami,
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 10:03 PM
Apr 2024

It does move a little slowly as an emotional drama unfolds for a popular French chef who is somewhat obsessed.
It was in French with no subtitles when I watched It on a flight but I have started eating lots of Chinese noodles since.
Delicious movie.

peacebuzzard

(5,267 posts)
18. it was in French. I couldn't turn on subtitles
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 06:58 AM
Apr 2024

and my college French has had no practice for decades so I just watched the cooking, drama, and scenery. Talk about slow.

just recently the main actor has been charged with an assault. If true, why is it that promising and gifted figures just can't handle being normal?

dem in texas

(2,681 posts)
13. Other Umami
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 11:36 PM
Apr 2024

Balsamic Vinegar - not the type used for salad dressing, use the thick dark balsamic, great to perk-up the flavor of soups and stews.

And the old kitchen stand-by, worstershire sauce.

peacebuzzard

(5,267 posts)
19. I will have to look for that. Was not aware of that condiment.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 07:00 AM
Apr 2024

although when I looked at the sodium content for the vinegar balsamic I started limiting my use.

chowmama

(508 posts)
14. I don't know how often it's come up in conversation
Wed Apr 24, 2024, 08:55 PM
Apr 2024

but I've been aware of it for a while. I think of it as belonging to things that give food a 'meaty' taste. I don't know what causes it, but I assume some type of protein.

Well browned mushrooms. (I don't get a lot from raw mushrooms. but maybe I don't get the right ones.) Well browned eggplant. Both of these also have a sort of meaty texture, as well as taste, so they make a good meat substitute. For flavor, anchovies and anchovy-based sauces like Worcestershire, soy sauces, and such. Most cheeses. Browned tomato paste or sun-drieds.

Anyway, whatever it is, I like it.

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