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Related: About this forumMamdani Identified as Asian and African American on College Application
Posting in the African American forum.By Benjamin RyanNicholas Fandos and Dana Rubinstein
July 3, 2025
As he runs for mayor of New York City, Zohran Mamdani has made his identity as a Muslim immigrant of South Asian descent a key part of his appeal.
But as a high school senior in 2009, Mr. Mamdani, the Democratic nominee, claimed another label when he applied to Columbia University. Asked to identify his race, he checked a box that he was Asian but also Black or African American, according to internal data derived from a hack of Columbia University that was shared with The New York Times.. . . When asked if any of his family had intermarried while in East Africa, he said in the interview on Thursday, Theyre all of Indian origin, from Gujarat.
July 3, 2025
As he runs for mayor of New York City, Zohran Mamdani has made his identity as a Muslim immigrant of South Asian descent a key part of his appeal.
But as a high school senior in 2009, Mr. Mamdani, the Democratic nominee, claimed another label when he applied to Columbia University. Asked to identify his race, he checked a box that he was Asian but also Black or African American, according to internal data derived from a hack of Columbia University that was shared with The New York Times.. . . When asked if any of his family had intermarried while in East Africa, he said in the interview on Thursday, Theyre all of Indian origin, from Gujarat.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/03/nyregion/mamdani-columbia-black-application.html
There's no complexity in a college applications asking for racial identity. Their not asking about geographic birth places. We wouldn't accept white people claiming their part of a tribe because a state they were born in was tribal land.
I'm really tired of having to take theses insults. Same as Musk calling himself African American. Mamdani needs to apologize as he's on his way to lose the black vote in the general like he lost it in the primary.
From this crap to black face. I don't see how these politicians run with this BS in their past. I'm sure it'll be excused.
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Mamdani Identified as Asian and African American on College Application (Original Post)
rogue emissary
Friday
OP
Also, if your not insulted as a black person doesn't mean I'm not insulted.
rogue emissary
Friday
#11
It isnt about who is insulted or not. It is about whether the checking of the box has any significant, material impact
SSJVegeta
Friday
#17
He did not. It was "Black or African American" that he checked. Not black. Dont spread misinformation, please
SSJVegeta
Friday
#16
Mmm...the bigger story is how the NYT got this information and what it did with it.
WhiskeyGrinder
Friday
#4
Right! It's easy to see the pattern in who gets protection and who doesn't.
WhiskeyGrinder
Friday
#14
Lovie777
(19,203 posts)1. And what's the big deal?......................
India is part of Asia, Uganda is part of Africa.
rogue emissary
(3,278 posts)5. Posting in the African American forum.
rogue emissary
(3,278 posts)11. Also, if your not insulted as a black person doesn't mean I'm not insulted.
SSJVegeta
(1,053 posts)17. It isnt about who is insulted or not. It is about whether the checking of the box has any significant, material impact
...on anything. Which it clearly doesnt.
SSJVegeta
(1,053 posts)2. Um... he IS both.

He is Indian heritage from Uganda (which is Africa)
rogue emissary
(3,278 posts)6. Because I was born in Florida. I can claim Seminole as my race?
SSJVegeta
(1,053 posts)9. You are confusing ethnicity with race
AA is an ethnicity not a race. Black is a race.
rogue emissary
(3,278 posts)10. He did this on all his applications.AA and black were listed as race.
SSJVegeta
(1,053 posts)12. AA is not a race...
He did not say he is black
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SSJVegeta
(1,053 posts)16. He did not. It was "Black or African American" that he checked. Not black. Dont spread misinformation, please
If they were interchangeable, both words wouldn't be a selection
IbogaProject
(4,602 posts)18. Backwards
If one was born in Florida they could claim they were American, and if they were born on a Seminole reservation in Florida they could say "they were from Florida". This is a smear campaign being waged by the media who are in the pockets of big financial firms and in the print media Big landlords.
DarthDem
(5,402 posts)3. Not Much of an Attempted Scandal
His parents were each born in India and he was born in Africa. For checking an ambiguous box as a young person, it sounds like he did just fine.
rogue emissary
(3,278 posts)7. He checked the very specific box for race black or African american.
WhiskeyGrinder
(25,233 posts)4. Mmm...the bigger story is how the NYT got this information and what it did with it.
While Mr. Mamdani was not a target of the hack, the information about him was included in a database of millions of student applications to Columbia going back decades. The data was shared with The Times by an intermediary who goes by the name Crémieux on Substack and X and who is an academic and an opponent of affirmative action. The Times agreed to withhold his real name.
Crémieux is Jordan Lasker, a eugenicist "race scientist" who argues that race determine IQ.
rogue emissary
(3,278 posts)8. Using a hack didn't stop them from publishing podesta emails.
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WhiskeyGrinder
(25,233 posts)14. Right! It's easy to see the pattern in who gets protection and who doesn't.